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Posted: 12 years ago

I suppose all of us are entitled to our own opinions. I do enjoy Isha's performances and I believe that yoga can be used as a dance form to an extent. I think Isha has tried a variety of dances and, as would be the case with most people, excels at some dance forms and not at others. E.g. Tango is not her forte but she did a reasonably good job yesterday, but didn't succeed at Hip Hop a few weeks ago.

She doesn't have a large enough fan base like that of soap stars, who can 'afford' to fail, i.e. even if they try something new and don't do a good job, they have a large number of ardent fans who will vote for them 1000x times. So it may well be a reason as to why she doesn't try much of hip hop, etc. Also, a lot of times the dance forms are given to them by the channel and they don't always have the liberty to pick what dance form they'll perform.


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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: salmangirl

Look at ur way of talking..digusting! is the word for u... Atleast they are professionals..n they knw it and nt blind lyk sme ppl..



Noo. U arent a professional are you? Thats why u got it all wrong. Disgusting is the word for phangirls like you 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
Ignorant of dance forms for people here are on full show. If one can not differentiate different dance forms, nothing can be done by the contestants. people do not understand more than word "dance". Look at each dance according to its type and dance requirement. One can not do kuchipuri steps in Argentina Tango. You can enrich yourself with knowledge in this era of internet. Google for Argentina tango and check if Isha-Salman fulfills the requriement of Tango or not. I did the same and found they did what is needed for Tango. Judges specially Remo knows lot of different type of forms, they are judge and not supporter of certain contestants that is the reasion their opinion is different from people here in this forum.
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Posted: 12 years ago
know these days there performances are ichting me!!

i better watch bharti and savio indeed of them!!

seriosly

i even did switch the channel some of their last performances
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: jyoti06

^^ To b honest I m really scared to write naything in this forum 😆...so thank god at least I share a common view with someone 😆...I really wish such talented dancers like Rasmi and Ritwik were introduced either right at the start of the show to compare them with Isha about versatality or mayb they should hv come next year ...



I completely agree, it is sad to see people not put 2 and 2 together and start insulting these contestants just because they are tired of seeing them 😕 while praise Rashmi and Rithvik for being different, hell they will be cuz they are only here for 4 weeks, they are still fresh like a bud, not saying I don't enjoy their acts. I love all three on the stage but they simply can't be compared for all three stand at different levels, way too much of disparity.
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Posted: 12 years ago
@Chandramukhi and HakkaBakka:

I completely agree! The repeated "ghisa pita" comments about Isha lacking versatility is now getting old, especially since so many have tried to explain (with facts, mind you) that that is simply not true! It truly is your problem if you perceive Tango, Contemporary, Paso Doble, Solstrom, Bachata, etc. are all similar dance forms. And there are those people who repeatedly harp on and on about her expressions. Apparently she has none. I've never understood this one. I've always noticed her expressions and she does a good job at emoting for the most part. Oh I forgot...there are also those who complain about Salman's choreography. I'm not saying everybody should like Isha or Salman. But if you're going to say something, please explain yourselves!
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Posted: 12 years ago

Bazinga, Thank you for this topic. It is scary to post any thing on this forum but I am hoping I can have a respectful discourse with few of you guys, wether we agree or not.


Today Isha was in her zone. She did what she does best. They had to use their bhramastra and that they absolutely did. There really is no one equal to Isha at the present on JDJ when it come to the form she excels in which is I am thinking western dance with an acrobatic twist. Her postures were perfect. She had wonderful control over her body. Sometimes I feel Salman has learnt so much from her rather than the other way around. LOL! But guess what, as a viewer it did nothing for me. And I feel so sad. This is what I was always worried about Isha. From the first episode they have been showing what they do best but with different props.


Every dance of theirs when I look back, I feel I have seen the same moves again and again but on different concepts with different settings and different costumes. Here is where I think Isha-Salman's strategy is faltering. Their progression graph is a plateau for me. There is no upward slope. Not because they can't dance, in fact quite the opposite, they are at their peak and they have nothing else to show except the same thing which now the audience has begun to view it as monotonous. I remember our Indian captain Dhoni's interview during the world cup where he says it is very important that you do not peak early in a competition such as the world cup because then you will reach your saturation point earlier than you would want to and when the time comes you would be scared to experiment with new batting/bowling combination that could very well be your winning combination. I think that is exactly what is happening with Isha and Salman. They didn't experiment much or take risks with various styles, early on in the competition where even if they had made mistakes they had more of a safety net. Right now if they try different styles and they fail their mistakes would be so glaringly obvious at the same time by not doing anything different, their dancing looks very monotonous. A very difficult place to be in.


This is in direct contrast to two other choreographers that I thought would go to the top 3 and that is Punit and Shampa. Their contestants had strengths and weaknesses too, yet they took risks knowing fully well that their contestants can fall flat on their faces. Since Punit has left the competition I will mention Shampa. She knows her contestant's weaknesses, yet she has challenged the guy to try so many different things. They have taken risks and few times those risks didn't pay off too well either. Yet, when I look at their graph I see progression and not a plateau. As a viewer I can remember their dances (the good and the bad) more distinctly than Isha and Salman's because the latters' all the performances blend with each other. The way I remember Isha's dances is by remembering the props she used. That is so sad because she is such a phenomenal dancer in her area of expertise. And just a quick point about all the different styles Isha has tried out. As a choreographer I feel, I have seen Isha/Salman incorporate their strength steps, that is their beautiful lifts and perfect bends, in pretty much every so called style of dance they have tried out. It was in their tango, in their afro and all the other styles. That is one of the biggest reasons that now the viewers feel that they keep doing the same things over and over again.


I don't want to compare Ritvik and Reshmi to Isha. As much as I have thoroughly enjoyed and loved Reshmi's and Ritvik's performances, they have an unfair advantage. Unlike Ritvik and Reshmi, Isha/Salman have had to slog it out for a longer period of time, come up with new concepts for a longer period of time, and hence also run the risk of coming out with repetitive performances just like the other two contestants Bharti and Gurmeet.


Isha is fantastic at what she does even though I am no longer wowed by her performances. I would rather see someone take risks and try new things and fail and then get up and try again than someone who almost always stays in their comfort zone. But at the end of the day, I admire her talent and I want her to go all the way to the finale.

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Posted: 12 years ago
esha's acts r good with full of quality , i m bored with *** acts which r avrage , allmost evrything done by shammpa n all that action based act ...vo khuch karta hi nhi hai haath hila ke chala jata hai

only diffrent thing is consept ,look , costume but steps same action based stiff ,posture type ., i saw that wave 5-6 time doing him same wave ...like baar baar new paket mai daal ke same cheej

Please refrain from name-calling. -JDJ5 DT
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: akruz

I am an Isha-Salman fan...so i really wanna see them doing something different..i want to see them using the floor, doing some steps other than these monotonous lifts...they have proved that they can do these lifts really well...Like some pointed out, it was completely ok with them using their best weapon today as per concept...but yesterday they could have done something different...i want to see Isha doing hip-hop(todays performance by Rashmi was awesome), may be laawni, and some mujra...if u see the variations, then i think Gurmeet has attempted more varieties as compared to Isha...i think its high time they switch to other dance forms...

gurmeet has attempted more 😆 when ...only diffrent thing is his act his costume , consept , makeup baaki steps same hotey hai ,stiff, posture, wave kam se kam 10 baar dekha hai that not so clean wave 😆 all action based ...he is base on versetility
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Posted: 12 years ago
people dont have any gyaan about dancing here , they like repetetive action based act n called that versatility 😆 costume n makeup consept change karkey same step dikhaao vo unhey diffrent lagta hai coz they r fan😆

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