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Posted: 13 years ago
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Grapes are always sour... 😈
The other contestant can never do what Isha and Salman have been doing...
I have been shocked to see sick ppl making post in the forum with such headline as Yeaaah Isha is injured. Why ppl hate Isha and Salman soo much ? And calling the judgeds Baised to them all the time ?
This show should be called who is more famous than a Dancing show where the celebraty status is more important than Dancing Skill. 😔
Edited by memyselfndI - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dunno in dance prespective how much I would compliment (8)but todays perfo Isha did a extrodinary act(10)!!! šŸ‘
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: DiviNitya

Dunno in dance prespective how much I would compliment (8)but todays perfo Isha did a extrodinary act(10)!!! šŸ‘



I know today's act was completely about her flexibility and acrobats as people like to put it, but it was brilliant for me. I don't think I would have seen something like it on the stage if it weren't for Isha. And I liked it more cuz it was quite fluid and flowed well with their song. Loved the costume as well and some of the postures, mind blowing. I am sure there is a reason why judges awarded her perfect 30, who am I to question them when I felt the same.
Edited by -Chandramukhi- - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: memyselfndI

Grapes are always sour... 😈

The other contestant can never do what Isha and Salman have been doing...
I have been shocked to see sick ppl making post in the forum with such headline as Yeaaah Isha is injured. Why ppl hate Isha and Salman soo much ? And calling the judgeds Baised to them all the time ?
This show should be called who is more famous than a Dancing show where the celebraty status is more important than Dancing Skill. 😔



@blue, lets leave that to the individual's taste or else they'll say I am questioning their taste buds šŸ˜†šŸ˜†

Jokes aside, I agree to your post to an extend, I definitely think it is sick of people to make fun of someone's injury. But no worries, it was only one member who did that. Most the members on JDJ aren't that cruel to make such lame statements.

Edited by -Chandramukhi- - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: khamosshhh

Excellent post!šŸ‘

I had mentioned it elsewhere and I state it here again tht are we so seeped in mediocrity tht some of us are deliberately or not, irnoring the high and international quality of dance tht Isha has been performing not one or twice but week after week after week? I too don't understand the cribbing by members of Isha repeating herself. Certain mpments r bound to be repeated in dances, and tht is done by all contestants and infact all dancers. The only thing tht stands out in Isha's case is tht the steps and movements she does, others don't or can't and teherfore since it is only she who does it, it seems repetitive. I thought the same, most of her lifts and her style of steps during her performance can dominate one's thoughts and thus there is a possibility for them to ignore the rest and just remember that. So when she performs again, obviously the moves are different but her style is the same, so someone can misunderstand and think of it as the same move as before. So it is understandable to get frustrated after a while. Simply "my" theory. At least her style of dancing is obvious compared to some others.
I hv found the performances of Isha varied and the concepts too different. Also it is so unfair tht everytime Isha Salman r getting such undeserved bricbrats, when clearly frm their performances it is evident the amount of thought, heart and effort they hv put into them. Agreed everyone works hard on their concept and dancing, so does Isha and it is evident. Even if people think it is monotonous, at least she does it with perfection. And thus the perfect scores. And it works with judges as well. When it didn't in the past, her scores reflected that like in the Bollywood number. They could easily hv rested on their laurels and gone on to do less intricate dance, but infact it seems dey keep raising their own bars and keep coming up with spellbinding perrformances.
Oops didn't expect to write such a long post. But would like to end it with something tht Salman Khan had siad, and rightly so, tht to comment on Isha's performance would be a tauheen. 😊 Bingo šŸ‘šŸ¼



Love their performances 😃
Edited by -Chandramukhi- - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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thnk u for the wonderful post...i don't get it when people in this forum bash Isha saying she can't do all forms...
i know ki yahan sare kisi na kisi ke fans hain but it doesn't mean aap kisi ko aapreciate bhi na krein...
i myself is a huge fan of KW and RD but i do say that they should go if they didn't perform bettr...aftrall this is a competition and so the best one should win...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Agree with you!!😊
It's really high time. Celebs need to be given a break.
In this forum, cribbing is quite popular. Let it be about dance, judges or celebs. I am not generalizing all but this is a trend.
If Isha has showcased her strength "Flexibility" and Salman often use it then why so cribbing about it. As a choreographer, it's his duty here to present Isha with most scoring style. Who doesn't want perfect 30??!! If tango, Salsa are done then with the technicalities of dance form, Salman uses her flexibility. What's wrong with that??? Dance form is just added up with concept. Nothing is retrenched.
Leave about Isha-Salman. If any of choreographer is using strength of his/her contestant and try to explore in his/her forte than it is quite perfect strategy for a show like JDJ. JDJ is not some typical talent hunt where one needs to try and fail or try and succeed. In my POV, all matters in shows like JDJ is flawless performances and that is right. If Dancer justifies what she/he is given, then how we can state her/him weak, non-versatile or non-deserving.

And when someone really try something new and fell on mouth, then we state him/her "should get out" dancer.

If we are demanding versatility then patience and faith should come across. One bad performance or may be two declare a dancer BAD.
Using actors' strengths and covering his/her weak points with the help of other elements of dance like concept, dramatization, cloths or music even, it is not wrong but right for the show like JDJ where scores are money.
I don't get those people who just see negative side and can declare it truth.😳
I would say "Please give a break to everyone people".😊
EDIT: Typo😳

Edited by Nxt_rockstar - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Agree with you awesom post dear...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: MadameX

Okay, since it was dense reading, I'll break it down (for my sake) to what I think you're pointing out to us:

1. Today's epi was about showcasing your strength and Isha did that by showcasing her flexibility.

I agree with this because this is justified: Isha's the queen of twisting limbs like nobody can. This is serious tough business and the way she makes it look easy is just damn wow-worthy. I can't even make my little pinky do the wave so she has my respect in that.

2. You said, "it seems the same flexibility is her biggest weakness cuz people have started to pay attention only to that and ignore the rest,"

Now, in your own words, there is flexibility and something else. To me (and I only speak for myself), that something else was nothing else. The whole act looked like complicated contortionist yoga poses, not dancing. I'm just a simple person, with no dance background whatsoever, simply observing with my untrained eye. This might bring error to my judgment of her performance so I'm sorry for that. I just thought I'd state how I saw things (which would be different from people who study or do dance). To me, dance is a summation of definitive, rhythmic movements and body expressions. There were bodily expressions but no rhythmic movements in today's performance. I forgot what dance form they were doing'if you or someone can mention it, I can do a mini research and see how that dance form should be done and how much they justified it. Till then, this is all I can say.

3. There is nothing wrong with using flexibility (her strength) to hide her weaknesses.

I also agree with this. A person should come out to perform with all plus points to make a really impactful good performance. This is usually done by showcasing strengths and concealing weaknesses. In the beginning, Isha's crazy flexibility was a wow factor. I remember thinking that this girl was going to go far and I was going to like and root for her. But then the novelty wore off. Her flexibility was there for a large part of all her successive performances (and today's just took the cake by her flexibility being the only thing going on) with little variation in them (split, flip, some basic dance steps of the dance form, split, flip, split, flip, etc) and I got bored because the novelty was gone and my mind started wandering. A person can show off all their strengths all they want week after week, but we're humans'..we get desensitized when our brains catch on the repetition and it starts to tune the performance out. That's why her performances become unmemorable and barely an impact is left. When there's no impact, then it's not a wow performance'no matter how technically purrr-fect it is. The feeling of blandness negates the performance.

Now other contestants do bring around changes so they keep my brain on alert because there's novelty to it. Gurmeet always becomes a whole new character every week (vampire, lion, peacock, patriot, etc) so despite his rusty dancing at times, his acts have been more memorable than Isha's. Bharti's repetition is that she does comedy but the comedy is varied and even with that variation she has more variation between her acts: different dance forms, different moods, etc. She did an emotional contemporary act, a romantic rumba, an energetic lavnia, a superbly funny afro jazz, bits of hip-hop and bhangra (both of which were not well done, btw).

Oh, will you look at that? I managed to name the different acts of two weaker-than-Isha dancers and yet the only Isha acts I could remember was that scary-out-of-the bag one (and only because of the makeup and theatrics) and the three-people pole act (this one I genuinely liked). I couldn't even do this sort of stunt purposefully even if I tried. Her acts really bore me and I feel like pressing the fast-forward button because the novelty, the wow-factor isn't there. She might as well not have been technically perfect.

And while we're on the topic of being technically perfect, I feel the way judges grade her are not with the same standards used to grade others. Yesterday, Remo pointed out minor fumbles in Rithvick's lifts and gave a low result because of that but Isha's minor fumbles with 2 lifts were blatantly ignored and she got a full 30. Today, Rashmi received cuts for her marks for everything else being alright but just not sharp movements in two tiny spots'.while the slide that Isha did around Salman's body at the end of her act was not flowing smoothly (her head banged against one of his legs and I felt she should've held onto his arm and let her lower body slide to the right position before letting go). Yet she received perfect score. Either Rashmi and Rithvick should get 30s too or Isha should get the same scores as them.

To sum up, I think the people who are saying Isha and Salman's acts are repetitive, or they don't do other dance forms, etc, etc, aren't really expressing themselves too well. It's the snide comments, politically incorrect statements, and/or devil-may-care, frivolous attitude with which they respond mask what they mean. It seems like they're not saying it's wrong for Isha to showcase her flexibility every week'but that damn, it bores us all to tears. So in laymen's terms we all groan, say, "Ugggh," and "OMG, for the love of sweet pie, why did she get a 30???"

Btw, the argument, "it works for judges so it should work for us" is just a'.bad argument, sorry to say. It's like saying if it works for the anti-Isha or the sour grapes (as I guess I might be called), then it works for the rest of the people on the forum'..which isn't true because it obviously didn't work for you. You found justification in Isha and I didn't.


So there it is. šŸ˜† I hope this post was un-offending as possible and it explains things.



thank you! now THIS is called criticism... i'm not a fan of isha-salman, but it was tiresome to see so many 'criticism' posts against them in the past couple of days that was bordering on bashing... as i said in another post, the reason isha-salman get criticized so much is because of the pedestal they have been put on since the beginning on the show... a lot of times, the judges seem to point out and cut marks for mistakes in other contestants and ignore the ones made by isha-salman... when other people do not see the perfection that the judges seem to see in them, it will be pointed out...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Chandu šŸ¤—

Boy oh boy I read all the comments and this is a first for me cuz I usually read the main post and ditch the rest!! I don't wanna rant about sad complainers who always take digs at Salman & Isha to write them off cuz I'm tired of it

Moving on to the content of the post, I must admit that I'm in a perplexed situation with regard to Salman & Isha's performances at present. Keeping my emotions aside as a fan of Salman, I find Isha being walled with boundaries and stuck in a comfort zone. Despite attempting different styles, the output seems monotonous at present due to the styles or the execution or some other unknown reason. I guess this is why the Tango act she did on Saturday did not impress me that much.

Salman needs to push her and break her boundaries with his choreography and attempt styles like hip hop, bangra, locking & popping, lyrical hip hop, Indian classical, stomping etc Yes she failed in that Bollywood act she did but can one obstacle stop you from showcasing your worthiness? No, she should try it again and overcome that hurdle. I'm an ardent Salman fan so I remember all his performances from DID till JDJ so I noticed that few steps from Saturday's Tango act were taken off from his previous season's romantic Tango act with Yana on 'Chori kiya'. It's not a crime to repeat your own choreography cuz everybody does that but I want Salman to excel and show us something ordinary in an extraordinary execution. Perhaps my expectations are sky high considering the love and respect I have for Salman as a choreographer

Nevertheless I'm rooting for these two and wanna see them holding this trophy at the end cuz they totally deserve to win

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