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Originally posted by: alki

can someone please tell me what happend to the challengers?? like rex and amay?

They were eliminated on the final week of the challengers...on that epi the eliminated champion came back and competed with Amey, Rex and Toshi. Finally Toshi and Prajakta made it to the Champion side and the rest were eliminated...

ohh they ended that soon! i thought they would still compete gosh i missed so much in one episode!

Originally posted by: abhilasha2179

it all depends on exactly how many votes each of them get, and how far apart they are in votes.

lets say A gets 80 votes, B gets 77 votes, and C gets 91 votes. B has a higher chance of getting out if he has, lets say, 68 or less votes. A is safe and won't get out. C has a higher chance of getting out if he has only 82 or 82 votes (very close to A)

if C gets much more votes than A, then he will probably not be out. but if it's close and he only gets a few more votes than A, then he may get out. if B gets extremely few votes, then he could be out also; but if he gets barely less than A then he might not be out. A would definitely not be out (if the channel stays true to the 50/50 format).

Sorry, I couldn't make heads or tails of this explanation, especially the bits about "chance" of being eliminated. For any example using numbers, the outcome should be clear. For a different outcome, a different numerical example is needed. Vague talk of "chances" this way or that way, especially without showing the calculation rationale, is not illuminating.

A 50/50 division between judges' scores and audience voting should mean -- I think -- that scores and votes are converted to the same scale. So, for instance, audience voting could be converted to marks out of 30 and added to the judges' scores.

That's the theory, but the point is the practice. Exactly WHAT is the scale used to make judges' scores and audience voting directly comparable on a 50/50 basis?

Or is this left vague -- deliberately! -- so that results can be manipulated to propitiate the TRP gods?

Originally posted by: arayq2

Sorry, I couldn't make heads or tails of this explanation, especially the bits about "chance" of being eliminated. For any example using numbers, the outcome should be clear. For a different outcome, a different numerical example is needed. Vague talk of "chances" this way or that way, especially without showing the calculation rationale, is not illuminating.

A 50/50 division between judges' scores and audience voting should mean -- I think -- that scores and votes are converted to the same scale. So, for instance, audience voting could be converted to marks out of 30 and added to the judges' scores.

That's the theory, but the point is the practice. Exactly WHAT is the scale used to make judges' scores and audience voting directly comparable on a 50/50 basis?

Or is this left vague -- deliberately! -- so that results can be manipulated to propitiate the TRP gods?

sorry about that...my explanation really doesnt make much sense now that i read it again. there will always be the question on whether or not the results were manipulated. but if they're not, then that ^ makes sense. thanks for pointing it out

Originally posted by: abhilasha2179

there will always be the question on whether or not the results were manipulated. but if they're not, then that ^ makes sense. thanks for pointing it out

Well, my question went unanswered:-)

As far as I know, there is no published formula or detailed objective procedure. Only a breezy assertion of 50/50 weighting...

... with no statement of EXACTLY HOW.

Vague rules == manipulated results. This stinks, sorry.

Originally posted by: arayq2

As far as I know, there is no published formula or detailed objective procedure. Only a breezy assertion of 50/50 weighting...

... with no statement of EXACTLY HOW.

Vague rules == manipulated results. This stinks, sorry.

In fact, what happened on Friday 25th April, based on the Saturday 19th April results, was more than a little disturbing. For one thing, Ishmeet had far and away the lowest score (22) but the bottom three were Rooprekha (25), with Debojit(28) and Aishwarya(28). (I assume Prajakta with 27 either was excused or got a whole bunch of sympathy votes.)

And Aishwarya was eliminated.

Was the audience voting imbalance between Ishmeet/Rooprekha on the one hand and Aishwarya on the other really that huge, as to overcome the differentials in the judges' scores (6 and 3) respectively? Never mind the WOW! factor involved, just getting to know what the numbers actually were would have been VERY illuminating, I'm sure...

Just as I'm sure that we will in fact never get to know.

Personally, I think the fix has been in since the beginning. The rest is just cheap drama.

Hey can anyone help me please...are there any mp3 versions of the songs for download so i can get them on my iPod?

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can i have shekhars pics plz specially for 21st june episode n other episodes too plzz

Originally posted by: fruity_19

can i have shekhars pics plz specially for 21st june episode n other episodes too plzz

Why don't you check JJWS-Creation Galley of this forum....here is the link...
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=916254

There is no challengers now...before the elimination was going on both side...but challengers were going out only by the judge's scores....but now there are only champions...they are taking votes of the audience...and judges r also giving marks...now u take the total marks of a champion as 100 marks...then 50% marks will be counted as judge's marks...and the rest 50% will be added by the votes...who will get the lowest mark in total will be eliminated every week...