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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Horizon

Cynth, loved your take. Just reminded why I wanted to bang my head those days.. aww.. cant see this nose dive in the quality of epis, characters! If ASR is NOT anything that is being CHEAP.. playing silly tricks... as worse as it sounds.. even his hurtful ways are KING size!! Poor Khushi wouldn't get this??!!
thanks Cynth for the dig. Enjoyed.

Horizon we have to make the best of every episode no matter how bad our story gets we have to find them!!! Thanks for reading and your comments.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Horizon

Some very cynical thoughts about Holi:
Before going to the disappointing ones, a few things I liked tremendously during these few days in Arnav- Khushi's life..
Holi episode started with one of my most fav Khushi lines "Aap ko e business- business khelna accha lagtha hai na" (you like to play business- business all the time) .. one may wonder, get confused, find it most weird what Khushi did at times.. but some of her lines, her sense of humor is impeccable.. her naivety and purity reflecting in that small piece of paper..
These episodes brought the tenderness in Arnav and Khushi like never. Khushi had been boggled with these dhak dhaks right from Day 1. Finally that day had come, and it needed a total drunken state, for their brains to get shut off and they being fully taken over by their hearts... Khushi was finally able to pose the question to the man who is the first authority to answer that and who has been sailing in the same boat. It was truly heartening to see this constantly bickering couple, to have a heart to heart talk for once, the ambience, the mood.. that confession finally happening where they shared many a special moments, that pool side.. he taking care of her after laying her down on the lounge chair as if she is the MOST precious thing ever happened to him, and that he can't bear the sight of a faintest smear on her..the contentment, joy, relief in her eyes as she found the answer she was looking for long now... then his gentle shaking of head NOT letting her go... that could make one to go through a quick trip to heaven... isn't that what he always wanted to say/ do.. NOT letting her go for a second...ever since she said "Luknow ja rahe hai hum .. hamesha ke liye"... aww that is THE moment for the entire confession for me when he wouldn't let her go...then he would say most softly "I am waiting"... very much reminiscent of his "Mei intezaar kar raha hun" on that fateful day he would come to know about her engagement... full of yearning...
These few days have brought some of the most beautiful moments between them... yet they could n't gel with their overall love saga for me!!!:( ...They would both relegate them the very next minute as if nothing happened... while earlier a simple flutter of dupatta, a miss here and a caress there, a gentle gust of wind... every little move added so much fuel to the intense fire raging in them... where as the inferno right here would be extinguished in no time... and neither would bother to even search the ashes for any clues to clear their misunderstanding! Utterly disappointing!
WE knew even most of the earlier moments were created for drama but even then they were endearing as every little bit added up to their emotions. This one created for a certain purpose.. Holi.. remained only a drama, that would take away essence of this whole confession and couldn't remain as memorable! :(
I am glad that posting this on the fag end of the thread without spoiling the mood of the thread at the start.



i am glad you brought this up.

i don't know if i read you right, but for me too after the magical days of a holi, on the squeeze of a nimbu to forget everything and then veer into a completely unknown direction where suddenly sensitivity simply disappeared was very very painful.

some things i'll never forget or understand... khushi dragging him out of the house for a bath at the public tubewell... a strange insensitive side to her which is not her at all. and here on really apart for stunning bits and parts scattered across, ipk is going away from me. it was just plain painful.

till now, dramatic or not, silly or whatever, from the first meeting to this holi there is a progression of real, volcanic attraction. it does happen between people... there was a paying attention to the stages of it, an understanding... yes, people don't fall and catch, yet at some symbolic level they do... we feel all sorts of things outside the described dimensions... and that feeling grows till you get that this is it feeling. all of that was so lovely... even the wedding which came because of the channel, a writer tried to give layers to, the idea of love going through hell came through. then the few short days before holi where a delve into chot to some extent... then holi.

and then?

it was hard. story went all over the place, i ran like crazy trying to get a handle on it. trying to stay calm, because i so wanted to see this show. 27 march in sheer frustration i came to the forum. khushi was well on the way to becoming a marionette by then.

you know, horizon, i have never hoped for a fiction, a show of any kind, as much as i hoped for ipk. every time there was the slightest sign of beauty, i thought, ah story coming back... but ultimately, nothing... just a haphazard series of episodes. oh that kidnap... it finally meant nothing. bubbly, masala mama, what were they? no look into the contract marriage, why what, resolution, nothing. suddenly a change of lead writers and dadi si foisted on us. and a meaningless remarriage for all the wrong reasons. would the asr we know even agree to such a thing under coercion? nothing made sense. i was stunned by the lack of any responsibility on part of writers. i am a copywriter... somehow it hurts when you see the abject lack of interest on the part of a writer. no integrity. none.

two actors and a director valiantly tried to keep it going by being as true as they could be.

to them is owed the next phase of ipk really.

even the audience was blamed... for wanting only kkg asr. but was there anything else to want? was anything developed? i'd happily watch payal and akash's story if you had one. or the thing between anjali and shyam, how she slowly gets the truth... or sheesh mahal... or anything... a real story. nothing came.

and finally even kkg asr was completely forgotten.

funny what a conscience or integrity free space this became.

sorry, i do feel sad. one of the reasons, i don't feel like writing these days i guess.

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Posted: 11 years ago




missed him like crazy today. a couple of edits, just had to post here of course.



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Posted: 11 years ago
~Indi~
Nice edit of our man.
It's really depressing that he is not shown in the screen for a while. Only God knows when he is coming back to rock our world!😭

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52



i am glad you brought this up.

i don't know if i read you right, but for me too after the magical days of a holi, on the squeeze of a nimbu to forget everything and then veer into a completely unknown direction where suddenly sensitivity simply disappeared was very very painful.

some things i'll never forget or understand... khushi dragging him out of the house for a bath at the public tubewell... a strange insensitive side to her which is not her at all. and here on really apart for stunning bits and parts scattered across, ipk is going away from me. it was just plain painful.

till now, dramatic or not, silly or whatever, from the first meeting to this holi there is a progression of real, volcanic attraction. it does happen between people... there was a paying attention to the stages of it, an understanding... yes, people don't fall and catch, yet at some symbolic level they do... we feel all sorts of things outside the described dimensions... and that feeling grows till you get that this is it feeling. all of that was so lovely... even the wedding which came because of the channel, a writer tried to give layers to, the idea of love going through hell came through. then the few short days before holi where a delve into chot to some extent... then holi.

and then?

it was hard. story went all over the place, i ran like crazy trying to get a handle on it. trying to stay calm, because i so wanted to see this show. 27 march in sheer frustration i came to the forum. khushi was well on the way to becoming a marionette by then.

you know, horizon, i have never hoped for a fiction, a show of any kind, as much as i hoped for ipk. every time there was the slightest sign of beauty, i thought, ah story coming back... but ultimately, nothing... just a haphazard series of episodes. oh that kidnap... it finally meant nothing. bubbly, masala mama, what were they? no look into the contract marriage, why what, resolution, nothing. suddenly a change of lead writers and dadi si foisted on us. and a meaningless remarriage for all the wrong reasons. would the asr we know even agree to such a thing under coercion? nothing made sense. i was stunned by the lack of any responsibility on part of writers. i am a copywriter... somehow it hurts when you see the abject lack of interest on the part of a writer. no integrity. none.

two actors and a director valiantly tried to keep it going by being as true as they could be.

to them is owed the next phase of ipk really.

even the audience was blamed... for wanting only kkg asr. but was there anything else to want? was anything developed? i'd happily watch payal and akash's story if you had one. or the thing between anjali and shyam, how she slowly gets the truth... or sheesh mahal... or anything... a real story. nothing came.

and finally even kkg asr was completely forgotten.

funny what a conscience or integrity free space this became.

sorry, i do feel sad. one of the reasons, i don't feel like writing these days i guess.


Okay Ladies, hate to end this thread this way but I guess we must. This is what I love about our thread- our different views and our freedom to express them! The one thing we can all agree on is that we love our couple and the premise of IPK.
Horizon, love your views on Holi
These episodes brought the tenderness in Arnav and Khushi like never. Khushi had been boggled with these dhak dhaks right from Day 1. Finally that day had come, and it needed a total drunken state, for their brains to get shut off and they being fully taken over by their hearts... Khushi was finally able to pose the question to the man who is the first authority to answer that and who has been sailing in the same boat. It was truly heartening to see this constantly bickering couple, to have a heart to heart talk for once, the ambience, the mood.. that confession finally happening where they shared many a special moments, that pool side.. he taking care of her after laying her down on the lounge chair as if she is the MOST precious thing ever happened to him, and that he can't bear the sight of a faintest smear on her..the contentment, joy, relief in her eyes as she found the answer she was looking for long now... then his gentle shaking of head NOT letting her go... that could make one to go through a quick trip to heaven... isn't that what he always wanted to say/ do.. NOT letting her go for a second...ever since she said "Luknow ja rahe hai hum .. hamesha ke liye"... aww that is THE moment for the entire confession for me when he wouldn't let her go...then he would say most softly "I am waiting"... very much reminiscent of his "Mei intezaar kar raha hun" on that fateful day he would come to know about her engagement... full of yearning...
These few days have brought some of the most beautiful moments between them...
I agree up until there, then yes there was disappointment, that fire was doused and the hate story started again. The misunderstanding between the two, the bickering back and forth but if it didn't happen I would not have seen my Khushi with a little bit of a backbone. I love how she stood up against him and once in a while their guard would fall and we would see the fire again. There would have been no story if they didn't proceed this way because they were idiots!
I agree they were idiots when it came to asking the public for storylines, what were the writers paid for I wonder? They should have gone back to the drawing board watching from the very first episode so they would know how to write our characters and complete the story we wanted to see finished, tie up all those loose ends.
Indi, all those nonsensical adding of characters to raise the TRP's how ridiculous! What were they thinking we were the idiots? We wouldn't notice. They never fully closed any of the open story lines and they also never gave us a secondary storylinee to follow the other characters. So sad. Masking Anjali a self centered brat after A-K marriage was pitiful and the crying OMG pitiful! The hotness of Holi never really happened again for me until their Haldi ceremony UFF loved that bedroom scene; A-K became siblings after their marriage, what was that? They started that stupid Shyam and camera scenario, seriously We were all waiting for a suhaag raat and they give us absolutely nothing- bad decision and writing as far as I was concerned. I was waiting and watching patiently for my IPK to return, for the romance to begin again, but I got nothing!. So disappointing, but I loved our characters and I remained faithful.
Indi, oh yes you are correct when you say,
two actors and a director valiantly tried to keep it going by being as true as they could be.
And when you say
sorry, i do feel sad. one of the reasons, i don't feel like writing these days i guess.
my advise to all of us is to continue writing but place your spin on what you would have like to have seen. It will be really interesting to read!
😉
Edited by cinthiann1758 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52





missed him like crazy today. a couple of edits, just had to post here of course.




Ruke ruke se kadam...ruk ke baar baar chale
Qaraar le ke tere...dar se beqaraar chale...

The look in those eyes, seriously melancholic...how not to feel so just looking?

My heart is sinking...

Oh smile, please do, you weaver of magic. Feel like losing myself in your spell right now...



Posted: 11 years ago
@Indi
Killer...killer...killer edits of our man, Indi. *thud* Missing him too much!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: cinthiann1758


Okay Ladies, hate to end this thread this way but I guess we must. This is what I love about our thread- our different views and our freedom to express them! The one thing we can all agree on is that we love our couple and the premise of IPK.
Horizon, love your views on Holi
These episodes brought the tenderness in Arnav and Khushi like never. Khushi had been boggled with these dhak dhaks right from Day 1. Finally that day had come, and it needed a total drunken state, for their brains to get shut off and they being fully taken over by their hearts... Khushi was finally able to pose the question to the man who is the first authority to answer that and who has been sailing in the same boat. It was truly heartening to see this constantly bickering couple, to have a heart to heart talk for once, the ambience, the mood.. that confession finally happening where they shared many a special moments, that pool side.. he taking care of her after laying her down on the lounge chair as if she is the MOST precious thing ever happened to him, and that he can't bear the sight of a faintest smear on her..the contentment, joy, relief in her eyes as she found the answer she was looking for long now... then his gentle shaking of head NOT letting her go... that could make one to go through a quick trip to heaven... isn't that what he always wanted to say/ do.. NOT letting her go for a second...ever since she said "Luknow ja rahe hai hum .. hamesha ke liye"... aww that is THE moment for the entire confession for me when he wouldn't let her go...then he would say most softly "I am waiting"... very much reminiscent of his "Mei intezaar kar raha hun" on that fateful day he would come to know about her engagement... full of yearning...
These few days have brought some of the most beautiful moments between them...
I agree up until there, then yes there was disappointment, that fire was doused and the hate story started again. The misunderstanding between the two, the bickering back and forth but if it didn't happen I would not have seen my Khushi with a little bit of a backbone. I love how she stood up against him and once in a while their guard would fall and we would see the fire again. There would have been no story if they didn't proceed this way because they were idiots!
I agree they were idiots when it came to asking the public for storylines, what were the writers paid for I wonder? They should have gone back to the drawing board watching from the very first episode so they would know how to write our characters and complete the story we wanted to see finished, tie up all those loose ends.
Indi, all those nonsensical adding of characters to raise the TRP's how ridiculous! What were they thinking we were the idiots? We wouldn't notice. They never fully closed any of the open story lines and they also never gave us a secondary storylinee to follow the other characters. So sad. Masking Anjali a self centered brat after A-K marriage was pitiful and the crying OMG pitiful! The hotness of Holi never really happened again for me until their Haldi ceremony UFF loved that bedroom scene; A-K became siblings after their marriage, what was that? They started that stupid Shyam and camera scenario, seriously We were all waiting for a suhaag raat and they give us absolutely nothing- bad decision and writing as far as I was concerned. I was waiting and watching patiently for my IPK to return, for the romance to begin again, but I got nothing!. So disappointing, but I loved our characters and I remained faithful.
Indi, oh yes you are correct when you say,
two actors and a director valiantly tried to keep it going by being as true as they could be.
And when you say
sorry, i do feel sad. one of the reasons, i don't feel like writing these days i guess.
my advise to all of us is to continue writing but place your spin on what you would have like to have seen. It will be really interesting to read!
😉



hi cynthia,

funnily enough, i wondered if as i did write of the coming episodes, my little thoughts of what might have been will erupt and get expressed. but i am no fiction writer, that requires an inventiveness which i may or may not possess... however, as a viewer or reader i can feel what works what does not. here the writing went away. so to take it to a place of real beauty may be tough as our reference point will always be what we are seeing...the episode.

holi was fabulous for me. i even remember the dates. 12 to 16 march 2012. the murmurous longing of those days, such a perfect culmination of a pair irrevocably in love and in a terrible mess, i will never forget.

my first huh was the straight after nimbu forgetting.

he did not forget.

but she really did.

and then she turned into some sort of heartless person to get back t him. that was not the khushi i knew. yes, she had spine and oh yes she could give it to him, but this petty nonsense?

the girl i knew would walk out of the house as she did, would dump water on him... would war with him.

but she would never ever humiliate him.

how could she have had the dil ki dhadkane conversation with him and forgotten everything? she who remembered everything that had happened between them.

i am thinking, they must have thought, let's give the viewers some happiness for holi and devised this... then got into a quandary as to how to get back to friction between the two... and come up with what they did.

cynthia, i honestly do not understand why shyam's character and back story was never reached. why anjali's character was messed beyond belief. why khushi would not be kept intact. none of it i understand. channel does interfere. the wedding might have been demanded. but for the makers to give up to this extent?

nah, no point moaning. this is what it is. i will write about the things that moved me. and anyway, many previous episodes i haven't had a chance to write about... so maybe now's the time. 😳

but when it comes to recording the inception, the evolution, the mystery, the takeover of attraction all the way to a feeling in the heart and the being... nothing nothing and nothing has ever come close to ipk for me.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Katelyn

@Indi
Killer...killer...killer edits of our man, Indi. *thud* Missing him too much!



too much, kate. i just hope there is something in the new year. maybe a strange time will pass and he will be on a screen touching us in killer ways again.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: IssPKaur



Ruke ruke se kadam...ruk ke baar baar chale
Qaraar le ke tere...dar se beqaraar chale...

The look in those eyes, seriously melancholic...how not to feel so just looking?

My heart is sinking...

Oh smile, please do, you weaver of magic. Feel like losing myself in your spell right now...





hey, issk...

beqarar is the dil and there is frankly no gaye jaa in mine these days. a terrible struggle... i may have to let this whole thing go a part of me says. it's over. then that ever gaane wala side pipes up nahiiin, the eclipse is over, the sun will rise again and dhak dhak of different kinds and rhythms will create clamour. hah.

you know all these shots are from episode 4... how often i have read that he took a while to get into the role. for me, he was asr from the very moment he got off the helicopter. yes, maybe he settled into asr's skin as time went by... but the guy at the mazar and the man slapping moolrajani... both were asr in his inert, non reactive, icy cold state. very few things touched him those days... only anjali... and the flicker in his eyes in episode one told us of that in a beautiful instant.

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