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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Horizon

ASR coming back home after kidnap is one of the most cherished moments. I recall most of us having their hearts filled seeing him enter that RM doorstep. RM was a soulless skeleton without him.

Here is my teeny weeny celebration welcoming the man..
Thanks Kate for the inspiration.
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wenAX7Rxl9Y[/YOUTUBE]
Translation:
You have come, so did the light along with you,
Without you the flame was dying in the embers,
You have given me reason to live,
Life was mostly meaningless before this
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Awesome Indu. Perfect song. Felt it would also suit his return to the mandap during the remarriage, chiraagon se lau jaa rahi thi ... 😊

Thanks for liking my lines for 292. Once I realised what episode it was, the lines started popping up and I couldn't help posting them right away.


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Posted: 10 years ago
Indi, Indu,
I agree they could have written it cleverly taken into consideration all available proofs that could be gathered, but they couldn't, given the pressure and the ever changing story line. The ultimate goal was anyway that Shyam would cleverly discard all proofs and Arnav would anyway believe Khushi in spite of the lack of them.

One more thing I forgot to mention in my earlier post was the will paper safely secured under the baby cot. What happened to those one never knows. Over time, those papers seem to have disintegrated. I thought they would be revealed when the baby cot was being taken out of the room after the miscarriage. But nothing came out. Yet again, during the second revelation when Khushi and NK were doing that drama and the cot was on the stage swinging, I tried to strain and peep to see if the papers are still there, maybe now that they are gonna expose Shyam, the papers would finally show up. But no, it stays concealed. 😲

I watched the episodes again from the moment Arnav and Khushi reach Shantivan in 288 till the slaps in 291. Was wondering, can one surely say that Barun was unavailable and that's why he wasn't given any lines to utter? I felt if he was given some lines, he would have said them, he was there in many shots where people near him were saying continuous lines. So not giving dialogues to ASR cannot be attributed to Barun's absence. The writers just wrote it that way, that ASR remains silent, beyond our patience, maybe trying to make those slaps much more effective by delaying them. Also about why Khushi entered first and then Arnav, that too seems to be only for adding to the drama quotient, to keep the suspense on about what would happen next.

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Posted: 10 years ago
Kate,

Thanks for the videos. That was fun. Now I am thinking, Barun must have got bored standing all the time without any dialogues to say. So, he made the BD stand in his place and sat on the side playing video games happily. 😆
Posted: 10 years ago
D, great point about the will paper under the baby cot. I guess it was suck into a black hole and never resurface again.
I see many of us are extremely bothered that ASR stayed silent throughout that whole ordeal. I agree with you that the writers did it on purpose. Plus I do like the idea that Arnav was listening to his heart with or without the proofs!!
You are welcome. Glad you enjoyed SBB/SBS videos!
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Posted: 10 years ago
Durga,
While there can be many hypotheses to explain that painful silence, I can not fathom/ accept for the life of me that writers didn't have different plans specifically after mention of ANY PROOF at the door step. If what was shown was their original plan itself, they would simply stopped that door scene at where Khushi says its Shyam and he getting shocked.. no need to bring in that line about proof.
Barun was there but not full time as needed. The ones mami hugged and nani held was BD and lots of single shots like the Jan 28th ME...We know that what looks like few min on screen for us is hrs of laborious shooting for them. He was certainly not there to the extent where there could show things completely under asr's control like I am watching dadi's episodes.. they are an absolute treat! When he enters RM every one asks him panicking and he just looks on... almost disoriented.. until mami says he was kidnapped.. I am not expecting him to talk much but asr would have at least assured in his words like "relax every one".. no nothing.. just blank looks..that's not asr for me.. only looks cut and paste to me shot separate..he was much under control in that den with the goons than under his own roof..
Oh yes, thanks for reminding, we all talked so much about those Will papers attached to the crib, at least in the final show down by NK, kh. But here as Indi said they would have certainly left some loop holes through which shyam would creep back.
I would have been actually OK with 1 epi of silence just as if he is stopping for anjali's sake, even after 3 episodes, I would have been at least fine if he plunge into action and slapped soon after Shyam called Kh characterless.. its terrible that he didn't act until Kh pleaded...
Edited by Horizon - 10 years ago
Posted: 10 years ago
^ Indu, the silence for 3 episodes is a bit too much! I cringed at the thought that Khushi was on her own fighting with snakewa. Yes, wanted ASR to act sooner.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Horizon

Durga,

While there can be many hypotheses to explain that painful silence, I can not fathom/ accept for the life of me that writers didn't have different plans specifically after mention of ANY PROOF at the door step. If what was shown was their original plan itself, they would simply stopped that door scene at where Khushi says its Shyam and hegetting shocked.. no need to bring in that lineabout proof.


Barun was there but not full time as needed. The ones mami hugged and nani held was BD and lots of single shots like the Jan 28th ME...We know that what looks like few min on screen for us is hrs of laborious shooting for them. He was certainly not there to the extent where there could show things completely under asr's control like I am watching dadi's episodes.. they are an absolute treat! When he enters RM every one asks him panicking and he just looks on... almost disoriented.. until mami says he was kidnapped.. I am not expecting him to talk much but asr would have at least assured in hiswords like "relax every one".. no nothing.. just blank looks..that's not asr for me.. only looks cut and paste to me shot separate..he was much under control in that den with the goons than under his own roof..


Oh yes, thanks for reminding, we all talked so much about those Will papers attached to the crib, at least in the final show down by NK, kh. But here as Indi said they would have certainly left some loop holes through which shyam would creep back.


I would have been actually OK with 1 epi of silence just as if he is stopping for anjali's sake, even after 3 episodes, I would have been at least fine if he plunge into action and slapped soon after Shyam called Kh characterless.. its terrible that he didn't act until Kh pleaded...


Well said, Indu. That silence was totally inexplicable for me. ASR wouldn't have stood around watching his girl get bullied, di or no di. Its fascinating in a sense, as to how these are written up, to ponder on the logic of it all. Bhagwan jaaney! A professor of mine used to say that when he would ask us something and all of us would be sitting there with a blank look on our faces!
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Horizon

Durga,

While there can be many hypotheses to explain that painful silence, I can not fathom/ accept for the life of me that writers didn't have different plans specifically after mention of ANY PROOF at the door step. If what was shown was their original plan itself, they would simply stopped that door scene at where Khushi says its Shyam and he getting shocked.. no need to bring in that line about proof.
Barun was there but not full time as needed. The ones mami hugged and nani held was BD and lots of single shots like the Jan 28th ME...We know that what looks like few min on screen for us is hrs of laborious shooting for them. He was certainly not there to the extent where there could show things completely under asr's control like I am watching dadi's episodes.. they are an absolute treat! When he enters RM every one asks him panicking and he just looks on... almost disoriented.. until mami says he was kidnapped.. I am not expecting him to talk much but asr would have at least assured in his words like "relax every one".. no nothing.. just blank looks..that's not asr for me.. only looks cut and paste to me shot separate..he was much under control in that den with the goons than under his own roof..
Oh yes, thanks for reminding, we all talked so much about those Will papers attached to the crib, at least in the final show down by NK, kh. But here as Indi said they would have certainly left some loop holes through which shyam would creep back.
I would have been actually OK with 1 epi of silence just as if he is stopping for anjali's sake, even after 3 episodes, I would have been at least fine if he plunge into action and slapped soon after Shyam called Kh characterless.. its terrible that he didn't act until Kh pleaded...


I just penned the same thought some while ago, when the episodes were showing in rerun.
No one can justify ASR's silence or nonchalance. How Shyam was mauling Khushi, not ASR but any other husband would've reacted in the spur of the moment. Barun was not available for shoot and that is the reason they couldn't shoot. But the cvs made the mistake, when they knew Barun wouldn't be available why they hurried for the revelation. They failed and literally tarnished my ASR's personality. bas. I guess this is the black spot of IPK, like I hated when ASR said he never loved Khsuhi before his marriage.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Horizon

Haha indi, he is totally yours, mine and Sohara's.. every one who ever loves him..😊

reminds of a basic Krishna tatwa..
"Belongs to every one.. reachable to none"..


hehe, he is mine and you don't have any idea what i do with him in my dream, oops🤬

What a song you chose to welcome him! Just perfect. But I'm sad why my Khushi is almost missing from your VM!
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Horizon

Durga,

While there can be many hypotheses to explain that painful silence, I can not fathom/ accept for the life of me that writers didn't have different plans specifically after mention of ANY PROOF at the door step. If what was shown was their original plan itself, they would simply stopped that door scene at where Khushi says its Shyam and he getting shocked.. no need to bring in that line about proof. i agree
Barun was there but not full time as needed. The ones mami hugged and nani held was BD and lots of single shots like the Jan 28th ME...We know that what looks like few min on screen for us is hrs of laborious shooting for them. the scenes are full of doubles, full length shots from teh back, sides... he is hardly there... i think he could manage one day and they too several; expression shots then scattered them across two and ahalf episodes. everything felt stilted. the dadi shots are magnificent... every time it is him and not the others... stunning... thank g, the farmhouse is all and only him. He was certainly not there to the extent where there could show things completely under asr's control like I am watching dadi's episodes.. they are an absolute treat! When he enters RM every one asks him panicking and he just looks on... almost disoriented.. until mami says he was kidnapped.. I am not expecting him to talk much but asr would have at least assured in his words like "relax every one".. great observation, they should have smartly shot soem of those too... but really staying quiet for that long, as i wrote before, i felt the exact point in 290 when he would have come into the convderstaion. no nothing.. just blank looks..that's not asr for me.. only looks cut and paste to me shot separate..he was much under control in that den with the goons than under his own roof..
Oh yes, thanks for reminding, we all talked so much about those Will papers attached to the crib, at least in the final show down by NK, kh. But here as Indi said they would have certainly left some loop holes through which shyam would creep back.
I would have been actually OK with 1 epi of silence me too and have said as much just as if he is stopping for anjali's sake, even after 3 episodes, I would have been at least fine if he plunge into action and slapped soon after Shyam called Kh characterless.. its terrible that he didn't act until Kh pleaded... is this even remotely asr? even on the bridge when he is mad at her, on the terrace when he accuses her, there is more emotion, more feeling for his girl... and here? after she has almost died, he will just stand around saying nothing? no, not even his love for di would make him do that.



hi indu,

i tend to think the same way as you on these fairly heartbreaking episodes.

i know what durga is trying to say,

but, durga, something feels abs not asr.

that is the crux of it.

the story can be whatever it is.

khushi almost died just minutes ago... will asr let her go through this?

i can understand khushi's desperation... this man has just trued to kill, burn her husband... khushi who is always circumspect... speaks out. insisting. she keeps telling even di, despite knowing di can't take it.

that was natural to me.

which is why when they wrote khushi brought shyam back, again i felt the oh no, bad writing thing. and ridiculously destroying character. because shyam had touched her, cheated her, tried to kill her, she may be able to take. but would khushi allow in a person who tried to pour diesel on arnav ji and set him on fire?

but that's another story another day.

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