Nachiket; A worst father anybody can have, SHAME ON YOU![05/08/15] - Page 4

Originally posted by: JB-US

No Neil's not responsible for all of the mistakes in his children's lives but he is responsible for a great deal of them.

Nishi did bend in the marriage or she never would've returned. She tried alternatives and Neil was merely one of them.

The misbehavior was there however it was explained justified and eventually would've have ended. Neil is could and is held accountable for intensifying and increasingly the misbehavior. As for mentioning the reasons, I have given numerous in the other posts.

You don't think it's a phase but however I do. Even before Nishi was getting married, Aarav took her to buy cotton candy and they reminisced the moments in which they argued with their mom and came for solace here. This meant they eventually made up and things were well and this was one of those problems as well.

.For crying out loud they're teenagers and there still changing.

Nishi first believed that love was everything but as soon as she settled, she began to believe that love was merely a lie, deceitful, and not fulfilling in comparison to household duties, pressurized motherhood. If this isn't a phase, then what is it.

She's changing continuously and as a child she thinks too quick, falls too quick, argues, and is unable to accept. Eventually she would've agreed with Ragini if Neil hadn't entered, her alternatives were running short and if Neil did not agree, she would eventually give in and later understand when she was independent.

As for Aarav, not a phase? Are you kidding me? He was a teenager who had a huge crush on a girl, who wanted a bike, and wanted to get rich really fast. Do you not see how childish these demands are and why I argue it's just a phase. Realistically speaking, every child wants these things which they first consider necessities but along with time understand that it's unfulfilling, they have to wait and work for it. He was still acting immature and eventually would've come to his senses, loved someone else or something else, and then moved on. Really Neil entered and provided his demands and that is where his mistook his childish behavior for reality.

I already gave several examples and explanations for the reasons they misbehaved and where Neil did not stop them, nor do I wish to repeat them.

Fine, he may not have been happy when she was upset but that did not stop him from salting her wounds or stopping their kids for the majority of the time from insulting her.

Originally posted by: Filza.

I'm talking about later when R did agree but on a condition and yet Nishi will not budge an inch from her stance.

And in my opinion a lot of things they did can not be justified for example calling & inviting your mother's ex husband without her knowledge, humiliating your mother in front of your in laws by bringing in her boss as a father figure for yourself. She ended up inviting her father to live with her without giving a thought to Ragini's feelings. Go figure.

Nishi's perception and opinion on love and marriage have changed but i'm talking of her equation with her mother. Nishi's bitterness with her mom has been forever lasting since the very beginning till date; constant phase in her life if you call it one.

And in my honest opinion Aarav's beavhiour was not a normal teenage behaviour. Taking huge sum of money from goons on interest is something that even 14 year old would not do.

He should have been done with his crush when the girl made it clear she was not interested in him. His demand of a bike must be childish but the extreme behaviour he was adopting with regards to his crush was plain unhealthy and destructive. I dont agree that Aarav would eventually have come to his senses if N was not there.

He would have gone behind R's back to have his way.

When these kids can call their father and meet him without R knowing they very well can do anything else they find right behind her back even if N is there or not there.

Originally posted by: JB-US

I already explained Nishi's behavior regarding the in laws and provided a detailed perspective on that and hence will not repeat it.

That is the equation with her mother for it is not only Nishi's interest of love and overwhelming emotions but also her age that should be considered and her actions which must display an explanation for this type of interaction with her mom. Nishi's bitterness has NOT been a forever thing up to date. Few incidents do not speak for the majority of them and I cannot stress this enough, many of these incident also happened AFTER Neil came and the link always somehow lead to him.

Have you not seen how almost all of the time Nishi had some dispute with Ragini, she apologized, admitted her mistake. Yes Nishi refused to budge from her stance when Ragini announced her decision but what do you think I am trying to explain in the past posts, the exact same thing that it would have subsided. I gave enough reasons and explanations for this already. It was a stubborn act and like Nishi's every other decision would have changed, she is unsure about her decisions and changes them rather quickly. Do you not think it would have eventually gone to that phase.

Aarav's behavior? Not normal?

Okay, let's put it this way, he was temporarily upset him mom that he couldn't get his bike and lashed out at her at the birthday party and then came home to apologize to her. Ragini even said that Aarav tend to get frustrated and angry easily. Aarav had a crush and even after she announced she liked someone else, he was heartbroken but he still desired to improve. Now he wanted to start a business, this is where the Neil interfered and Ragini told him that he will be HEARTBROKEN if it failed. As true to Ragini's prediction and Neil's careless attitude it did. He was still only a teenager who needed to be guided but Ranbir's taunts and showing off shilpa in his face and the overall failure of his business caused him to react like this, any teenager who is confused and millions still today act in the same way unfortunately. His actions were more than justified, he had a strong bond with him mom and the flashbacks are a nice reminder that it always wasn't like this. Now to add on to the add on to his extreme behavior for a bike and such stuff was because he saw Neil's side of the family with it, and Neil's constant providence of these items allowed he desires to thrive in a rather hazardous and stubborn way yet he hadn't still reached those types of extremes that you are stressing solely for the bike which is why he still apologized to Ragini.

Even at gunpoint, Aarav told his mom that you were right, wish I had listened to you, and that you are very nice.

As for taking money from goons, it his friends who suggested it to him and that was where he did not where he was getting himself into. The whole point of him being an inexperienced teenager who instead of being told no was actually led into the candy shop by Neil and told to choose but then ate too much and didn't know what to do. Literally this is like the entire scenario that played out. If he had stuck to Ragini and did not start a business, or saw his super rich dad, it would eventually have worked out.

Do you not understand this? They all are teenagers who were exploring, discovering, which is why I argue that it was just a phase.

Yes they contacted their dad, if suhani and aagham could contact their mom they would too, in fact they secretly flew to india to meet their mom, yet this wasn't disrespect as much as it was just curiosity to meet their parents. As for Nishi, I already wrote in my previous posts why she went to him and that is because they already had an encounter and he had promised her that she will get married to Jignesh irregardless of whether it was right or wrong, her educations, etc.

Listen Neil may not have done it intentionally but he is responsible for majority of the problems in his kids lives and their continuous mistreatment of Ragini.

Originally posted by: Hiphop_R

Filza...i too agree to whatever u have posted...shifting the complete blame on just nachiket is not done. I will not repeat whatever u have been sayin but yes nishi and aarav's characters were very well defined way before N's entry and trust me even if Neil would have said no for nishi's marriage..she had full potential to run and get married and she would have done it. As far as aarav is concerned..he is also no less..if u remember seeing the earlier episodes where shilpa's mom questions him about his status and money..he was so dissappointed that even if Neil was not involved here...he would also go against ragini...maybe not immediately but he would have surely done it..and if not Ranbir..it would have been another guy..cos aarav was so madly in love with shilpa dat he was ready to cross all limits...just imagine when u have ur dad to support u financially..why would somebody go to babubhai..so desperate..so is this also neil's fault??? I'm not even getting into ragini and neil...just talk about nishi and aarav and filza is rite...blame d writers who have sketched their characters dis way