My Take on Pros as Contestants

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Posted: 11 years ago
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First off a big hello to the IF community - my first time here!
From what I've read, there are a lot of passionate folks here speaking their minds which in itself is a wonderful thing and I certainly don't want to step on any toes but I do have to say something on the new norm of watching Professional Dancers as Contestants on the show. Now, I'm a huge fan of the format (Dancing with the Stars/Strictly Come Dancing) because essentially it is about celebrities from different arenas of entertainment getting pushed out of their comfort zones into the world dancing.

Taking on a Professsional Dancer (someone whose profession is dancing) and trying to pass them off as a Celebrity Contestant (Pros could very well be celebrities but not in the context of the show)

This new norm started with Isha Sherwani, a girl who has done the odd film but is primarily known as a professional dancer and I felt that her addition to the competition with the other contestants were amateur dancers was not entirely fair. I would clarify here that I understand every contestant has varying skill level and ofcourse not everyone is going to be on the same level (for instance quite a few contestants had previous dance experience and had taken ballet/kathak/etc but they weren't dancers by profession) yet it is important to distinguish the Pros from the Contestants. Had it been the BBC's or ABC's installment of the franchise Isha would've most probably been the 'Choreo-Partner' not the contestant.

With Lauren, the following year, things got a bit more odd. if Lauren had competed in her native country's installment of the show (DWTS) she would've definitely been hired as a Pro because everyone who had migrated from So You Think You Can Dance to Dancing with the Stars was hired on as a Pro - most definitely not a contestant.

Again this year we have Shakti Mohan who has won India's take on (SYTYCD) and is primarily recognized as a Professional Dancer dancing on this show as contestant amongst non-professional dancers.

Now before anyone cites fan-bases (or lack thereof) of Professional Dancers and how that is validating their position in the competition amongst popular tv stars - I'd like to say that I'm not talking about the outcome of the competition, I'm talking about the criteria of selection and how the competition itself shouldn't deviate too far from its core ethos of celebrities being pushed out of their comfort zones and attempting something off-the-cuff. Its like hiring professional stunt performers on Khatron Ke Khiladi and making them compete against celebrities.

On a different note I wish Professional Dancers on Jhalak were given the same kind of recognition as their western counterparts. Maksim Chmerkovskiy and others like him are bonafide celebrities but that is largely due to the exposure and recognition they get on their shows - maybe if Jhalak becomes a little less tv/bollywood obsessed and a little more dance obsessed than Professional Dancers like Shakti, Lauren, and Isha would find it more fruitful to be a Pro on the show than a Contestant. I'm glad Salman, Punit, Shampa, and others have become household names and I hope it continues and grows beyond the one odd season on TV.

Side note: there will always be grey areas in the competition like Nichole S winning DWTS even though she had danced before as a part of PCD but since she was primarily a recording artist it became slightly less obvious.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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To clarify I'd name both Tara-Jean and Shakti as contestants who more aptly fit the bill of Pros this season. I looked up TJ and found out she is a SYTYCD alumni - would've definitely been hired as a Pro had she been on the western versions of the show.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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no offense bt muje ye post 3-4 bar padhna padega to comment anything...😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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This is Channel's fault that they approach Professional Dancers as contestants and with all due respect if professional dancer wont be on the show the level of dancing will suck big time...

So the Major reason of approaching Professionals is to increase the level of Dance...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Completely agree with everything you said.

This bringing in Pros as contestants is really ruining the actual DWTS concept.

I'd much rather have the shine and attention on the actual choreos more.

They slog and work and come up with concepts. They are the ones who get a trophy as well. So, I think they really should be given equal, if not more recognition. At times I like when judges appreciate the choreos, like Punit or Shampa or Deepak... But then more than half the times, brilliant minds like Tushaar and Kruti etc are just neglected and used for humor...

But then, this is JDJ. What can one really expect? Idiotic Slapstick Humor and Overdose of Judges hogging the limelight. Nothing else.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Endurance

This is Channel's fault that they approach Professional Dancers as contestants and with all due respect if professional dancer wont be on the show the level of dancing will suck big time...

So the Major reason of approaching Professionals is to increase the level of Dance...


Yes, exactly. I'm commenting on the system - the new norm they have created. I'm not speaking against the dancers.
I disagree with your second point of view though - a couple of seasons ago we had VJ Anushka's sister (an amateur dancer) who was partnered with Punit and for me she embodied the spirit of the show as it was enjoyable to watch improve and grow from strength to strength. To watch Pros compete in an intense competition there are other shows formatted around that concept such as SYTYCD or Dance India Dance.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: _SenbonZakura_

Completely agree with everything you said.


This bringing in Pros as contestants is really ruining the actual DWTS concept.

I'd much rather have the shine and attention on the actual choreos more.

They slog and work and come up with concepts. They are the ones who get a trophy as well. So, I think they really should be given equal, if not more recognition. At times I like when judges appreciate the choreos, like Punit or Shampa or Deepak... But then more than half the times, brilliant minds like Tushaar and Kruti etc are just neglected and used for humor...

But then, this is JDJ. What can one really expect? Idiotic Slapstick Humor and Overdose of Judges hogging the limelight. Nothing else.


The judges and obviously-manufactured sorry excuses for comedy are definitely bringing the show down. Not to mention all that Bollywood glorification - Bollywood is a great source of entertainment but it isn't the only source - dance can stand on its on as an art without all that Bollywood injected in.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sugarfoxtrot


Yes, exactly. I'm commenting on the system - the new norm they have created. I'm not speaking against the dancers.
I disagree with your second point of view though - a couple of seasons ago we had VJ Anushka's sister (an amateur dancer) who was partnered with Punit and for me she embodied the spirit of the show as it was enjoyable to watch improve and grow from strength to strength. To watch Pros compete in an intense competition there are other shows formatted around that concept such as SYTYCD or Dance India Dance.

Yes but JDJ is more of like dacing with Stars ...
So whoever is popular will be brought inspite of fact that the person's popularity is because of dance ..

DID is more about newcomers .. Now people like Shakti and Lauren can't go DID .. they r much known ..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Endurance

Yes but JDJ is more of like dacing with Stars ...

So whoever is popular will be brought inspite of fact that the person's popularity is because of dance ..

DID is more about newcomers .. Now people like Shakti and Lauren can't go DID .. they r much known ..


Yes which is why in my opinion they should be hired on DWTS/JDJ as Pros and be given the same amount of recognition and have the same amount of celebrity as Pros (such as Maksim, Julianne Hough, and Mark Ballas) on the its western counterparts.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sugarfoxtrot


Yes which is why in my opinion they should be hired on DWTS/JDJ as Pros and be given the same amount of recognition and have the same amount of celebrity as Pros (such as Maksim, Julianne Hough, and Mark Ballas) on the its western counterparts.


Can't comment for sure on Shakti but if Lauren was hired on JDJ's American counterpart then there was no way in heck she would've been contestant. Lacey Shwimmer, a very popular SYTYCD alumnae who had lot of fans voting for her to reach the top 4 of the competition went onto become a Pro on DWTS, same is the case with many popular contestants that the audiences voted.

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