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Posted: 11 years ago
durga, 😃

never did bother me the non religious nature of our wedding. i just wanted to be with him, bas. actually i am hugely in favour of a secular marriage which is considered legally binding. not a great one for accepted modes of practically anything... that's me. born weird. but i know somewhere though jacob never ever brought it up... because he doesn't need it, but he would be delighted if there were open acceptance by his community. and yes, ma in law.

so i was happy.

my own aunts are forever telling me now i am jewish without realising how silly and erroneous that is. i am hindu. bas. that is all there is to it. in fact, being married to a jewish person made me examine my own sense of self, who i am, etc.,... and open minded as i am, individualistic as i am in the matter of my spirituality, i realised i was essentially hindu.

i used to be rather childish about most things, i still am about many things... but this decision to be with the one i felt something for has sure taught me some stuff... and it has always been interesting. essentially because my old man is kind of weird too. 😆

achcha about khushi ji, i am only mad at her because she really upset my poor asr that night, what a thing to say. and he, mad and angry, actually said what made sense. the kkg's of our duniya need to grow up a bit maybe. if you love a guy and live with him, and call yourself his patni, and pull janmashtami jhoola with him (which is imp to your heart), and if you are legally married to him as he claimed... then surely you can't say oh but we are not married properly. this insistence on rituals both asr and i are ahem nahiiin with. if rituals are that important, say so up front, do not flutter eyelash and act coy and say who speaks to one's patni like that.

but since i like asr lau kkg, i will phorgiviya, that trp and sp and ph... now thats' another matter. 😡😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52

guru ji?

nahiiin.

nahiin nahin nahin.

me lunatic verbose old lady. bas.

haan haan haan.

samjhe, aap sab?

faiqa...you ze guru foreva (hyuk, how desperately i am trying to learn the new spellings).

wiwy,

thank you thank you. your bhalo dada and not so bhalo didi managed to not fight through the anni. actually had quite a decent time.

now that i've started, a very very personal and pribhaaate moment i am putting on a bhery bhery open thread.

yes, wiwy... it was a special day. not because we drank champagne... which at a friend's party we almost did. nor because he bought me an expensive gift... aww my old buddha ji actually did that too. got me these classic studs from, where is my sweet cynthia... van cleef... alhambra.

yay. i am a earring monster.

but the personal story.

on 14 december 1985, jacob and i got married under the special marriage act of india. as we belong to different religions this is the only marriage considered legally valid in india. and since my not being a jew meant there was no religious ceremonies from his side and his being one meant no pooja paath hindu wedding rites, we never had any religious ceremonies when we tied the dhaga. only customs... and a legal certificate. two simple signatures on apiece of paper... and i have lost the original.

this means in strictly technical terms the jewish faith does not recognise our marriage. nor i am sure does the hindu practice (so yes, khushi ji, i am not his patni because there were no pheras... so angry with you when you said that to asr. that your marriage is incomplete? marriages are made in the mind deeply, not by pheras... samjhi?).

anyway, jacob is deeply jewish and quite quite observant... yet, he has never ever asked himself if what he did with me was wrong. in fact i now realise that the very fact he married me and insisted we keep our faiths as is was a major thing.

you see, i am not much into organised religion, so it never mattered to me as such.

so on saturday, when i was sitting in the synagogue attending the shabbath lunch for my daughter's dearest friend's bat mitzvah, yeah i did tell a couple of my friends that today is our anniversary, but didn't make an issue of it. it was also mu kid's other good friend's bday, and a boys's bar mitzvah.

very packed day for celebrations. many speeches, much cake cutting and singing and dancing and drinking, the bat mitzvah girl being of georgian origin, her family had flown in with wonderful home made wine, gallons of vodka and georgian sweets, a mad merry atmosphere all around.

and in the middle of that, rabbi gets up and says, well when it rains it pours, we have one more huge celebration today... indi and jacob's wedding anniversary. 28 years, etc.

i felt a huge amount of happiness, gratitude to the eternal, to everyone in my life, and i missed my ma in law. she was always a bit worried about that validity angle. she even suggested i try judaism. i wished she were here to hear the rabbi. a chabad rabbi, most orhodox, wishing us in front of the whole community.

ties are undeniable. mere customs and rituals do not make them.

okay maybe rabbi was so high on the wine, he said dil ki baat, and in doing that he gained loads of respect in my eyes.

sorry to have gone on.

i wanted to tell you all. tried before. then thought of a million things and didn't.

but wiwy's wishes with that man's visage just said, go for it... dil ki baat had to be said.

hope you and your asr, had a hot anni too. bless ya, wiwy ji.


😭oh my dear sweet indi, yes i am crying here!
what a beautiful life you have lead with your jacob, so much love and respect.
I know, i lived among the orthodox community and was the only christian to work in the yeshiva, i was accepted whole heartedly, even me being a christian. The children would sometimes ask me why i wasn't jewish and then tell me too bad! i laughed and blessed them as i worked daily in this wonderful school. i learned so much about the adoration of YHWH. living a life dedicated soley to the Lord of all. it is a beautiful religion, i must say so.
BAS, enough of that though.
as for you and jacob. hats off to that man, he truly loves you!!!! the orthodox people stay among themselves and marry other jews that is just how it is. so for jacob , a truly orthodox man, obviously you are at a chabad, marry outside his religion and then the acceptance of you keeping your own faith, WOW!!!! hats off to this man!
and you! such love you must have to say yes and to go and live your life possibly fighting a battle with family. romeo and juliet, the montages and capulets...not with family hate but you get my just, difference of opinions and religions.
who needs pheras, when you have vowed to each other your love. you are blessed by the Divine just for living and breathing; add loving into the mix uff! that is G-d, that is religion. I have so much respect and awe for you two and what you represent, freedom of religion, freedom to be your own person, freedom to love who you want to love, freedom to just be who you both are individually and as a couple...mazel tov on this monumental anniversary. everyday in your lives is just that. bravo, Jacob for the loving your wife so deeply.
Arnav and Khushi moreover!
Just brilliant! A story must be written here!
and our jacob bought you those earrings from Van Cleef and Arpel, Alhambra...did he read my story? AWWW! love him just for that
happy anniversary my dear friend!
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Posted: 11 years ago



made this for a friend. just sharing here.
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Originally posted by: cinthiann1758


😭oh my dear sweet indi, yes i am crying here!
what a beautiful life you have lead with your jacob, so much love and respect.
I know, i lived among the orthodox community and was the only christian to work in the yeshiva, i was accepted whole heartedly, even me being a christian. The children would sometimes ask me why i wasn't jewish and then tell me too bad! i laughed and blessed them as i worked daily in this wonderful school. i learned so much about the adoration of YHWH. living a life dedicated soley to the Lord of all. it is a beautiful religion, i must say so.
BAS, enough of that though.
as for you and jacob. hats off to that man, he truly loves you!!!! the orthodox people stay among themselves and marry other jews that is just how it is. so for jacob , a truly orthodox man, obviously you are at a chabad, marry outside his religion and then the acceptance of you keeping your own faith, WOW!!!! hats off to this man!
and you! such love you must have to say yes and to go and live your life possibly fighting a battle with family. romeo and juliet, the montages and capulets...not with family hate but you get my just, difference of opinions and religions.
who needs pheras, when you have vowed to each other your love. you are blessed by the Divine just for living and breathing; add loving into the mix uff! that is G-d, that is religion. I have so much respect and awe for you two and what you represent, freedom of religion, freedom to be your own person, freedom to love who you want to love, freedom to just be who you both are individually and as a couple...mazel tov on this monumental anniversary. everyday in your lives is just that. bravo, Jacob for the loving your wife so deeply.
Arnav and Khushi moreover!
Just brilliant! A story must be written here!
and our jacob bought you those earrings from Van Cleef and Arpel, Alhambra...did he read my story? AWWW! love him just for that
happy anniversary my dear friend!



thanks so much, my dear cynthia.

okay, maybe a little wrong impression here. the orthodox community you speak of, is possibly far more observant than jacob. jacob grew up in calcutta at a time that the jewish population, mainly baghdadi jews like him, was dwindling. he barely observed anything when we met... but he felt jewish and practiced a couplre of things without fail. as he grew older he started observing more, he felt a need within and in singapore where there's a thriving community, would you believe it, he has grown more observant and happy about that.

he is an orthodox jew but still quite easy going comparatively. he will still eat at a normal restaurant but avoid meat, etc.

and no, my dear one, no objection from either mother when we said we wanted to get married. sorry for this boring bit. my mother told jacob that he better know what he was taking on as it was fairly clear i was not quite sane. his mother tried her best to reconcile to a non jewish daughter in law without making too much of a fuss. they both wanted us to be happy. both the ladies were tough, impossible to browbeat, and said, ok, go marry. they were the best.

i have been crazy about alhambra ever since the first long chains appeared about 7 years ago. a classic length and design, and such a pure motif. so when i read in your story about it, i was delighted. yes he got me the plain black studs... the magic chain was a surprise a couple of years ago. this man never liked jewellery, i conned him.😆

i agree with you, judaism is beautiful. whatever little i know of it. i find hindusim beautiful too. and the leeetle bit i know of christianity, islam, buddhism, sikhism as well. the community here has been as welcoming of me as they were of you at the yeshiva. i am the only one in a saree at all formal occasions and constantly being asked if it's okay to serve me meet... so sweet, me carnivore.

the rabbi here is chabad, but not the community... they are mainly baghdadi jews with more eastern traditions, but right now singapore has jews from almost everywhere and an ashkanaz service has also started in the sephardic shul... ze plot thickens 😆.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52

Oh, that collar of yours can safely be always up Indi as there many droolers of your writings at a given time including me. But yes, when the words directly seep from the heart .. farq padtha hai.. pleasure is all the reader's! and this one is certainly one of those!
I actually loved his "Beau...tiful".. fit him so well... may be that.. uske baal.. uske ankhe... not as much... this uptight boring me can't really accept this man to even get drunk and go ga ga for his girl!!:)
Khushi's sanka.. kya bole.. I knew he was floored by her looks.. her dance as he looks at her adoringly all those times you mentioned... I thought her fieriness was another very imp one .. she being the only one to have get back at him ..was doing things to him.. .. Not sure if I can say.. but kind of a foreplay.. where she touches a part of him no one did/ could...when ever he said "Khushi, don't talk to me like that" almost felt a suppressed pleading not to play with his senses!!!😲
But her sanka.. aahh.. I got a clue to that ONLY here.. or even when during that dabba service where she walks on the bed talking on the phone "ab aa gaya na truck pul ke neeche" and he.. all smitten .. no escape... loony Khushi was that girl a guy in my family is head over heels in love with and I have to put up with her some how for his sake...:)
I haven't even talked about that Akbar Urdu.. that silhouette you loved.. as I promised myself not to be too verbose...but loved all that.
Look forward to many more of these "Straight from the Heart"s Indi!!

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Posted: 11 years ago
Indi, I find as we get older we sometimes want to be more observant to the Divine while others free themselves of all the rituals etc.
What wonderful and encouraging moms you both had!!
Still the jewelry...love Jacob!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52




made this for a friend. just sharing here.

Fantastic 😳
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ArshiHamesha

Horizon 😊


I posted my message on Indi's post, as I requested , write down lyrics for me for that song and the caps you want , I will edit for you...some more

Hey yes I saw it. will post in in a while. thank you for doing this.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: wiwy

Horizon Kate, In di, Cyn, Faiqu, Sohara, Javeria, BD and all Blasters ⭐️I am so so lucky to have friends like you and i am so so sorry that I could not read your messages wishing me/us a happy wedding anniversary. I tried to log in from my phone at shantiniketan but I could not connect. But i am feeling so excited and happy that I could read all your messages and accept all the beautiful flowers you sent my way before 12 midnight on the 15th! 🤗


But i missed out on wishing In di and dada a gala time on their 28th wedding anniversary on the 14th😳, a day before mine! Belated anniversary wishes mishti dushtu In di 😛and bhalo Dada 😃but they are from the very barun of my heart, 🥳 so please do aacept them!
The wistful longing for your hubby when you see him not and the fight in you when you do...he he...if that has taken you to the 28th In di then there is hope for me and my hubs too!👍🏼 Thank you for the Hemanta 'Tumi robe nirobe'. that version of the song from the movie Kuheli has lingered on in my heart too. 🤗

Soha how sweet of you to think of the song in the first place and for the translation. I know the words of the song are difficult but thank you so much for learning the meaning from your father and doing this for me!🤗

Horizon thanks for sharing your 14dec 1985 mom's gift of veena . I, in fact we all would love to hear you playing the veena ! I am no good at instruments but I remember my parents gifted me a walkman on my birthday on 14jan 1985. It must have cost them quite a sum then but they did it because I wanted to pick up rabindra sangeet but was too shy to go to a music teacher. 😃

Durgey thanks for the beautiful poem you wrote for my anniversary. Thankyou. I know that you and my Blaster friends truely care for me. That is why I feel so lucky and blessed. 😃

Kate that for the pout edit of Barun! Do you think he is pouting because he could not come with me to Shantiniketan? Hope so! 😉

Cyn, you are right my real Arnav is my hubby. He is as cool as him! And you are like a big sisterwa! The one with whom I feel I can share everything! Everything!😉

Faiqu thank you for your beautiful thoughts and wishes. And your deadwa barun edit. Since there are three obviously I am taking one! 😃

Javeria thank you for the lovely glitters and the violet roses, my fav colour!How did you know! telepathy kya! 🤗

BD thanks for dropping in and for the special wishes that can only be relayed only from one sauten to another. ❤️

I tried to do something for all of you, esp In di whose anniversary I missed. If you like it all credit to Supi who helped me learn this one!

Hi dear wiwy, good to know you indeed had Shanti at Shantiniektan. don't worry about not being able to log in. you enjoying the day is more imp.
Thanks for sharing about that Walkman. Sure these were all expensive for the standards of those days. Some times I wonder/ I am sure rather I cant be as sacrificial as our parents generation... I spend all this time here.. for my own pleasure of being with all of you.. talking about things I love.. hmm..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Horizon



Oh, that collar of yours can safely be always up Indi as there many droolers of your writings at a given time including me. But yes, when the words directly seep from the heart .. farq padtha hai.. pleasure is all the reader's! and this one is certainly one of those

I actually loved his "Beau...tiful".. fit him so well... may be that.. uske baal.. uske ankhe... not as much... this uptight boring me can't really accept this man to even get drunk and go ga ga for his girl!!:)
Khushi's sanka.. kya bole.. I knew he was floored by her looks.. her dance as he looks at her adoringly all those times you mentioned... I thought her fieriness was another very imp one .. she being the only one to have get back at him ..was doing things to him.. .. Not sure if I can say.. but kind of a foreplay.. where she touches a part of him no one did/ could...when ever he said "Khushi, don't talk to me like that" almost felt a suppressed pleading not to play with his senses!!!😲
But her sanka.. aahh.. I got a clue to that ONLY here.. or even when during that dabba service where she walks on the bed talking on the phone "ab aa gaya na truck pul ke neeche" and he.. all smitten .. no escape... loony Khushi was that girl a guy in my family is head over heels in love with and I have to put up with her some how for his sake...:)
I haven't even talked about that Akbar Urdu.. that silhouette you loved.. as I promised myself not to be too verbose...but loved all that.
Look forward to many more of these "Straight from the Heart"s Indi!!



right you are... 👏 that getting back at him... her fieriness. also majorly essential. he liked her giving it right back to him. not in an obvious way liked, but it sparke something in him and ignited him. that foreplay... oh yes. it was that. her spiritedness excited him, he also respected that i think. of course, he wanted no jhamela man woman relationship and that idea required a woman who was accommodating and accepting of his authority, or first among equals position. but here, when he was operating in a field which was way outside where he thought he'd play, here he enjoyed that chilli pepper temoer, the talk back, and the sanka just bowled him out.

the only way i could reconcile to usski aankhen was to tell myself, he was saying all that for his di and nani.

and yes, he was wildly physically attracted to her... love that.

she too to him. in ipk 2 i better see her checking him out, or else... 😆

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