FOOD FOR THOUGHT.....are we hypocrites??? - Page 10

Originally posted by: Buffie

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH, this is getting hilarious

i'll have to agree with you on that one 😉

Originally posted by: Buffie

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH, this is getting hilarious...i mean, i say something, you reply back saying something....i again say tha same thing what i said the first time, and you again say the same thing what you said the first time, THEN AGAIN i say what i sadi at first, you say hold your stance, then again i go ........we dont go anywhere.....after 12 pages, we are back at square 1 again...12 pages of debating a waste 😆




YES, but that after i meet them and talk to them personally......after i, in person, talk to both.....bow say i have just received the horoscopes and the bio-data, i havent met them but have heard about them from birdies and common friends.....now suppose, i harbour a preconceived notion.its not a precoceived notion but an opinion that u form based on what u have seen of them so far....just say i feel one is better and the other isnt see this is exactly our situation and here is where we stand ,until I have met them personally,this is my stand that i like what i have seen in mona and havent been impressed by SS but it may or may not change depending on my opinon after i meet them personally and experience.

, based on what i have heard second hand, but only when i personally meet them, will i know about them more, yet not fully.....let me cite an example from my own life......my parents had an arranged marriage, when my mom met my dad for the first time and they spoke a little bit and all that, never did my mom come to know that my dad is so short-tempered, and so moody....and neither did my dad know that my mom is an epitome of patience, but if she loses it,the daylights would be taken away from everyone's faces....so even after a couple of meetings, we cannot size up a person 100% correctly...but here, we're sizing up and defending a person whom we dont even know, havent even met once....thats exactly what i am saying is that our opinions are based on purely what we know or seen of them till now.Now not everyone has an opportunity to meet witrh tv stars or celebrities personally so our opinions can be only from what we have seen of them onscreen .we , because of outr biased nature, chose to assume that everything the person does it right... ...now lets say some W has met both X and Y....W gives me an opinion, but that might not be fully right or wrong....unless we in person meet people, we cannot form opinions....who knows, our preconceived notion might be totally wrong!!..but in our case, we have neither met mona nor ss.....we just have second hand opinions about the two of them, we have heard from people....that's it...and we have just seen them behaving well/badly at functions.....how can we say that our opinion is irreproachable?????.......bottomline, we havent met either ss or mona..I have seen mona singh personally when she came to NJ for the independence day parade and let me tell u ,she carried herself very well and was very polite and dignified...so we cannot take it upon us to
unabashedly bash ss, and unabashedly glorify mona.....tina, are you trying to tell me that just because you like mona, she is perfect???No i am saying that i admire her qualities from what i have seen of her onscreen and hence like her,there is a difference why dont you answer this.....isnt contradicting her ownself wrong?? or are you going to tell me that she never contradicted herself at all in the first place😕

now coming back to the point, suppose i have devoloped a very good impression about X, but the next day, i find something alarming about X in a daily(wow, it would be wonderful if i get proposals from celebrities 😆 ...lol, just kidding..who wants to marry a celebrity anyway 🤢 )....and i realize, that the X i read about, is totally different from the X i thought i knew from adams.......now if i go on and defend X, i would be a hypocrite.see again u got it completely wrong,what i am saying is that what u see as fault may not be a fault at all to some so how do u judge,...in this case its an interview abt X or some statements made by X ,NOW u may take it as a wrong statement but some may think and read that staement in a diff context so how will u judge ? i know it that i like X, but at the same time, i also know that X hasnt done the right thing You dont think X has done the right thing based on what u interpreted of the article or interview but thousands may have interpreted it in many ways and may not fdind it objectionable or faulty at all so its a persoanl choice that u make and believe in ....so what do I do....if i reprimand X, i would be honest, if i side him, i would be a hypocrite....now you might say that X's interview might not be wrong at all, but just the way in which i read it might be wrong, but then when i say i chose to construe a controversial interview with bias, i become a hypocrite...



HEAVENS!!!!!......chosing X over Y, wouldnt make me a hypocrite...but turning a blind eye to X's fault but who decides ita fault,the fault that u see may not be a fault at all to ur sister or ur parents so how do u decide bbecause i like him, but at the same time ruthlessly berate Y because i dont like him is hypocrisy.....i never said liking mona is hypocrisy...but saying that its nothing wrongall i am saying is that i havent found anything that makes me say she is faulty ,again i repeat what u see as mistake or fault need not be the same opinion of others.U say mona contradicts herself and gave wrong statements but I dont feel so how does it become hypocrisy.If i do come across anything that I dont like abt mona did or said,I WOULD DEF comment abt it . to contradict oneself is hypocrisy, when we know it that its wrong!!!

now lest take a real life example ..supose i tell you today that i simply love trekking(which i really do 😛 ), and trekking is my flair.......and then, three years down the line, i tell you that i hated trekking three years back and didnt even enjoy it a bit, what would you think........wouldnt you think, so how could she possibly like as well as hate trekking....was she suffering from some kind of disorder.....or was she lying then, or is she lying now...... wouldnt you ponder over these questions.......would you then say that Buffie was not at all wrong when she said that she loved trekking but now says that she hated it...draw the analogy...i cant make it simpler for you 😕



liking or disliking Y wouldnt make me a hypocrite 😊 but being partial to X, but not accepting it would make me one



WELL, that's perfectly allright....liking or disliking certain qualities in a person is completely your choice.....for EG, some like the sense of humour in a man, some dont..those are personal opinions....but if X so obviously blatently lies, and if everyone arond me are saying that he's lying, but if i construe his lie in a manner favourable to to me,take the case of mona's interview itself,what u feel is alie and contradiction is not for so many others and dont find it as a fault but liking or disliking what she said is ur choice and thats where u make ur decision and then defend him to everyone, i would become a biased human...and if i do not agree that i'm biased, i become a 😛




chosing X or y is my personal choice and even if i'm wrong, its my choice, and no oen can do anythign about it...now tina, lets say hypothetically i like ss(hypothetically ok 😆 , because you know that i dont like her 🤢 ).....now ss' faults no i wouldnt say it as faults but i I dislike the way she behaves and there is a difference.She is entitled to behave or act in a way she likes but liking or disliking that act is ur choice based on whether u aprreciate the act or not are obvious to one and all, but i yet like her...that's my personal choice and no one can comment whether its right or wrong...similarly, we cannot comment on apurva's choice..we are no one to say that he made a mistake(which i have said earlier but regret now).....but just because i like ss, if i fail to agree that she has flaws, then i become a biased human....



AGAIN, i'm not saying that liking or dislikign a person i hypocrisy.....



IT beats me man 😕 , HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLE SAY THAT THE FOLLOWING IS NOT CONTRADICTION AND LIES 😕




now tina, if you say that this is NOT CONTRADICTION, then it proves beyond doubt that you ARE a hypocrite..... what i am saying is tht u say that its a contradiction and do not find it admirable but what if i look at it this way ,ok in 2003 she was undera contract and hence made that statement and in 2006 ,she is no longer jassi but mona an made that statement and i am fine with it so how does it become hypocrisy and who decides which one of us is right or wrong in interpreting what we read



I'M SORRY, i know that we can have different opinions but totally saying that contradicting oneself is not wrong, is just hypocrisy.........i can hold an opinion of my own on khushboo's stand on pre marital sex....i may or may not approve it..that's my opinion and no one can say that that's right or wrong....but if the same khushboo tomorrow comes and says that i never passed any comment, then i wouldnt certainly keep quite and accept it....i would say" you are lying",,you would say that she is lying coz u feel so but what if thats not an issue at all for me or what if i believe that she indeed didnt pass an comment or what if i say that maybe she said this coz she didnt want any more controversy so Its ok so now what to do ...and that's not an opinion, its a fact...now tina, its a fact that mona contradicted herself....and we have to appect it and there is no room for opinions there



NO, i'm not calling you a hypocrite because you like mona but dont like ss....but since we always tend to side mona I am not siding but merely stating my opinion on what i saw of both and till now i havent seen any where i found mona's behavious offensive or bad or her statements which were in a bad light .If i do I would def object to it but if i dont how can i say i do , and masquerade our favouritism in the name of "OPINION", not willing to accept that our choices can go wong at times, makes us 😛


haila,...i thought i wouldnt answer...but keep the debate going...anyways the forum is dead...so atleast these debates will keep it alive
but dont you agree...after a long time, we have a thread running into more than 10 pages and almost hitting the 1000 views mark 😛

yeah I am delighted to have participated in this debate.great writing buffie, U should concentrate on probably a career in writing or maybe study law .

I am finally resting my case coz i dont know how else can i express what i want to say. but i enjoyed this thread 👏

Omg, I don't believe this thread ran into 13 pages and 100 posts!!! We badly need the JJKN reruns to distract us!!! 😆

i say MULTI FACETED.... 😃 ..not multi faced 😕 ...OMG, so does that mean that you agree that we are hypocrites 😉

well, all that's true

but we are not even ready to change our opinion..that's the thing 😛
i'm not saying that we MUST change our opinion, but we are even refusing to hear one thing wrong about the person whom we dont even know...we think that our sizing up is absolutely right, and dont even accept that the person CAN go wrong...we just turn a blind eye to the person's faults 😕 (contradiction was a fault).......i mean, we are so deep into our fan craze that we think whatever the person does is right...and even when there is solid proof that the person is not right, we dont accept it
sorry, but i dont see how contradiction can be justified..how can blatent lying be justified 😕

defending the stars, loving them is not hypocrisy....but unwilling to accept that we always defend them, irrespective of whether they are right or wrong, is hypocrisy 😊

ok, leave that interview, isnt flirting with a married man wrong(ok, we dont even know if its real flirting or not, but since we assume that its flirting and discuss further)....isnt falling all over a married man wrong???? ..atleast isnt it controversial😉

maybe its not wrong as manda might just be good friends like RK and apu...but we decide its flirting, then think why they flirt, how they flirt, what will the outcome be, what ss thinks about it blah blah blah....our imagination goes wild.....now, since we have convinced ourselves as well as everyone else that THEY INDEED LIKE EACH OTHER, we dont call it wrong, when it actually IS WRONG!!!!because we love apu(even though he's a JKG, even though he cant dress, we yet love him) and mona......now, if apu had married mona(hypothetically), and his co-star was SS, and if sanda had flirted, would we have liked it????would the hiten gauri fans like it if RK and hiten flirt???forget about them, would we like it????Definitely NOT!!!!we would tear RK, but we dont do the same to mona as we like her...that's hypocrisy, but no one accepts it 😕