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Posted: 18 years ago
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[ no one requested a bio data of your extra curricular activities..i don't know what you're trying to prove we can all list our personal achievements. if you want to consider it as an attack fine, but first consider what you post and realize what it means, and it will definetly get a reaction. Unlike what you think , I don't need to prove nothing..and the word count in my posts conveys an attempt at discussion, trying to get involved in a civil manner and be eloquent but when people fail and turn it into a personal achievement contest or a debate club, there's no use of trying to explain or elaborate any further.

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who is giving u my resume? (err biodata with ec activities 😉)
what makes u think u wud be worthy of that?? u commented about my lack of life outside JDJ forum and passion. u made negative remarks about me. hence i reminded u what i do / did, outside of forum and why i have so much passion for dance.
Anyway, for me, discussion is done with u. enjoy ur eloquent civil elaborate manner of discussions urself. adios!
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Posted: 18 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: xaneroyxx

[ no one requested a bio data of your extra curricular activities..i don't know what you're trying to prove we can all list our personal achievements. if you want to consider it as an attack fine, but first consider what you post and realize what it means, and it will definetly get a reaction. Unlike what you think , I don't need to prove nothing..and the word count in my posts conveys an attempt at discussion, trying to get involved in a civil manner and be eloquent but when people fail and turn it into a personal achievement contest or a debate club, there's no use of trying to explain or elaborate any further.

civil manner and eloquent😲,...meaning to say calling people manipulators and fanatics and fir for politics is what being eloquent is all about...🤢

my opinion in someone's debating methods

thereby an attack one someone's personality,because these "methods" are a reflection of the personality damnit

and that they could be a great politician should be taken as a compliment

not necessarily...you cant say something nasty,and then say its a compleiment...

not a personal attack and thats exactly what i mean by manipulative..people who twist things around for their own ends.

however I appologixe if i offended you in any way..and that my posts are not aimed at you or any specific person..your replies generate reactions.

so do yours...it was a peaceful debate untill you started calling me names...

So YES if you comprehend english that would be commenting on the judge's functionality and mannerisms

which also involves shveta....because we discuss about the judges' comments for the contestants...judges only rate the contestants..thus discussing about the judges' is basically debating about the contestant's performances..thus contestants are too involved in this,not alone the judges



When someone discusses judges comments or the way they carry themselves on the show, and its a general unbiased discussion and the other person makes it a mission to point out shveta's goodies by exploiting the discussion and declaring it a public campaign.

didnt you talk about Mona's improvement....even you spoke about svetha in the following manner"Shveta is a great dancer, very mouldable to all styles and with training i think she could make it big,not Madhuri big".....so even you spoke about her....

thus see,its you who said that svetha cant be as good as madhuri,you brought in svetha into this,dont sound as though it was me alone who dragged svetha into this😕

granted bearing in mind the sentiments fans have for their contestants however if should never override reasoning. and at the end of the day to each his own. and if your sole purpose in not just this thread but many is to show that shveta is invincible then by all means, i think its good for you..

I dont understand this...when you can say that svetha can never make it as big as madhuri,much before all this accusation started,cant the svetha fans say that she is good.....what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gancer....if you are entitled to discuss about shveta's dancing prowess,so are we....because if my tone seems manipulative,so does yours,who is trying to prove a point that svetha isnt as good as madhuri,and can never be....you would call it your opinion,similarly,please respect ours and dont call me a manipulator


If you see this as a personal attack then its your own judgement.

similarly, its a personal judgment that svetha can be as good as madhuri....please learn to respect that,and stop caling names only because a certain clique feels so.......You truly need to learn how to accept other's logical reasoning as an opinion

its an analysis/opinion of the method of argument and bantering used.

and I call your method of bantering "ones imbued with personal attack and name calling".....🤢..You started the mudslinging by calling us people without a life,manipulators etc..dont think you could rip off every ounce of our dignity and self respect,and then justify it🤢


and the results are going to be out soon, and i believe this discussion is going to take an uglier from after. you seem to take everything said in context of the two contestants.

So do you.....you main gripe was that I compared svetha to mona,whereas you yourself has brought in mona and shveta

.and to inferiorate one and empower another. i hope it works for you. but the discussion posted was on the judges behavior and the show in general.

you could go blue in your face reiterating the same thing,but you didnt bring in mona and svetha,and you said that svetha can never be madhuri....so stop saying that its only about the judges

i dont think there's much life beyond JDJ for fanatic fans like you..you're soo passionate and you seem to know what exactly is required from all contestants to survive on the show.

isnt this a personal attack😡....you call me manipulative,only for comparing svetha and mona....then you called QT a fanatic...you think you can get away with all this....what does this name calling qualify under...so you can get annoyed when svetha is compared to mona,and when svetha fans praise her,but we need to take all this name calling tranquilly....😕


Edited by Buffie - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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very covenient buffie, the fact is that apart from dancing ,appeal is also very important ,for eg when u go for an interview ur educational qualifications aliong with ur communication skills,personality gets u the job beating all the other applicants .If u cant figure that out then I wonder how u you would succeed in life . I wish you all the best

well I am sure u dont care what i think of you and as i said it doesnt matter to me but at some point you would have to think abt how and what others think of you and its going to be difficult then

well the fact is you supported amey when karunya was still there being the best ,dont give excuises that amey and karunya werent the final two,the fact is u didnt support the best and thats it.According to ur debates in this forum,U say that the best deserves to win and u should vote based on that then why didnt u vote for karunya and voted for amey instead.Its clear who is hypocritical .

yeah you are just 18 and thats exactly what i was trying to say i all my posts that u still have a long way to go and thats why ur posts are soooo childish and you have said it urself and I am sure u will grow with age and learn with age .

changing ur likes for heroes shows that u change ur likes as when ur preferences change but u fail to understand that its the same for everyone and everybody and u need to respect that instead of calling others hpocrites and biased . I have been in ur age and have had the same thoughts but beleive me ,u will change with time and age .

just like how u feel that someone is the best ,others feel that the other is the best so does that make them hpocritical NO bcoz thats their perspective of BEST and u need to understand that .

dont always think that whaever u think and form an opinion about is the same for everyone and the one who goes against you or dont share the same opinion as urs become "biased and hypocritical " .I have said this several times and i have to repeat this again and again bcoz of ur post and thoughts and I am sad abt it ..

just bcoz u think hrithik is the best dancer doesnt mean everyone should feel the same .Do you know how many feel that govinda is the best dancer or prabhu deva is the best dancer or shahid is the best dancer coz each one has their own tastes and styles that they like and hence just l;ike hrithik appeals to u more,the other stars appeal to them more so no one can call then narrow minded or hypocritical coz they do not have the same taste as urs .

learn that soon buffie ,u will have lesser posts to reply to

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Posted: 18 years ago
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very covenient buffie, the fact is that apart from dancing ,appeal is also very important ,for eg when u go for an interview ur educational qualifications aliong with ur communication skills,personality gets u the job beating all the other applicants .If u cant figure that out then I wonder how u you would succeed in life . I wish you all the best

well I am sure u dont care what i think of you and as i said it doesnt matter to me but at some point you would have to think abt how and what others think of you and its going to be difficult then

well the fact is you supported amey when karunya was still there being the best ,dont give excuises that amey and karunya werent the final two,the fact is u didnt support the best and thats it.According to ur debates in this forum,U say that the best deserves to win and u should vote based on that then why didnt u vote for karunya and voted for amey instead.Its clear who is hypocritical .

yeah you are just 18 and thats exactly what i was trying to say i all my posts that u still have a long way to go and thats why ur posts are soooo childish and you have said it urself and I am sure u will grow with age and learn with age .

changing ur likes for heroes shows that u change ur likes as when ur preferences change but u fail to understand that its the same for everyone and everybody and u need to respect that instead of calling others hpocrites and biased . I have been in ur age and have had the same thoughts but beleive me ,u will change with time and age .

just like how u feel that someone is the best ,others feel that the other is the best so does that make them hpocritical NO bcoz thats their perspective of BEST and u need to understand that .

dont always think that whaever u think and form an opinion about is the same for everyone and the one who goes against you or dont share the same opinion as urs become "biased and hypocritical " .I have said this several times and i have to repeat this again and again bcoz of ur post and thoughts and I am sad abt it ..

just bcoz u think hrithik is the best dancer doesnt mean everyone should feel the same .Do you know how many feel that govinda is the best dancer or prabhu deva is the best dancer or shahid is the best dancer coz each one has their own tastes and styles that they like and hence just l;ike hrithik appeals to u more,the other stars appeal to them more so no one can call then narrow minded or hypocritical coz they do not have the same taste as urs .

learn that soon buffie ,u will have lesser posts to reply to

so well written tina.....👏👏👏

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: soap_fan

so well written tina.....👏👏👏

Yup.. well said Tina!!

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Posted: 18 years ago
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look...its his opinion not ours...so we cant say anything about it...how can we prove him wrong?...if u think mona's better than shweta, then thats ur opinion, so if sanjay says that shweta's as good as madhuri, then thats also is opinion, so we cant do anything about it.....and btw...sanjay has worked with madhuri and knows her a lot better than us, thus he has the right to compare madhuri with shweta! 😡
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: *shikha*

look...its his opinion not ours...so we cant say anything about it...how can we prove him wrong?...if u think mona's better than shweta, then thats ur opinion, so if sanjay says that shweta's as good as madhuri, then thats also is opinion, so we cant do anything about it.....and btw...sanjay has worked with madhuri and knows her a lot better than us, thus he has the right to compare madhuri with shweta! 😡

EXACTLY.. its all based on opinions. Then why are people who are rooting for Mona being called biased??

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Selina

EXACTLY.. its all based on opinions. Then why are people who are rooting for Mona being called biased??

because they say that mona's dancing is better because she lost weight,because she smiles nicely

mona's dance is bad because tobby stranded her and because the judges are biased

these excuses render them to be biased....if Mona performs well,all credit to her,if she goofs up,its the judges' fault and tobby's fault🤢

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Buffie

because they say that mona's dancing is better because she lost weight,because she smiles nicely

mona's dance is bad because tobby stranded her and because the judges are biased

these excuses render them to be biased....if Mona performs well,all credit to her,if she goofs up,its the judges' fault and tobby's fault🤢



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Posted: 18 years ago

very covenient buffie, the fact is that apart from dancing ,appeal is also very important ,for eg when u go for an interview ur educational qualifications aliong with ur communication skills,personality gets u the job beating all the other applicants .If u cant figure that out then I wonder how u you would succeed in life . I wish you all the best

Please stop analysing my future,its so bad in taste..Its my life,stop analysing my character based on my crushes and my future...I dont think I've given you the right to discuss about my future and my life...you call yourself to be matured,and this is all your maturity is...and people here get offended for talking about stars,who pose themselves for judgment,and expect a real person shouldnt get offended when their life and future is discussed🤢

well I am sure u dont care what i think of you and as i said it doesnt matter to me but at some point you would have to think abt how and what others think of you and its going to be difficult then

that's my problem,my parents' problem..definitely not yours...this time you crossed limits and all lines of decency by discussing about my inate character and my future and my life......I'm not posing myself for judgment out here,and havent yet given anyone the right to talk anout my future and my life...

Your basic accusation, itself is wrong,as I dont try to force people not to vote for mona,I only reason out....I dont manipulate people,I only state points...when they have no other points to retaliate mine,some resort to name calling

There are Mona fans who want to vote for her,only because they like her smile/attitude/appearance and everything else barring dancing They arent being judicious judges....they are voting only because they LIKE someone personally,and they admit it without any qualms...SOme even admit they are biased,so when they themselves admit,what's your problem😕.......The dancing isnt given any importance,and its unfair on the other contestant who is the better dancer.....SOme even accept that svetha is the better dancer,but still root for mona,because she is their favourite..which is biasness.....Most of the people agree that Svetha was better than Mona in the finals,some people came up with excuses as to why mona didnt perform well(one being it was tobby's fault,another being judges are biased),both these being excuses to condone mona's lacklustre performance,which indirectly implies that her performance wasnt upto the mark....and they still want to vote for her,knowing she isnt the best,which is biasness.....SOme say that her graph is the best,and she has shown maximumimprovement,she might not be the best,but she tried....thus,people are voting,albeit knowing she isnt the best,but because she improved....

Bottomline...they know and even accept that mona wasnt the best,but still want her to win....which is a clear case of biasness....some malign svetha's character,and call her "arrogant,jealous,rude etc"....some say that Mona is more sporting...all personal opinions,I agree,but these opinions shouldnt be the deciding factor which decides who is the better "dancer"......the fans who vote for the "other" aspects barring dancing are the ones who are trying to find a suitable excuse to cover up the fact that their favourite wasnt the best dancer,so vote because of all other factors.....🤢..All mona fans used to bash the judges for overrating mahesh..thye used to say that he isnt given marks for his dancing,he is given marks because he is a director..now these people are sending votes because mona happens to be their favourite...which is a case of hypocrisy!.......Thus,people all around are being unfair,and arent voting for the best dancer,which hurts...as the ones who are really talented and who deserve to win(and here its svetha,because many mona fans too hav accepted that she was the better dancer) dont,because of the biasness of the fans

HAving an opinion about mona is fine,but letting personal preferences come in the way of judgment is all what biasness is about🤢........SVetha is the better dancer,everyone knows this...one might not agree openly,but one cant lie to oneself.....the Mona fans are yet to prove that 1)her toe pointing was proper 2)her dance wasnt repetitive 3)her hips were moving reaLLY well.....and this is my last post here,because I just cant bear to see this biasness and hypocrisy all around.....🤢..debateship is called dictatorship...ones who point out some facts are called dictators,those who say that svetha is as good as madhuri is a dictator......

Its absolutely allright for the other parties to come up with excuses,no one calls that ramming inside one's throat,its absolutely alright for people to malign svetha's character,its allright for people to keep repeating that she is jealous,but heaven forbid..the svetha fans say anything in her defense,they're termed as dictators👏

Edited by Buffie - 18 years ago

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