Big Boss 19: Daily Discussion Thread - Aug 28, 2025
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in my perspective, JDJ shud be judged on the basis of "who improves the best with each episode on a weekly basis". sushant undoubtedly is an awesome dancer with a great choreographer but he isint improving beyond his own benchmark!
Originally posted by: desi_baby07
Umm I'm not taking sides here.. so please don't jump on me. 😳I like Sushant, as much as I like the others too. I even liked Krushna.. but I guess Robin wasn't the best choreo for him.Anyhow, why are people jumping on Sushant just because he's a trained dancer?!! Even in the previous seasons of this show, there have been trained dancers, or ones that have danced sometime in their lifetime. If they can come here to show their talent.. then why not Sushant?-aisha.ps. not here to start conflicts.. I just find it harsh to point fingers at someone who's not even at fault. :/
Originally posted by: nikitagmc
@EatPrayLove:
Now this training, at many points, is NOT an advantage. During ZNKD, the boys team had done a group act of 'staccato' dancing- they had dressed up as zombies and were dancing like them. At that time, Vaibhavi Merchant picked out on Sushant and said that he hadn't got the dance right like the others- the Jazz style had unconsciously come into his movements- everyone else in the team (including untrained dancers and a little child) had done better than him- the raw feel of the movements was correct.
If you've been reading around this forum, you must have read how Sushant supporters were expressing their fears that he wouldn't do very well this week in street dancing-- reason? His movements are of the 'flowy' and 'flowery' kind- not the type for something like 'Locking and Popping'. We had written in a number of threads that he would have to 'unlearn' the jazz if he had to do LnP, otherwise he would get a similar comment once again. Its a good thing however that he did well, maybe he really worked hard on his style.
So you see, its not always an advantage to be trained.
I'd no idea about this ZNKD thing. But confining ourselves only to JDJ for now, you will agree that till now Sushant's training has only worked in his favour, and not against him in any manner, right? Don't you think that his amazing performances would have been substantially less so were he not trained? To put it differently, wouldn't the other contestants have scored higher were they aware of the basic techniques of dance, and regularly putting it into use, as is the case with Sushant?
I'll try to make my point clear this way: In ALL award shows, we always have two categories: Best Debut Actor, and Best Actor. This distinction is made to ensure that competition remains fair. You cannot expect Ranbir to win against Aamir. IMO, JDJ is about the people who fit in "Debut Dancer" category, WHO ARE NOT PROFESSIONALS/TRAINED IN THE FIELD OF DANCING. They may have dancing experience, but they ARE NOT DANCERS. Sushant, on the contrary, most obviously belongs to the "Best Dancer" category. He's way ahead of the other contestants which makes his victory much more probable than that of the others.
Now having Sushant competing with the likes of Akhil, Daya etc totally destroys their chances, like a common "best actor" award will destroy all chances of any newcomer ever winning an award.
I know my analogy is weird, but this is the best I could manage.
Other than that- the judges always scrutinize the trained ones MORE. Sushant got 20 for his first dance which was said to be GOOD. Ragini, Daya and others got 22/23 when their acts were NOT APPRECIATED. You see the difference in the level of scoring???
But that was only in the first round, when the judges scores were totally :-O. After that, Sushant has consistently got great scores, (for his undoubtedly great performances), and in fact, has set the bar EXTREMELY high for the other contestants.
Eventually the judges method of individual analysis makes a difference. Maybe yes, somewhere the advantage of being trained/danced before creeps in- they have more control over their postures and their body- and it would be perfect if the channel gets dancers of an equal level to take part. BUT THAT IS PRACTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE- REASON??? The channel DOES NOT know the complete dance background of every person. Sometimes people do not 'train professionally' in a dance form but learn it outside- in their community, at school etc. The Rajasthani folk that Ankita did--- she had done a dance similar to it in SCHOOL as a child and hence she could do it- if you have seen the rehearsal video- it was she who was guiding her choreographer about getting the steps right. Sushant could do the sword fighting thing cos he has learnt martial arts and his choreo cleverly used it in the dance by taking an appropriate theme. Mahi Vij said that she doesn't know how to dance, but knows bhangra (maybe cos of her background). Daya too said on the JDJ site that he dances in parties with his friends. Akhil maybe knowing bhangra too, for all we know.
It's difficult and requires hard work, but certainly not IMPOSSIBLE. If the channel does not know the dance background of the people, well, it pretty much has to FIND OUT! And I'm not talking about EXPERIENCE in dancing, I'm talking about the TRAINING, which basically makes a person a real, actual DANCER. Experience toh everyone has, even I, being the worst possible dancer in the whole of humankind, have embarrassed myself and my family at baraats.The unfair element is not coz of the experience, it's coz of the training.
Now how will the channel go into such depths to find out exactly how much past dancing experience a person has, and then decide whether he/she should be a candidate on this show???
As I said, they needn't go into such depths. Just a basic knowledge of whether they are trained or not. That's it.
We do not live in an idealistic world na! Every system has its flaws/limitations. Nothing is perfect.
Well, that's just my point. Having Sushant in JDJ is a flaw/limitation from the organisers part, and it makes their work imperfect.
Originally posted by: nikitagmc
@Nadzgirl:
Your philosophy is so simple and so clear. I love it!!
Exactly my point- when the contestants, the judges, the production people don't have any problems, its not against the concept also, then why is everyone getting so worked up about it. The contestants entered into the show with open eyes- no one forced them into it.
Everyone has favourites, even I do, but why the need to pull down others saying he is not deserving or he shouldn't have been there? Enjoy the show and vote for your favourite, maamla khatam!!!
@lunza: You're forgetting the accident part. He had an accident in ZND when he fell on glass. Luckily he didn't hurt his face, but his hands showed signs of injury in his first performance.
Sushant did very few dances in ZND. He was ill or hurt most of the time.
oh ya .. ZND turned out to be a bit of a nightmare for sushant .. it took a toll on his health .. he hurt his leg .. had to be admitted to the hospital .. fainted on the sets .. ..then stomach infection if I am not mistaken..
don't think he enjoyed the ZND experience much..