FOOD FOR THOUGHT.....are we hypocrites??? - Page 9

at least accept it...that's all i'm asking
pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee log in as jjknawards2006 and read the pm i sent you and confirm it its true 😉

sorry buffie, but for once, u fail to convince me, 😕
i will say only so much, u cannot compare ms interview which if true ,is totally explained by tina so well and ss interview which is the only reason i said i hate her.

ss by telling about commenting on babies , have hurt so many mothers ,women in general,it is unpardonable 😡 babies no matter which colour, is beautiful in their mothers eyes,

now tell me where is hypocrisy here, if mona had said the same she would also have been as much hated,

JS , why are you again and again saying that ss' comment was wrong.....does it need to be said again and again...everyone uunanimously agreed that that was wrong and we are not defending ss for that

and i am NOT comparing mona's interview to ss' comment on dark babies......where have i said that 😕

now JS, you are sounding as though i said

Originally posted by: Buff

We bashed ss for the dark comments statement but never bashed mona

did i say that😕.....i have repeated it like a COW that that is impardonable...but why arent you replying to my other accusations 😕

Originally posted by: such di

This is totally confusing.

meaning, you do have second thoughts about it 😉 ...it is confusing as you are not able to convince yourself that i am totally wrong.....hehehehehehhee 😆

Originally posted by: such

If Mona swept the heart of audience its not our fault. She is having the quality, which should be always appreciated

i never denied that she is a fantastic actress....but i'm only saying is that she's overhyped.....she wasnt all that great when jjkn started..she improved in 3 years time ......but the hype that surrounded her made her lovable.....we didnt know(or even now dont know) a thing about the real mona..we loved her because of the character she played...it was the character which gave her all the adulation..and when she bitched about the show which made her a star, i lost all respect for her.....now why am i veering away...point is, i never said mona is a bad actress or doesnt deserve to be where she is....but its a fact that she's ovrhyped, that she's not a great mahaatma and has not sacrificed anything that we bestow the demi god status upon her and never accept that she can commit mistakes...and again, dont generalize..not EVERY SINGLE AUDIENCE OF JJKN love mona......honestly, i didnt even know mona's real name till march 2005....mona's name was never there in the credis, or on SET and i wasnt a net freak at that time.....i thought that her name was apoorva , as apoorva can also be a girls name 😆 .....my friend told me when we met at our ex-school teacher's place...and her opinion was that mona is not at all pretty, and that she looks like micheal jackson(now dont kill me for this, this was my friend's opinion).....she loved the show, she loved apu, she didnt like mona.......and there are many such cases..so lets not generalize..its only at IF that these stars are all overhyped, made gods, and are drooled over like mad.......be it anyone, mona singh, apu, ronit roy(i dont see in which angle this fellow looks sexy 😕 ), hiten tejwani(mediocre looking),ram kapoor(jai walia...now from which angle is this guy sexy 😕 ) iqbal(iqbam aint all that great looking, infact iqbal looks just ewwwwww at times).....this fan craze is atrocious and ridiculous.....but RK is hates everywhere, god knows why 😕 ....the kuynki people hate her as she plays hiten's wife, the kasamn se fans hate her as she 's a KMH between jai and bani......their hatred extends even to rakshandha khn, who in real life is not at all a vamp or a home wrecker😕.......its the idiocy of these fans which is intolerable

Originally posted by: such di

must say SS's attempts on several serials could not made her STAR whereas MONA started her attempts in a serial with a most ridicule look but become MOST WANTED STAR

sorry, but shilpa is a star in her own right....she was placed # 3 on the most popular list, mona was no 1, no doubt, but even shilpa is an actress......why do you completely dismiss that 😕 ....and if mona is the MOST WANTED STAR, she must have found a job allready.....jjkn is over, and both apu and mona are jobless...is mona is the most wanted, she must have completed her film..she has just been talking about it for 1 year....if mona is the most wanted, her new serial must have been on air allready/in the pipeline...nothing happened...mona is an overhype, just like sanda...zoom put sanda on # 1..does that really make them #1....NO!!!ditto for mona 😃

Originally posted by: such di

Her chemistry with Apu matches ironically so that they called Dream Couple and we are very keen to see them together. Apu and Mona is most adorable to us thus we want to see them together always

Well, sorry di, but mohir-tulsi, jai-bani, kunal -nimmo, kkavya -njali, angad-kripa(thought the most dumb),mukti prem, mr.bajaj-prerna, kumkum sumeet are more popular as their show is still onair...if jassi and armaan were the best couple, why did sont end off jjkn 😕 .....again, janda are overhyped by us.....go to the kasamn se forum and just look at the adulation ram kapoor( bhooda jai😕) enjoys..you will be alarmed....

Originally posted by: such

Stable relation doesn't need security it's a promise between heart to heart. Showing insecurity is a part of lacuna of a person's self confidence

how can that be a lacunae of her self confidence😕....its the lacuna in their relationship, and not in ss' self confidence.......she is not even too career oriented lika mona......hell, ss is yet employed, aa is unemployed 🤢 ...and its AA who desperately wants to be a part of star parivaar......di, you know, success is short lived.....now however great apu and mona would have been, they will be forgotton by the majority(i'm not talking about people like us who lived jjkn like it was our own life😆...but the general public) if they dont find themselves work soon.......yes, insecurity is not defended here.....but why is everyone(meaning you, JS, tina, blyton etc etc) on a ss bashing spree 😕 .....so just to justify that mona is right, you are bashing SS when she's not at all in the picture...even mona's not in the picture, but everyone chose to bring in ss and mona, and COMPARE THE FAULTS OF SS AND SAY THAT MONA HAS NOT COMMITTED THOSE FAULTS, and thus defending yourselves

Originally posted by: such

I also wish SS to come up with good roles prove herself and win our heart. Unfortunately she could not able to till date but to some extent the role of Ganga gave her identity as actress

i think SS has allready proven her calibre and forte...she cannot carry a show on her shoulders, but she can play an excellent sidekick...she's a good actress, but needs to work on her expressions more....she has proved herself as an excellint second fiddle as in ganga...and i dont think she can prove anymore...if you expect ss to be a mona, its impossible as first of all, ss wasnt overhyped, ss didnt get a show like jjkn where everyone loved the character and thus even the actress is loved, and ss' own behaviour is stupid...so dont ever expect ss to become mona 😊

Originally posted by: SUCH

They are show biz and it's exactly the reflection of their performance, style, look, and intelligence, speaking ability, which creates their identity to our heart

guess what, even if ss changes for the good, we are not going to accept it....whatever she says will be bashed as we are prejudiced and dont even want to change an opinion...ok, so you say that you gauge them by their speaking ability right....so mona gave a very arrogant interview, why didnt you believe that......the answer, you chose not ..why is it that we only bash ss...i mean look at her good points too...have we EVER(MEANING EVERRRRRRRRRRR) praised those....hse's straightforward ....infact soooooooooooo straightforward that she does not know how to be diplomatic and says what she thinks, thus becomming the butt of all jokes.....yeah, she's straightforward, runs for a cause, is loving towards animals etc etc.......i mean, why do we ALWAYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS vilify ss but praise mona????

Originally posted by: such

It well known to all the always-famous people are on the Gunpoint of Media.

yes, but mona is not ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL that famous either that a journalist like subhas jha , who deals with people like Big b, abhi, ash, rani etc etc would go and purposely defame mere television actress like mona.....tell me, why would the media want to defame monna...her show had anyways gone to the bananas, so it wouldnt have been to depopularize the show....mona is not a threat to anyone in tellyland...so why would reporters randomnly berate mona 😕

aahhh, i give up....no point in arguing...we come back to square one every time ...

hey buffie, i think i have replied to every other accusations u made against mona in the previous posts of mine in this thread, 😕 😕 😕

Originally posted by: Buffie

..i never called you a hypocrite for finding someone great....by all means you can!!(ps OH please, great people are the ones like mahatma gandhi, mother teresa etc....why put mona on those pedestals when she's just a mere human, a mere television star whom WE DONT EVEN KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT....)tina, i do not hate mona or hell, i do not even dislike her as i dont know her/have not met her...but i hate and dislike the way you'll people hype her..you'll make her great,youll make an ordinary looking woman a madhubala....mona is just a normal television actor....nd there are many others like her... ....again, i'm not calling your bias hypocrisy....but your unwillingness to accept that you are biased





well, you may not be knowing this, but i fell apart with my closest friend at IF because i didnt favour her when i felt she was wrong!!!and because i divulged something which someone confided in me, we broke up and are no more in talking terms 😭 .....but i , having accused you'll and even myself, can say that i dont favour my closest friends either....and some here know it all 😉 guess what, i have defended mona when someone out of the blue called her fat, ugly and manly......difficult to believe right, but true!!




ok tina, on second thoughts, i now accept it that a few of her statements maybe not wrong but controversial...but tell me, isnt contradiction wrong??...when jjkn started she said i'm just like jassi, then now she says i'm not at all like jassi.....i agree that people change over the years time..but not so greatly also that three years back they were one person and three years later they are not like that person.....agree, drastic changes do happen, but drastic situations lead to drastic changes..and nothing so drastic has happened in mona's life that three years back, she was exactly like jassi and three years later, she is not at all like jassi......no tina, i'm not saying that her getting fed up with the script or her wanting to move on was wrong....but the way she put it"its disheartening to know the jjkn's not ending", "it was a mental torture playing jassi" deserve flak.....earlier she said it was easy playing jassi as she doesnt have to do any homework as jassi was just like her..but then now she said that i wasnt at all like her and it was a torture...such contradictory statements are wrong and you'll tree huggies defend even those...that's hypocrisy

see u got the whole thing wrong again. see u say that her statement was wrong because u feel her statement was not in good light and she lied and stuff but when i read the interview,I am seeing it in different light .in 2003 she was in a contract where she was supposed and compelled to act as jassi,speak like jassi hell she couldnt even say her name was mona.In 2006 ,she was mona who could separate herself from jassi and express herself as mona and the statements she makes as mona is her opinion ,but liking and disliking that opinion of hers is our choice which is based on ur opinion of her.So in my opinion i didnt find anything wrong in her making that statement as mona.She said that it was a torture looking back as she had to wear the braces and it used to hurt her and she couldnt express herself as mona.I honestly didnt find anything wrong with it.sometimes when i look back at things i have done,we feel that maybe we could have done it differently and maybe itwasnt afterall a good experience.I hope u understand what i am trying to say here.




so accordint to you contradicting herself was not wrong....atleast accept it that you read mona with biased eyes,...No i am not at all biased here,the fact is I honestly didnt find anything wrong in what she wrote and said and I Liked the way she expressed herself in a decent,polite way and if u believe the one article where she is supposed to have made sucha statement then why are u NOT believing the statement where she has said that she didnt make such a statement in another leading paper or affliated paper ,why, bcoz u chose so ,becoz in ur heart,U didnt believe what she said but others may believe or may not belive ..any person who reads her contradictons wouldnt defend her...how is blatent lying justified???how could she possibly enjoy doing jassi as well as hate playing it???...she sounded ambivalent.....she never said anything that because i was bounded by a contract, i had to parrot what tnD and tarun taught me and repeat it without even mincing one word....ok, fina tina, i will accept everything provided mona singh comes up and accepts that she has been lying all through because she was forced to and didnt have another choice.....you might again say that she didnt mean it that way, she earlier enjoyed it, later hated it...but she has specifically said that "jassi is me" earlier and "i'm not jassi" later.....how can someone lie so patently about their own personality, unless mona singh is suffering from multiple personality disorder😕




AH, it beats me......how can the following be anything buy lying

2003:i am jassi...i am just like her and do not have to put in any effort to play jassi..i enjoy playing jassi

2006:i am not jassi, i am mona singh...it was a torture playing jassi as people used to think i'm jassi when i was not..i had to constantly remind myself that jassi is not me

😕 how can this be anything but lying 😕 sorry tina, but THIS WAS WRONG AND CANNOT BE DEFENDED...ANY NEUTRAL PERSON WOULD SAY ITS WRONG....so do you say that this is right😲😲..that makes you biased, and your unwillingmness to accept it makes you a hypocrite...

I am repeating again

see u got the whole thing wrong again. see u say that her statement was wrong because u feel her statement was not in good light and she lied and stuff but when i read the interview,I am seeing it in different light .in 2003 she was in a contract where she was supposed and compelled to act as jassi,speak like jassi hell she couldnt even say her name was mona.In 2006 ,she was mona who could separate herself from jassi and express herself as mona and the statements she makes as mona is her opinion ,but liking and disliking that opinion of hers is our choice which is based on ur opinion of her.So in my opinion i didnt find anything wrong in her making that statement as mona.She said that it was a torture looking back as she had to wear the braces and it used to hurt her and she couldnt express herself as mona.I honestly didnt find anything wrong with it.sometimes when i look back at things i have done,we feel that maybe we could have done it differently and maybe itwasnt afterall a good experience.I hope u understand what i am trying to say here.





very good point 👏 but if the vegetable i love is rotten, i will agree that that set is rotten...it will not make me dislike the vegetable as a whole, but nevertheless, i will accept that it is rotten/withered...i wouldnt try to say that the vegetable tasted splendid when it didnt..and if i say that, i become a hypocrite....ok, lets say the lettuc is my favourite vegetable and potato is what i hate(its actually the opposite 😆 )..say the lettuce is withered....and it tasted awful...and my mom had made potato as well and the potato tasted better than the lettuce ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY...just because lettuce is my favourite, i wouldnt say that it hadnt withered....now tomorrow if my mom makes lettuce and potato again, and if this time the lettuce tasted good, i woudl eat it, relish it, savour it, .....but at the same time, if someone tells me that "oh y'day it tasted so awful", i wouldnt disagree

see in the case of vegetables ,we can easily determine which one is rotten and which isnt but these are people we are talking abt.

now let me give u another example,at some point u would have to choose a life partner and as per an arranged marriage u would get proposals from various grooms .Now say u get two proposals from two eligible bachelors(X AND Y) who are equal in qualifications and who are equally charming but u make a choice based on what u felt after meeting them and talking to them personally and their personality or any factor which u are looking for or u find appealing.Now if i argue saying that they both were qualified and they both were equally charming but u rejected this one and selected the other one so u are a hypocrite ,then would u accept it .I wouldnt because of the two , even though both were the same,I found X' ' personality appealing to my eyes or better .Now many would like Y but that doesnt mean they would call u a hypocrite .You may find some things wrong in Y but ur parents may not find the same things as faults ,so how do u decide who is wrong or right in this.so There is no right or wrong in this but u have both the options in front of you and u chose X because of ur opinion from what u saw and felt and u rejected Y bcoz of ur opinion on what u felt and saw.You wont be called a hypocrite ,U would say that u chose x over y and u liked X over Y thats all.

Coming to MS and SS ,both may be equally good as actresses and both may be having their strong or weak points and both have given their respective interviews But i chose MS over SS coz what i saw and felt and looked for in MS appealed to me and what i saw in SS didnt.It depende on each individual,what u found as contradicting and lying may not be the same opinon of mine so who decides which one of us is a "hypocrite".You cant .

you say mona also is human and made any mistakes but what if I havent seen any mistakes at all from mona's side till now .what u find as a mistake may not be a mistake for me so who decides who is right and who is wrong.Thats exactly why there are police and organisations and court who decide right from wrong but in our case ,its just a few interviews and appearances and we have our own opinion on it but we just cannot call ourselves hypocrites because u liked what u saw in one and didnt what u saw in another.

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, i'm tired as its only me debating on this side😆😆.....but its alarming

here i go again

1)mona's flirting with a married man is considered to be allright, but ss' hugging her own husband is bad(i know ss overdoes it, but even manda's affection is pda is some sort..)..when we cannot cut shilpa any flak, why cut mona

2)mona's contradicting herown self is defended when it beats neutral people as to how it could be defended


3)mona's falling all over a married man doesnt raise even a single eyebrow😲😕


tina, in a way you have accepted it....you say that there is no book which says which is right and which is wrong..its all our personal choices...but you know, in the name of personal choices, we try to justify to our own selves and to everyone that something which is gray is white, but not black....we deliberately chose to look at things in good light, which is partiality

this is neverending....so i give up....i have nothing more to say

wow what a debate,I give up too coz i dont think i can expressmore clearly than this .I have updated my post buffie ,u can read my explanations if u want but i can def conclude by saying that i am def not a hypocrite ,I just liked what i saw in MS and dont from what i saw in SS .

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH, this is getting hilarious...i mean, i say something, you reply back saying something....i again say tha same thing what i said the first time, and you again say the same thing what you said the first time, THEN AGAIN i say what i sadi at first, you say hold your stance, then again i go ........we dont go anywhere.....after 12 pages, we are back at square 1 again...12 pages of debating a waste 😆

Originally posted by: TINA

now let me give u another example,at some point u would have to choose a life partner and as per an arranged marriage u would get proposals from various grooms .Now say u get two proposals from two eligible bachelors(X AND Y) who are equal in qualifications and who are equally charming but u make a choice based on what u felt after meeting them and talking to them personally and their personality or any factor which u are looking for or u find appealing.

YES, but that after i meet them and talk to them personally......after i, in person, talk to both.....bow say i have just received the horoscopes and the bio-data, i havent met them but have heard about them from birdies and common friends.....now suppose, i harbour a preconceived notion....just say i feel one is better and the other isnt, based on what i have heard second hand, but only when i personally meet them, will i know about them more, yet not fully.....let me cite an example from my own life......my parents had an arranged marriage, when my mom met my dad for the first time and they spoke a little bit and all that, never did my mom come to know that my dad is so short-tempered, and so moody....and neither did my dad know that my mom is an epitome of patience, but if she loses it,the daylights would be taken away from everyone's faces....so even after a couple of meetings, we cannot size up a person 100% correctly...but here, we're sizing up and defending a person whom we dont even know, havent even met once....we , because of outr biased nature, chose to assume that everything the person does it right... ...now lets say some W has met both X and Y....W gives me an opinion, but that might not be fully right or wrong....unless we in person meet people, we cannot form opinions....who knows, our preconceived notion might be totally wrong!!..but in our case, we have neither met mona nor ss.....we just have second hand opinions about the two of them, we have heard from people....that's it...and we have just seen them behaving well/badly at functions.....how can we say that our opinion is irreproachable?????.......bottomline, we havent met either ss or mona.....so we cannot take it upon us to
unabashedly bash ss, and unabashedly glorify mona.....tina, are you trying to tell me that just because you like mona, she is perfect???why dont you answer this.....isnt contradicting her ownself wrong?? or are you going to tell me that she never contradicted herself at all in the first place😕

now coming back to the point, suppose i have devoloped a very good impression about X, but the next day, i find something alarming about X in a daily(wow, it would be wonderful if i get proposals from celebrities 😆 ...lol, just kidding..who wants to marry a celebrity anyway 🤢 )....and i realize, that the X i read about, is totally different from the X i thought i knew from adams.......now if i go on and defend X, i would be a hypocrite.... i know it that i like X, but at the same time, i also know that X hasnt done the right thing....so what do I do....if i reprimand X, i would be honest, if i side him, i would be a hypocrite....now you might say that X's interview might not be wrong at all, but just the way in which i read it might be wrong, but then when i say i chose to construe a controversial interview with bias, i become a hypocrite...

Originally posted by: Tina

Now if i argue saying that they both were qualified and they both were equally charming but u rejected this one and selected the other one so u are a hypocrite ,then would u accept it

HEAVENS!!!!!......chosing X over Y, wouldnt make me a hypocrite...but turning a blind eye to X's fault bbecause i like him, but at the same time ruthlessly berate Y because i dont like him is hypocrisy.....i never said liking mona is hypocrisy...but saying that its nothing wrong to contradict oneself is hypocrisy, when we know it that its wrong!!!

now lest take a real life example ..supose i tell you today that i simply love trekking(which i really do 😛 ), and trekking is my flair.......and then, three years down the line, i tell you that i hated trekking three years back and didnt even enjoy it a bit, what would you think........wouldnt you think, so how could she possibly like as well as hate trekking....was she suffering from some kind of disorder.....or was she lying then, or is she lying now...... wouldnt you ponder over these questions.......would you then say that Buffie was not at all wrong when she said that she loved trekking but now says that she hated it...draw the analogy...i cant make it simpler for you 😕

Originally posted by: TINA

I wouldnt because of the two , even though both were the same,I found X' ' personality appealing to my eyes or better .Now many would like Y but that doesnt mean they would call u a hypocrite

liking or disliking Y wouldnt make me a hypocrite 😊 but being partial to X, but not accepting it would make me one

Originally posted by: TINA

You may find some things wrong in Y but ur parents may not find the same things as faults ,so how do u decide who is wrong or right in this.

WELL, that's perfectly allright....liking or disliking certain qualities in a person is completely your choice.....for EG, some like the sense of humour in a man, some dont..those are personal opinions....but if X so obviously blatently lies, and if everyone arond me are saying that he's lying, but if i construe his lie in a manner favourable to to me, and then defend him to everyone, i would become a biased human...and if i do not agree that i'm biased, i become a 😛

Originally posted by: TINA

so There is no right or wrong in this but u have both the options in front of you and u chose X because of ur opinion from what u saw and felt and u rejected Y bcoz of ur opinion on what u felt and saw.You wont be called a hypocrite ,U would say that u chose x over y and u liked X over Y thats all.

chosing X or y is my personal choice and even if i'm wrong, its my choice, and no oen can do anythign about it...now tina, lets say hypothetically i like ss(hypothetically ok 😆 , because you know that i dont like her 🤢 ).....now ss' faults are obvious to one and all, but i yet like her...that's my personal choice and no one can comment whether its right or wrong...similarly, we cannot comment on apurva's choice..we are no one to say that he made a mistake(which i have said earlier but regret now).....but just because i like ss, if i fail to agree that she has flaws, then i become a biased human....

Originally posted by: TINA

Coming to MS and SS ,both may be equally good as actresses and both may be having their strong or weak points and both have given their respective interviews But i chose MS over SS coz what i saw and felt and looked for in MS appealed to me and what i saw in SS didnt.

AGAIN, i'm not saying that liking or dislikign a person i hypocrisy.....

Originally posted by: Tina

It depende on each individual,what u found as contradicting and lying may not be the same opinon of mine so who decides which one of us is a "hypocrite".You cant .

IT beats me man 😕 , HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLE SAY THAT THE FOLLOWING IS NOT CONTRADICTION AND LIES 😕

Originally posted by: mona in 2003

i love playing jassi..she is just liek me

Originally posted by: mona in 2006

2006:it was a tortue playing jassi...she's not at all like me

now tina, if you say that this is NOT CONTRADICTION, then it proves beyond doubt that you ARE a hypocrite.....

Originally posted by: TINA

you say mona also is human and made any mistakes but what if I havent seen any mistakes at all from mona's side till now .what u find as a mistake may not be a mistake for me so who decides who is right and who is wrong.

I'M SORRY, i know that we can have different opinions but totally saying that contradicting oneself is not wrong, is just hypocrisy.........i can hold an opinion of my own on khushboo's stand on pre marital sex....i may or may not approve it..that's my opinion and no one can say that that's right or wrong....but if the same khushboo tomorrow comes and says that i never passed any comment, then i wouldnt certainly keep quite and accept it....i would say" you are lying",,...and that's not an opinion, its a fact...now tina, its a fact that mona contradicted herself....and we have to appect it and there is no room for opinions there

Originally posted by: tina

Thats exactly why there are police and organisations and court who decide right from wrong but in our case ,its just a few interviews and appearances and we have our own opinion on it but we just cannot call ourselves hypocrites because u liked what u saw in one and didnt what u saw in another.

NO, i'm not calling you a hypocrite because you like mona but dont like ss....but since we always tend to side mona, and masquerade our favouritism in the name of "OPINION", not willing to accept that our choices can go wong at times, makes us 😛


haila,...i thought i wouldnt answer...but keep the debate going...anyways the forum is dead...so atleast these debates will keep it alive
but dont you agree...after a long time, we have a thread running into more than 10 pages and almost hitting the 1000 views mark 😛