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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: AKAD


Another beautiful poem .Love the gol gappa and gol gappe lane wala.😛

Originally posted by: wiwy

@ Durgey

Moments caught in time...you really plucked the moments so awfully well and presented them with the passion, emotion and humour they deserved.
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Divya, Wiwy,

Thanks for liking the poem. 😳

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Horizon


imagination... without it where would be be... as einstein i think has said, though so many quotes are attributed to him i can never be sure: imagination is more important than knowledge. for knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.

resounding yes, from me too. in fact i was just chatting with my husband, and he didn't think i was a lunatic for thinking people such as asr exist. in fact, i see many of his traces in the person i live with me, there is somewhere a primal male in this character. and that anger... well, anger has been delved into and understood in many archetypal characters as well as mythological ones. i would say there are different types of anger and the wellspring of the anger is important. when it rises in a clean, positive inner being such as asr's it is a raging storm but it doesn't destroy as much as it seems to... it's his way of cleansing his soul when it is too much for him to bear what is heaped upon it. and those who care for him soon enough undertand that and learn to deal with it. khushi became pretty adept with anger... even shyam never seemed scared of it... he knew this man was too clean of heart to ever stoop to his level.

the one i associate anger most with is my mother, i may have said before, maybe that's why i somehow almost trust people who show their ire. but yes, i have also known people who use their anger to create a dark threatening atmosphere in their homes, so no it's not all good news with anger... but if the basic character is clean... it is then a flaw but not one you couldn't live with.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Javeria3991

Outstanding write up 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏
Two years back when i was watching gupta house track, i didn't expect the truth will be out but it did and i think it was a perfect timing to reveal it, to let the anguish, pain all out, to put it all end so that both can listen to their heart because it was only because of "Dil" and "dharkan" for which Arnav took drastic step to marry step though he convince himself that he did all for the sake of his di and didn't want shyam to win.
And the place, the terrace was perfect place for this, terrace from where all the misunderstandings started. Now that everything is crystal clear, its time to find the real truth which is out there. I love it when you connect the truth with the x file quote.
This episode is not my most favorite and i always skip to the terrace scene where Arnav is trying best to not let the past repeat it self because he cannot bear any suicide, another betrayal in love. Khushi is a smart woman who knows Arnav inside out because she has witnessed his shaitaan and Rajkumaar traits of his character and at first i find it stupid when khushi doubt an atheist Arnav for trying to kill her to remove a curse in his kundali and dragging lavanyah in all this but this can be expected from sanki khushi, khushi ka dimaag tu hamesha khraab hi rehta hai but sometimes she crossed the limits and this was one of those scenes. Truly the thought that he loves someone else drove her crazy
The terrace scene was tremendously shock and Arnav acting was stupendous.
I completely agree to this
just as the thought of her being in love with someone else drove him crazy...and made him do something he never would have otherwise... only for her; so did the thought of him loving someone else drive her crazy... and she did something she would never do otherwise? only for him?


hi javeria,
thanks for reading and liking. nut honestly, i could not justify the suicide to myself, despite trying very hard. including that thought you underlined... about him loving la. i think that was writer's most clumsy attempt to look into khushi's heart and "reveal" why she did it...

the whole thing was nonsensical as you point out and elsewhere i have raved about the loss of khushi thanks to this ridiculous suicide idea. exactly, khushi is not so silly as to listen to kamlesh khabri, decide her husband believes in horoscopes and then become mahan and say ok i will do his work and kill myself.

khushi is the vishwaas girl.

even if she believed kamlesh and came up with her mad thoughts... she would never ever kill herself. not the girl i know her to be. it's like no matter what, asr would never assault her sexually... he can drag her to a temple, threaten her with destroying her sister's marriage, throw her out on the cold stone floor... but sexually assault? uh huh. she can mess around with his food, even perhaps drag him for a public bath... but suicide? that too thanks to some strange thoughts?

i think there was severe shortage of imagination and integrity when these things were written. pity. it damaged a fine character pretty much forever. and anyway, now on we'll see khushi's character will be messed with again and again... sad.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ArshiHamesha




Indi , brilliant...👏

The complex man is peeling layers...as wind is touching his visage in the coldness of night with moon out meaning Khushi and her pure innocence is affecting some where inside...
making him calm constantly but as this is pinching him ...he wants to be a good pati...a challenge and deal is set in his mind...A mother is watching over him showing him way through another mother's words...love and affection...IPK is all I have to spend my brain on...

My comments are in between...Thnx


thanks, faiqa,

the complex man is peeling layers as you say, and it is thrilling to watch. i loved what you said in that last comment of yours about just thinking in that way without negativity, and forgiveness comes and makes you light. in fact, maybe that was her real contribution to him, to touch his heart in a way that forgiveness would come to his heart... a heart so choked and full of hurt pain rage and more for so long.

beautiful thought. i am sitting happily with it.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sohara

Episode-241


Arnav is in convulsion remembering khushi's distraught countenance at her friend's query about her wedding. His memory goes back to the tempestuous wedding night, where he coerced her for the six months contract marriage. He bereaved her dream of her perfect dream wedding. He feels like a stranded ship, lost in a turbulence of emotions from where he couldn't save himself and there was no one else to draw comfort from. His heart constricts with scorching pain for the girl, whom he abomiantes for having an affair with her brother in law, who told him to leave his wife, his di. stranded ship in a turbulent ocean... nice analogy.

When he was fighting with his tumultuous thought, Bua comes there to give him his file what he left outside. But Arnav can't find another important file. He thinks Khushi must've hid it; his naughty wife can do any antics to trouble him. He looks for it everywhere in the room and finally finds the peeping file inside his laptop bag. His visage suffuses with an apologetic expression for suspecting Khushi unnecessarily. But can't blame him either, his menacing, naughty's wife's previous record compels him to suspect her. Or moreover his whole life style has become topsy turvy in GH. Because of the wedding there is a complete anarchy in the house. I can't believe that fastidious and martinet ASR is coping up with this mess.

As his mood becomes well again another glittery peeping thing makes him flagrant again. He gets the peeping sparkling gift wrap from the drawer.

"pagal"

A derisive smile glints his face to see the used wrapping paper saved so carefully. But his smile turned to a conflagration when he reads the card pasted on the wrap,

"to Khushi

With love

From Shyam"

His whole countenance grapples with pure loathing and undisguised anger, his nose flares and his breath gets raspy, as he crumples the gift wrap in between his hand. Tremor runs inside his vein. The sheer intensity of rancor leaves him momentarily disoriented. Rage, pain, misery and betrayal twist his very being shredding him to gruesome merciless pieces. A raising inferno inside him wants to burn everything in it's wake now. He must be thinking, their relationship was so deep that shyam gave her gift and could write the letter love, or Khushi must loved shyam so much that she saved it as a token of his love. The air around him shuddered uncontrollably with intense, pure, unadulterated grief and undecipherable anger,. you make me want to see this scene again.

Pause: I was terribly frustrated when I first saw the episode. Instead of fixing the MU, the cvs created new MU. Who the hell keep used gift wrap? I think it was bua who kept it. We know, shyam's camaraderie with her. And she was the culprit who coerced Khushi to marry that nefarious man. I can't forget, how she blackmailed that poor girl to marry that devil!. nice thought... all the writing during gupta track is iffy, this is where story was finally forgotten. they cleverly crafted some beautiful asr khushi moments and waited for trp to come. they completely messed up payal and akash at this point... why babli came and was presented as a scary child everyone forgot, babu ji was rarely seen. a lot of emphasis on asr as good damad and how the gupta ladies love him, all three of them... and then suddenly, from prankster angry khushi she became totally stupid crazy khushi... the whole thing i felt was channel pushing ph and ph pushing writers... someone had said, kitchen audiences come when you show middle class milieus and their wholesome goodness, they had also said, show more of asr khushi and ignore all others... that way, the cool overseas audience will stay while we add new audience from the domestic market... everyone forgot that the story is what keeps and grows audience... i disliked the way rabba ve and asr khushi started getting shown almost as the crisscross weave in the bottega bag as though that is all there was to it. the actors worked with absolute sincerity to make flimsy situations work... very grateful to them.

The groom of Preetika has arrived with his obnoxious mama-mami. Nandini introduces them with Khushi's family, who are more than relatives to her. But dulha's uncle and aunt are not happy with the poor arrangement of the sangeet in small Gupta house. They accuse them for not hiring a big hall for the sangeet. bua says with acquiescence, they will take care of them well. Mama starts his taunt by looking at the small house,

"small colony, so house should be small."

He is not liking that his nephew is marrying a small town girl. Khushi tries to make him understand that it's more fun in small place, so that they all can sit cozily and having a group chat, rather scattering all over the place in a big hall. They get more upset when Khushi serves them juice in steel glass. Khushi deftly retorts them, glass can be broken and anybody can get hurt. She thinks the new relationship should be strong like steel. Bua anticipates their irritation, so she tells Khushi to keep shut and amma tells her to go inside. Bua tells the groom's family that her niece recently got married. Groom's mama banters them,, "in this small house!"

I wish if they would've known she got married his nephew's boss who is one of the richest guy in town.

It's time for groom's mami to show her meanness, she thinks they gave dulhan very light jewelry. Bua tries to alleviate the bitter mood of the groom's family, she suggests the girls to start the sangeet ceremony.


Khushi comes to call Arnav for the sangeet. But he is in no mood to do fun. Moreover seeing khushi there the fire of retribution starts to burn bright inside him. Repercussion goes back to the terrace scene again, where he found Khushi in Shyam's embrace. Khushi's words of telling Shyam to leave Anjali echo in his eardrums. His inside cringes with abhorrence for the swindler, immoral girl who is now standing in front of him. All of his wounds become raw and bleeding again. Seeing his angry state Khushi anticipates something is wrong. She asks him in tremulous voice, what's wrong! Arnav hobbles fast towards her, intends to say something. But the shrill drum beats can't let him speak.

I wish if he could blurt out everything what he buried inside his heart since the wedding night. awww, that is coming na.

Khushi misinterprets his anger, she thinks because of her earlier convo with her friends about the wedding made him angry. That's obviously not the reason, he turns around in frustration. A glimmer of steel slowly enters his eyes, he tells her sternly to leave him alone. She still insists him, what's her fault if her friends wanted to know about her wedding. Her words incite the vendetta inside him. He turns towards her and holds her upper arms vehemently and says her scathingly, unable to hide the rapidly mushrooming loathe in his voice.

"god damn! Isse pehele ki mai kuch kardoo dafa ho jao yahase." He grabs her hand and wants to make her out from his sight. Khushi squirms in pain, she feels as if he would throttle her with his bare hands. Inhaling sharply his abhorrence, she opens her quivering lips to retort,

"bas aisa bata dijiye, yeh meherbani kiyu."

He is about to say about Shyam, but the knock on the door inhibits him. uff not again! The cvs wanted to prolong this MU more. i have no problems with the length of time spent pondering this mu, but the way they showed it... and why this need to present khushi in this strange girly girly oh this poor thing way. she was never oh poor thing... not even when he dragged her to the temple. she raged. she threw the blanket back, she said i hate you. who is this pathetic khushi? there is a fine line between heroic tragic and sniveling pathetic... why drag khushi to this latter angle? remember her playing ankh micholi with op? or giving it to asr before he said sorry? where she recounts how she lost her parents... i felt sad and proud and thrilled, i never thought hai re poor girl bichari. why make her bicahri?

Amma comes there to call them. khushi goes outside, but Arnav shows reticence to come. Amma asks him is he well? He tries to pretend that he is fine. He can't hurt her family because of Khushi, they are such caring and loving people.

The sangeet is going on in full swing. Granny is dancing and Khushi is serving snacks and sweets to everybody. Such a serendipitous girl she is! There must be a debacle going inside her right now, but still she is smiling, trying to do her duty to please everybody. Khushi's friends tease her why jijaji is not coming. Groom's highhanded family get a chance to taunt them again, why their lofty son in law is not coming out, he is supercilious and haughty and all. Their nephew got promoted in a big company but still so down to earth. Bua can't bear the insinuation of her favorite babua, so she goes inside to call him. The shallow groom's family are now complaining about the heat, if they would've hired a big hall then they wouldn't have suffered like this. They want to know are the wedding is taking place in a big hall or not. Nandini assures them with supplication that the wedding will be in a community hall for sure.

Gosh never saw such obnoxious people in my life. I also didn't get it whythe groom's family is greater than the bride's family. Why bride's family has to show reverence to them? don't get me started on it he he, but these obnoxious people exist and oh in many parts of india even today, the boy's side as it is caled, holds sway and the girl's side kowtows. maddens me. mass media is also a way of holding up images that change society.. most of indian televison does none of that, in fact holds all wrong things up as right things. girls always a few steps behind guys, no matter how progressive some serials seenm to be... underlying message is same. here i did find rm really progressive in many ways, including how servants were shown.. a certain realness to rm and a forward looking air which actually does or at least did exist in many indian homes. gh was always a filmi interpretation of middle class bliss. in the early days maybe not and the relationships felt fresh and keen so it was fine, but during this track, everything here felt unreal to me. in the good old days in hindi films, rich was always bad, poor good... gh track reminded me of that attitude created to pander to the masses, who were the audience and who were often not wealthy.

In the kitchen Khushi is cooking something. She looks pensive, Arnav's misdemeanor ravaged her soul. She is also upset to see groom's family's meanness. Bua comes and asks Khushi did anything happen between her and Arnav? Cause he refused to come outside. khushi tries to avert her, tells her to leave it, he has lots of work, so that he can't join them. Nandini comes there also to ask bua where she kept groom's sherwani. The sherwani is in Khushi's room, so they have to disturb damadji again.

Arnav is getting prepared to leave GH. sensible and lovely gussa. He is in so much resentment that staying with the swindler girl in this messed up place is impossible now. While he was telling Aman to send his car, bua and nandini come there and asks meekly his permission to enter. Bua gets groom's sherwani and passes it to Nandini. Nandini is in tizzy whether groom's family likes it or not. Amma and groom's mami also come there. mami is not happy with groom's gift. She insults them again, if they would've known that they are so poor, then her family would've spent for the whole wedding. Amma tries to avert her, she tells her to have dinner. Mami banters, they arranged dinner also! Bua pretends to be jovial; "the food is so delicious that you have to suck your finger." Arnav exasperates to hear that shallow woman's tiff.

He comes out to see who these haughty people are! I think he recognizes the groom, so to confirm it he calls Aman to find out which AR employee is getting married in recent days.

Groom's mama is complaining about the melted ice cream. Khushi says in a quick repartee, if he gets so hot in anger then the ice cream must melt. If he relaxes, the ice cream will not melt.

khushi andar jao and get another ice cream." Arnav intervenes. He introduces himself, "I'm Arnav, khushi's husband.'

Mama jeers him that finally he came out. He tells Arnav to teach his wife how to talk with elders. Without arguing he tells him grimly,

"Koshish karoonga"

Khushi enrages to hear him.

Arnav leaves the place to receive Aman's call. When he was leaving, his eyes go to the crestfallen bride. What he thought? He couldn't see the injustice to the girl, the insult of her family. Where he sees something wrong, he always tries to fix that. after that tempestuous night of his parent's death, he experienced so many hurdles. He saw how people oppressed the weak, deprive the unprivileged.

Determination glints his eyes to teach the groom and his family a lesson. Khushi also follows him in the room. She will not spare him for scolding her in front of so many people. Arnav admonishes her not to confront him or speak to him right now. Remnant of his earlier anger still simmers in his eyes. He doesn't want to create any scene in this situation. He doesn't even want to see her face. khushi also doesn't want to see him, But she also can't let it go. She starts to argue, how he was supporting them. Their fight gets interrupted when Arnav eyes fells on the groom, talking on the phone. He again tells khushi with gritted teeth to leave, but khushi is obstinate, she misunderstand Arnav. she thinks he is also like them, rich, supercilious and obnoxious. She herself will handle the situation now.

Arnav comes towards the groom. He hears that he got fired from the job. The guy gets surprised to see him. Arnav introduces himself that he is his former boss and he fired him, cause he is not eligible to be his employee. The qualities what he seeks in his staffs are, the wish to work hard, the ability to work and thirdly say his words without any inhibition. Arnav thinks he has none of those qualities. Until he learns to respect his wife and her family, he is not needed in his company.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clNY_OVEAgQ[/YOUTUBE]

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hi sohara, great take, love your thoughts on the whole off kilter feel of episode. as i watch gh i am often filled with why? why? huh? really? and then the actors take me to paradise and i lose myself in them.

i have chatted on the post. good to see you writing despite busy ad. why we write our reams i have no idea, but always feels like a good thing to be doing and will give us soemthing in its own way... 😳 some day, jab i am totally grey, and you are this happy chic driving some asr crazy and we no longer meet on a thread in a forum... this will be a cherished experience... i am sure we shall only gain from it.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ArshiHamesha

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YOU HAVE SEEN MY HUMBLE SIDE. TRUST ME YOU WON'T LIKE THE OTHER...

Arshi's Index

EPISODE 240-Part 241


Deferred Dreams ...


"Bhoolna mat kyuonke mein yaad rakhoonga"[Don't forget it because I will remember it.Today our Mr Mechanic's words to Khushi are taking me to the first episode because he never forgets as he never did.In the first epi we encountered his past wounds given by his Chachaji and Arnav took his revenge from him to buy the Sheesh Mahal to throw him out just like he threw him and his sister out of their home.Still He was not at peace, He passed a design to build a hotel on Sheesh Mahal where Anjali's words are coming here in this picture..."tum humara ghar thod doge"?[are you going to demolish our house?] Then Arnav said - "Woh humara ghar tha di, ab nahin hai".[That was our house ,not now] Then Anjali said - "Yehi toh main tumhein kab se samjhate aayi hoon Arnav, lekin tum aaj bhi wahin khare ho, pandra saal ka Arnav apni di ko sambhalte hue andar hi andar sishak raha tha, apne aasoon apne di peh bhi zahir hone nehin diya".[I am trying to make you understand this but u are still standing at the same spot with same wounds which you don't even let your sister see] Then Arnav said - "Arnav Singh Raizada kab ka uss se aage nikal chuka hai aur apne hi dam par waqt ko badal bhi chuka hai". [ASR has crossed all to change his time]

Translation:Anjali:You will demolish this house...Arnav:that was our house di but not anymore...Anjali, this is what I have've been telling you all along but you are still standing at the same position,15 years old Arnav was crying silently by taking care of his Di and never let her see his tears also...Arnav said , ASR has come out of it and has changed the time too...

But has he changed himself, Nope, He never did forget or he will ever forget anything which has any attachment to him.

He never forget his father's behavior towards his mother, his mother's suffering, his sister's wedding attire...and that's why he can forget Khushi's words or Shyam's embrace on the terrace.Deep attachment of him over this WEDDING RELATION , which he doesn't believe according to him but his belief is way deeper than anyone.Once Anjali's marriage broke and today another one is at the brink of that state.He couldn't forget then and he can't forget now. such a deep and human and vulnerable yet immeasurably strong character he is... strong because he faces things and does the best he can to grapple with everything... never runs away. flawed maybe, but clean and refulgent. you are right, he never forgets.


Symbolism and connection: Buaji and Amma is cooking for Damadji by using "Baby corn" and zucchini,With Baby corn , next word was walnut and Buaji said , Zucchni, as chinni ...As baby corn, a maize and immature ,not given time to be fully developed just like Arnav who was way too young to carry responsibilities but Buaji added Zuchinni/chinni/like Sugar .. when the layer is going to be peeled ,a young man with tender and sweet nature will be surfaced up... A big change in a boy in these years, layers with armor shells around as Arnav takes off his glasses when Chachaji witnessed that, that 12 year old boy is not a baby corn anymore... Indeed he has layers over that zucchini /chinni/ sugar nature...My grabber Amma and Buaji's concentration is solely on making their Damaad happy and comfortable, to ease his discomfort and get him to feel at home. interesting 😳 you see the nature and charcter of asr here... beautiful.

Love Buaji who make everyone flee for bothering her Babua...

"Main yeh Repair centre kholne ke liye thayar Hoon"Arnav has agreed to mend all the broken things with associated with their relationship in this marriage but he added two edged sword with it "Don't won't forget because I will not "..telling her that he remember [about Shyam] regardless she has no clue... and at the same time he will not allow her to forget about their love [ when she walks away ].. in terms of his intense feelings and actions and her equally intense anger and sadness and attraction (i wish she were allowed to say she was really angry with him for the way he spoke to her about being the cause of all trouble) i really liked this post kidnap part. though anjali and the rest of story was up in the air.

PONDERING CONNECTED DOTS: Next scene ...gift wrapper and terrace scene is back...and later he never let her walk away from him or breaking any alliance with him...tumhain paa keh rahoonga which will turn...don't leave me ever... even reading it i go dhakdhak.

Pause here:Even without vest he is ASR and never forgets to make a deal with her wife without whom he can't live and above all he can't afford her discomfort when she says she will sleep on the floor"isski koi zaroorat nahin hai..."[man is already regretting making her sleep on the floor] but again she always keeps his comfort upmost at her front "ok whatever you will say" ..Khushi u never learn ur lesson dear...😛 but he really looks cute as a mechanic too. uff he does he does.


Arnav walks away from Buaji being annoyed by her interruptions and lands in a mess. Arnav is liberally smeared in it and stands up on his feet ...Yes in his messy life all the time he stands up on his own feet always.

Buaji who tried to help gets intimidated by his anger ..Now Khushi comes to step out and meets Arnav as Khushi is the only one who can stand in front of his anger. To mellow him down and that's what happens...She comes and says, "Aapko phir se sab se milwanye"[May I introduce you to all] and she also makes him acknowledge that he has become a complete part of her home, her life in one simple sentence when she says'Ab tou Aap Poori tarah se iss Mohalle ke Hogaye hain" ...[You are a complete part of this town]...My grabber is again the community ppl step forward and suggest that Khushi should remove the mess ..Khushi cleans him with all the mess...as water is Khushi...

We have another corn child and she is "Khushi". 😆 😳 She is fortunate because she is being taken care of by loved ones regardless of all the nagging about being orphan.In 226 I refereed to Deferred Dreams of Khushi "Raisins" and after four heartbreaks,today her deepest desire"marrying with Rajkumar " comes in front of her Rajkumar who witnessed since childhood what she dreamt of.

Today again their Grihapravesh comes in the picture... where Khushi was remembering her dreams about marriage while touching the lehenga and that day Khushi needed to live the lesson taught by Amma "Koi farak nehin padta jeevan saathi aacha hona chahiye".. to absorb the shock of her life. Khushi really got married to her Rajkumar in a rush but she still is in obscurity of the fairness of life with her or not. That night the dream of a perfect marriage was shattered but The other thing is when Garima said that you can only know your Rajkumar while spending your entire life with him."Khuch Rishte jee kar hi pata chalet hain..." and that where Khushi is standing now and she will realize this destined relationship after sometime.Sudden decisions are bitter sometimes but gives you sweeter results at the end.

A girl who is trying to find answers and the reasons to the riddle her life has become is suddenly asked to reveal the finer details of it, the pleasures of it .The multimask Khushi who has mastered the art of escaping through smiles fabricates a false story about her Marriage, revealing the finer details, not knowing that this is her yearning and wish of a dream wedding

Today her "Rajkumarwitnessed his Rajkumari's dream of being "Perfect Bride" .She described how her lehenga should be a mixture of green and red[green as for "forever"..Hamesha and red for LOVE... Earrings like chimes as ever lasted sangeet meaning happiness [charoon taraf roshini aur khushiyoon ka mahol" and veil must be over head as protective shield not for 6 months hanging sword... Everything was witnessed and heard by Arnav and couldn't meet his eyes with his soul. Both look at one another through the mirror that is giving a distorted view because truth itself has been deformed and twisted but the emotions cannot be misleading or diverted from it's focal point. Their eyes are reflecting spectrum of emotions... pain , a Loss, muted anger , rawness of wounds twhich are still open and fresh and a sadness at the way their life has turned out ...He cannot face her questionable eyes? He just cannot. He has not only shattered her dreams of perfect wedding but also he is responsible for her broken dreams of a life with her Rajkumar for eternity.He entered the GH with loads of Burden to find the answers of his confusions and today his trunk is heavier than Khushi amd all because if her trunk was loaded with lies , his is loaded with shattered innocence and PURITY which he put in dung by himself.

Here comes "mein yaad rakhoonga" Arnav listened to all these and he will fulfill all of her dreams and will prove he is Khushi's Rajkumar... His hunched and heavy shoulders are becoming heavier with the regret and pain which he had inflicted upon her. He who always said ,I don't not believe in marriage but decided to tie himself up to the girl who believed in it more than ever by crushing her dream by dragging her but still couldn't forget her Sindoor and Manglasutre which she will keepsake for the rest of her life...for her eternity...A distorted view reels in front of him.. She had squeezed her teary eyes when he announced her His "Aaj se tum meri patni ho" but shattering her delicate heart in million pieces..."Par sirf duniya keh liye and for six months..." His devastated eyes refused to leave her alone like that , he turns around as always and shares painful dark moments with her. Rabba Ve is screaming with painful "Duhai"Kyu dard hai itna tere ishq mein?

The pain might have reached their hearts but when the truth will make an entry into their hearts both will be cupping each other's face by realizing that their love has found each other for eternity. and kya kar rahi ho tum? why are you making me cry with that visual on the cliff top?

Arnav retreats and comes to his room while painful, haunting, teary questionable, eyes and words make it difficult for him to reflect upon his own actions where his own remorse and regret are hiding meeting his eyes. His eyes retreat him for a second when Buaji breaks the barrier of his pain through a red file...an alarming sign to retreat from creating softness towards her and keep searching for answers of his own questions ... regardless he is looking at the wrong direction away from the real truth just like this file which is right in his bag but he is thinking of her as a wrong doer...LOve the way file changes from RED to GREY...Yes the mind can't accept and run from the TRUTH...

He is neither probing nor even trying to find the truth, even though it is right in front of him. All he needs to do is make an effort. Indeed Destiny is playing games with Arnav but he is responsible of this theft ,no one else... ...one side he is sparring with anger and the other second his "Paagal" and her antics fetch a smile on his face even in hate he can't resist her.

PONDERING CONNECTED DOTS: since he got married to Khushi. If first his mind sees Khushi being at fault, then the next moment his heart shows him that Khushi is completely innocent.From Sethi brothers to going to chemist with Shyam...From stolen car parts to file in the bag... Arnav is being torn between believing his mind and believing his heart as His mind is always more at command than his heart in such instances.

Destiny has some other plans for him and won't let him forget anything in his case.He is the one who write his own Destiny but can't write or change his cindering and betraying moments of life according to his own wish. He can't even vanquish this golden ,shiny piece of paper which is mocking the Great Mr ASR as the scab of his wound is out and open in the air very well felt. "To Khushi with Love ,Shyam..." and he misunderstood the whole thing again. All he could connect it as her lovely possession given by Shyam... His mind went off to the terrace confrontation and again he believed what he saw. Coming to think of it, I think he is now more bothered about the lover in him than the brother in him. His possessiveness is growing. The wound reopened awakens the rage at why Khushi is not able to love him and why he cannot love her..

Symbolism and connection: Grey file in the bag represents the truth hidden but also Arnav's state of mind where "mein yaad rakhoonga" where he sees Gift wrapper as a Khushi who is labeled by Shyam but as a possessive lover he wants to see his name on this label. Don't forget Arnav is deeply in love with Khushi but for Khushi to fall in love with the mighty ASR completely... she has to see the hidden pure Arnav inside him. The GH track is for Arnav to be revealed to Khushi or Vice versa!

Just as his Heart had started to believe in Khushi, his Mind overpowers his Heart to prove that his Heart is still weak, fragile, hurting, again still vulnerable... The action of crushing the wrapping paper signified the way Arnav's heart was crushed mercilessly in a slow, heart-wrenching, painful, crumbling, and tightly clutched method . Arnav's eyes and body language is probing a wide range of spectrum of emotions today and no doubt this character ASR is alive because of Barun...hats off to him...


We are beginning to see Arnav restraining his impulses these days especially for His Khushi. As he has learned by now that his Mind is betraying him with regards to Khushi's character. He can't put his finger on it yet, but he is aware that he is mistaken about Khushi's nature. His gut feeling is churning confused thoughts in him - his Mind's 'sights' about Khushi is attacked by his Heart's 'encounters' with the true Khushi. When Khushi walks in and enquires about the reason behind his anger, he tells her to go out of the room before he can say or do anything that he may regret later.. She connects it to what happened earlier and tries to coax the matter but he drags her out holding her arm painfully which transfers through her face.

He has faced so many 'regret incidences' regarding Khushi now, that he is no longer sure whether to believe his Mind.However, pushed by Khushi to know the reason behind his anger, he is about to let her know when they are disturbed twice - first by the 'dhols' and then by 'Garimaji'. It kills Khushi thousand times seeing him in pain just because of her as she is assuming here.She doesn't know the reason by herself and that's why it was hard for her to bring smile on her face while Buaji was inquiring in the kitchen. As Arnav said earlier "I will remember and will make her remember too" " mein yaad rakhoonga" ...He can't forget pain and he won't let her forget either...




i found this collage stunning... a man with a story and the girl we don't see, who will complete it.

beautiful take on yaad rakhoonga... it is all about memories, this tale at one level isn't it? cherishing them, yet needing to move beyond them... and in that scenario the flashback structure fits in so well.

he says later how his memories slowly started getting replaced by another set of memories... of moments spent with her... i am getting goosebumps. this story has such a strong visceral core. he never forgets... so darkness traps him... she comes with rays of sunshine and slowly those rays start to be remembered and the darkness lightens... a process of healing, of redemption , a magnificent man and his memories... and the power of love to create memories of happiness that are as potent as those of pain and bitterness, then they grow even more valid, and bring joy back to a heart that is rich and pure.

i loved your yaad rakhoonga theme... it opened a door somewhere. that dialogue of his to khushi during telepathy became even more beautiful.

when i wrote the first line below the collage i had not read your take yet... by the end of it, i could feel exactly how she will come and complete this man's story. thanks for that.
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Originally posted by: wiwy

@ Faiqu

I read your write up on the first page again today. Bas aise hi and thought the tender, soft, yet beautiful touch of a butterfly can colour your world. That was deep Faiqu, what you said in words and edits. Sometimes the smallest of actions can speak louder than words. Anjali was right in her advice to Khushi,if you openly express your love, Chhotey might not accept it, but small gestures can make all the difference.
Thanks Faiqu. that was mesmerising again...


Thnx wiwy ,Glad you enjoyed it.That underlined is so so true in his case.👏
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i found this collage stunning... a man with a story and the girl we don't see, who will complete it.

beautiful take on yaad rakhoonga... it is all about memories, this tale at one level isn't it? cherishing them, yet needing to move beyond them... and in that scenario the flashback structure fits in so well.

he says later how his memories slowly started getting replaced by another set of memories... of moments spent with her... i am getting goosebumps. this story has such a strong visceral core. he never forgets... so darkness traps him... she comes with rays of sunshine and slowly those rays start to be remembered and the darkness lightens... a process of healing, of redemption , a magnificent man and his memories... and the power of love to create memories of happiness that are as potent as those of pain and bitterness, then they grow even more valid, and bring joy back to a heart that is rich and pure.

i loved your yaad rakhoonga theme... it opened a door somewhere. that dialogue of his to khushi during telepathy became even more beautiful.

when i wrote the first line below the collage i had not read your take yet... by the end of it, i could feel exactly how she will come and complete this man's story. thanks for that.

Thnx indi😊

That pink...is the key and that is what these two are making till they both reach to the point where any fault, or accusation will remain in between them.The new memories are going to take the place of old and rusty ones and then the process of cherishing will take place.

She is healer in all ways...his denial is bringing more pain but at this point his acceptance is becoming poisnous, why the hell he loved a girl of this low character.Once he will cross this bridge , then the road will always be ending at her door...

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EPISODE Part 241-242

Frozen Scream...


Arnav has always believed in the institution of marriage and today he proved that as "Patni or uski family ki izzat karna sikho"..acc to him it is husband's duty to protect his wife and her family and their happiness as a strong foundation upon which these relations can flourish freely and fearlessly even his own family lacks in these qualities.His character has been proved the following,

First , Arnav has a very strong sense of "sahi"[right] and "Ghalat"[wrong]. He always let his emotions down to do what is right. Today he gulped his anger and jumped in to solve the problem of a stranger girl "preeto" as he recognized her pain because he had shared that pain when his sister's marriage had broken the first time. He's been carrying this burden since then but that day he couldn't do anything and paid a heavy price for those broken dreams but he wanted to fix things today. He has saved his di and Payal's marriage by sacrificing his own dreams already.

Pondering connected dots:This proves that ASR would never break his marriage and he would definitely not stop a marriage on its wedding day and that's exactly happened.This is Arnav who has been trapped in the cruel moment of time and couldn't get out of that scream of his past life but that scream is keeping his Faith alive as the day one under the protective and fragile shell of ASR.

Second,this shows why he can't forgive Khushi because his belief has broken by none other than the person who he thought had the same beliefs like him that marriage is for life... "Yeh duniya ka sab se pavitra rishta hai ...jab koi kissi keh saath puri zindagi guzarne ka waada karta hai...", That's why, she is a bigger culprit is his eyes because what he heard on the terrace " tou aap yeh shaadi tod kyuon nahin daite"... She demanded to break the very promise which Arnav believes a husband must keep for life...to protect his wife from all and safeguard her dreams and happiness at all times.That's why, it is an unforgivable sin that she committed on that dreadful night "chap gaya hai..."very interesting thought Faiqa


Third, He believe that husband should protect his wife and her family and he always did this in Khushi's case in front of the world no matter what kind of relationship they have inside their room. Mooh-Dikhayi is one of the example. Yes, he has insulted their marriage many times inside their room just because he thinks, that she is not faithful to their marriage and is having an affair with his Jiajaji.He has never been disrespectful towards her family. Even today, in his rage he, was calm in front of Gayatri and Buaji. I was really proud of him on mooh dikhai day. Many times in shows they show a strong hero but when the times comes he doesn't speak up against his elders siding with his belief or his love. Arnav had the courage can conviction to alwasy do what he felt right without disrespecting others. Also this is why I feel bad when Khushi unintentionally makes fun of him in from of others. Like in the generator fixing scene.

This is why, Khushi said... "Mazboot Rishta". Like the relationship between Arnav and the Guptas, or Arnav and Khushi. Yes, Arnav is aggressive but he is educated and principled and this is why he taught the groom a lesson on "Acha pati " which is bothering him and he wants this Reward for himself.

nice collage. This lehenga I really like.

When he entered the room, there was guilt and the moment he saw the wrapper, he confirmed himself about the guilt that he had a right to crush this girl's dream which he never even had a dream to do that. He had to as he had no other option.


While Khushi , fav child of DM who lives for her family and it's happiness sometimes at the expense of her happiness .She believes in doing the greatest good for the greatest number for all!! Today with her open mouth, Khushi did not realize that she was actually harming Preeto's relationship. She meant well, no doubt about that - but did she realize that how would it be taken by the Groom's family!? Nope - she did not. She forgot that in middle class families - one does not question the groom or his family.While Khushi was directly approaching the Groom's family, Arnav Singh Raizada hit directly at the nail .This also shows how she has been affected by Arnav's attitude and molding into it. . hmm you have me thinking. But she did go to the groom to save Payal's wedding as well.

While other side Arnav was ready to leave because of his lack of patience with Khushi but seeing the situation ,he takes the command to sail this ship but without coming to the front like Khushi.


Pause here:This reflects that Khushi kept the secret of Shyam regardless her intentions were right yet poor decision. Today she is responsible for the mess she is in . She could have saved herself, Payal and Anjali from the upcoming and brewing danger.Now Arnav is at a grave fault too regardless he thinks Khushi has messed up and his has saved his Di's marriage by marrying Khushi. But then again it's wrong. Yes both are at fault. Long time back in one of her analysis Indi had cited the example of Geeta. Both will have to bear the fruit of their actions. But when I was watching the episodes after the terrace fight I miss the fact that khushi is not shown being guilty about hiding Shyam's sach from Arnavji. It would have been nice if she admitted that it was a wrong move even though her intentions were for a good cause.

PONDERING CONNECTED DOTS: On new year's eve ,Arnav had said to Khushi in her room " Yeh Duniya utni hi bedard aur pather dil hai jitni keh phele thi " and today Khushi is witnessing those pather dil people who are not thinking for a second for the girl and just want to break the marriage.Anjali's words to Khushi "unhain pyar ka ehsaas hona bhi zaroori hai...phir apko who alag Chote nazar ayengey" ...This is what Khushi's love have done to him and today he came out and stood besides her again when Mama and Mami were humiliating his Khushi.Her unconditional love is reducing the Great ASR.


Buaji and Garima have been a witness to Arnav Khushi bonding on the dance floor again after dining table "golgappa" scene. These two mothers are witnessing their kids's deep love and affection for each other especially Garima who is observing Arnav like a true mother and that's why here connects " Baby corn" ...affection of mothers. I really like Garima and Arav's bonding.


PONDERING MOMENT:This is reminding me of Holi dance When Khushi was dancing joyously and Arnav was drawn towards her "She is beautiful" and came closer to her to bring her closer to his heart but then freed her to let her enjoy her freedom...Which led her to a confused confession "aisa Kyun hota hai ", the words of which she did not understand...Today..He was standing alone seeing her dancing freely but his painful throbbing heart wouldn't let him join her.DM has her own plans, His steps follow his heart towards his enchanted diva who is dancing in others happiness and his inhibited heart is joining her keeping her gazing at her waiting her to yearn the very same as he does...The moment he stumbles she gathers him in her safe circle of love to show him she will never allow him to fall and that's exactly is going to happen during kidnapping "Arnavji hum aapse wada katre hain ...hum aapko sahi salamat ghar ley ayengey " so sweetly written Faiqa! I was reminded of Holi too.

Arnav's possessive mind immediately switches on to the image of Khushi in Shyam's arms and aching heart convulses leaves her stranded alone in that circle of love and walks away pushing her away from him which made her baffled about her.

Khushi comes to the kitchen and overhears that this marriage happened because of Arnav. This is a relief moment as Khushi got her first realization with monologue" Hum inhe kabhi samjh hi nahi payenge..."Ek insaan ke do chehre - kabhi shaitaan, kabhi rajkumar"[I will never be able to understand him.One person with two faces...Sometimes Beast and sometimes Prince]

Khushi has seen both the faces of Arnav now and before and she knows him more than anyone, but her understanding is at the beginning stage because of his layered and complicated character.If yesterday's episode was about Arnav's war of his heart and mind [sahi and ghalat]..then today it is Khushi who is having confusion between her heart and mind. She has seen two faces of Arnav and both have made disastrous impact on her. One has made a deep space in her heart unknowingly as her Rajkumar and the other resides in her mind as Shaitaan!


PONDERING CONNECTED DOTS:Arnav among pigeon helping a little girl to get her wishes...Again today Arnav got a girl her wish, her wedding with respect.Both times Khushi is witness... her confusion of that day "jo jaisa hai wo waisa kyuon nahi dikhta..."[why person doesn't act the way he looks like and seems to be]...is becoming now "yeh aise kyuon hain..."Why is he like that?]

Here also comes Arnav's words,"Sapno ki Duniya se bahar niklo KKG" ...She has to come out of this illusion of Prince charming and here comes Amma's words, "Jeevan saathi acha hona chahiye ..." She has to understand that Rajkumar is not always on white horse like filmy heroes ... and the day she will accept that she would have understood in totality who Arnav Singh Raizada is and what makes this man. Today was again the beginning of her confusion seeing him making another man a better husband while himself is not one. The difference shown excellently which her mind pricks for her to get that answer from him on why he married her.


The golden dialogue of this epi..."Ek Pal main inpe itna Pyaar ... aur doosre hi pal mein inse kitna darr lagta hai "...Again without acknowledging it she said something so important and true fact of her life , the very reason of her loving him unconditionally. She loves him because he is her, her reflection...Pure and innocent ."Arnav aur Khushi khabi alag nahi ho sakte" will come way later but it was always there...She is scared of him because she knows she did something unforgivable and he hates lies.He is unforgiving and when things will appear in front of him , she won't be able to bear that HATE and REJECTION of him and that's what she is afraid of and the day she will figure this out she will accept him with whole heartedly.

Million dollar question..."yeh aise Kyuon hain ?.."This will will lead her to the truth ... later she will ask him directly "aap aise kyuon hai" and his answer will be... "tum janti ho keh mein aisa kyuon hoon"

Khushi comes to her room and while changing her jewelry, her mind gets busy thinking about recent events.Garima comes in to chat with her daughter as "maa ki ankh khabi dhoka nahin khati" ...because seeing them on dance floor and all of the other events , her gut instinct is looking for answers of her bubbling questions. Garima begins with the positive qualities of Arnav to Khushi "who dil keh bhat saaf hain "...

Pause here:Arnav asked Khushi "Kya meri Maa mujhe dekh kar khush hai..." as he knew that his Mom would not be happy with the way he had turned out but he never knew one day a MOTHER will be saying this for him "Dil keh saaf" [clear at heart...]... as he didn't hear it while Garima was sayint this to Khushi...just like Khushi did not need mom's letter he didn't have to hear that either, A true PURE stars' talk which remains in between em ] Absolutely lovely thought Faiqa! Am reading it on mother's day and am blinking back tears.


Pondering connected dots with symbolism :Khushi in front of the mirror removing her jewels ...Mirror reflection meaning reflection of your soul ..and jewels are associated with vanity ...Khushi's talk to her DM accusing her after marriage for not protecting her child and from now on she does not need her help but does she ?.. today she begins to remove the jewels , her vanity is at peace after witnessing the kitchen scene for a moment...and she was entangled in between her heart and mind when DM sent her aid in the form of her Mother !!

Garima told her before Payesh wedding, "Jeevan saathi ach hona chahiye"...Here connects Arnav's mother's letter " humare chote ke naak pe bahut saara gussa raheta hain, aur dil mein bahut saara pyaar"...That's why Khushi never needed that letter to read because she is reading the inscription on a PURE heart who resides in her all the time with her own eyes from his face and actions since from the beginning. The wordings of the letter is so simply and touching. Someday I want to be such a nice mother in law. My husband keeps laughing whenever I say this but maybe I will be a nice amma to my bitwa 😆..

Pause here:Here comes "Kabootron keh saath sona pade ga...". Mothers are playing the pigeons' role and If Buaji told Arnav Khushi's qualities, Garima is telling Arnav's attributes to Khushi ,


Garima is again giving Khushi a wisest advice 'Farak hai to tum dono keh jatane keh tareeke main '...to make her understood that love comes in different shapes and ways.Today she is being taught that Arnav may not be her fairy tale prince but he will be her "sab se ache patti" ...All Khushi has to do to open her heart to accept him the way he is "mein aisa hi hoon"...[I am just like that]...Khushi listens all in silence. Then suddenly she smacked by a reality when Garima hesitantly and fearfully tells her ," "par pata nahin ek anjaani ankahi khalish dikhayi daiti hai tum dono ke beech" "[that she sees a distance in between them] .She seeks an assurance from Khushi, "Khushi sach bata tu Khush to hai na" ...

Khushi with tearful eyes looking deeply at her face "Hum khush nahi hain...(seeing the shocked expression on Garima's face) Balkeh hum bohat Khush hain..."That is Khushi who manages to hide her pain behind her words and smile and at this moment the only person who could see through her and understand her was Arnav because he was the reason of it. And I felt she also did it because she wanted to keep Arnavji's image infront of Amma.

She hides her pain successfully and lists down everything that she would actually want Arnav to be liked and what he is not. Arnav knows her pain and understands it. He is a witness to this purest moment of mother and daughter and he can see through the lies that Khushi tells Garima and more than that.He can again see that he has crushed a pure heart who he loves the most by finishing all her hopes of living a happily ever after, He has abrogated all of her dreams of having a perfect husband. Guilt and regret is sending a sheen of tears as he listens to the girl whom he torments , praises him, smiles for her mother and tries to assuage her mother's fears.This is an awakening moment of him that she smiles for the sake of others that this has become her part of life and not an act as he accused her off..."Janta hoon acting karne main tum mahir ho..."[I know you are good at acting]

That is what does not let him sleep at night. However much he may want to hate her - he may want to destroy her - he may want to finish her - he cannot help but regret his actions and now he is not even trying to justify that what he has done was right. The reality is seeping in him - he has spoiled her life - and he is guilty. Makes him human and an inspiring character at the same time.

Pause here: Loved that the door was opened behind him...HOPE is still there,FAITH of her that Arnav will emerge as a good husband.

As 'Duniya ke sabse Achcha Pati '


"It hurts to breathe. It hurts to live. I hate her, yet I do not think I can exist without her." 👏👏
"Charlotte Featherstone, Addicted "

Pause here:Yes he couldn't fix all the machines but one generator and couple ...because he couldn't fix his mother's life or sister's marriage but he will be able to fix his with Khushi by his side after being cleaned from all the mess[gobbar] in which he is covered but gets cleaned by Khushi's PURITY[water] .He will be the best husband that anyone could even imagine.


I had liked the episode Faiqa but I liked your take even more. Right from your heart and it touches my heart multiple times. After a long gap we got a Khushi who was feeling real emotions. Not just hiding behind games and smiles. That itself was refreshing. Also like you mentioned the pigeon incident when she had got a glimpse of his kind heart today also she needed a reminder that he is not all bad. She has seen his loving caring side, but as her defense mechanism kicked in she chose to ignore it. Same with Arnav.

The quote you selected is perfect! Intense but real. Once you love someone it is like an addiction. And if the relationship is positive then it will make both of you better, happier people.

Enjoyed a lot! More comments in green above.

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