Originally posted by ArshiHamesha@BlastersAs I was watching 189 and it just hit me...Arnav is the decision maker of the house and if he wants to get married to Khushi he could have easily done it in front of both the families,Right... And he could have done that in front of Shyaam with Khushi. In this way he could have taken his revenge with both of them at the same time. But, he choses to do outside.As this is an actual marriage then I must say CVs have not thought this thoroughly.
On the other hand, I don't get the logic of actual wedding at all.Even if he thinks Khushi is backstabbing his sister, he has no right to ruin a girl's life. How come this was the solution of this problem... No it isn't. Why he did not analyze both the sides of this story? We all know his mind stops working in anger but why because of his anger, impulse, rage, and hasty reactions it is Khushi who always is in the receiving end. My heart really cried for her.
Love to hear ur views😊
hi faiqa,
great topic. and i have wondered often why i didn't feel as bad for khushi as i ought to. was it because i was smitten with the boy? maybe that was there too.
of course, what was done to khushi was wrong... no question.
why did he not marry her in front of all. i would think because...
a) he did not want to spoil the wedding ceremony of akash and payal... and so appeared way after it with khushi... when only the fam was present.
b) he was hurt and angry and insecure and crazy beyond a point. he had no intention of making anything easy for khushi... extreme knee jerk reaction, where he tried to actually protect one imp woman and not lose the other imp woman. in the bargain, the second one got terribly badly treated. if he had been able to convey shyam's deceit to di, he may have treated khsuhi in some other way, not married her or dragged her to a temple, but whatever way, it would have been harsh on khushi... a sense of how could you! in all he did to her. a sense ofa violent outburst against someone that matters madly...
(i wrote earlier, the one you love most you tend to hurt and protect the one who is weaker... in this case it was his di... with this action, actually, he seemed to show me how badly he loved khushi rather than how much he despised her. weird.)
c) somewhere he wanted to hurt her as much as he'd been hurt. i have heard that sex without her consent was also considered by gul and co but was thankfully dumped. that would have finished the story for me. this somehow didn't... because if she indeed meant nothing, he would have dragged her to a lawyers' office and made her sign... not to a temple and given her sindoor mangalsutra. yes, he said all these things matter only to her... but why bother if you don't give a damn, mister? she wouldn't have been able to say anything anyway, once she bought into the idea that for her sis's sake she'd go through with a 6 month marriage.
this marriage is supposed to have been forced actually by star plus 😆 and not asr at all. given that, i am glad cv's went for this beyond conventions and red passionate nuptials... tears and hurt and anger and hatred and seething love only in attendance.
about khushi... the fruits of your action, keeps coming to mind.
again and again if you refuse to do what you ought to have, maybe it all culminates in something terrible. should she have not told asr about shyam after finding out? okay, not then... when he tried to hold her dupatta on haldi day? and if i am ot mistaken a couple more times in between? even just before he got called away, when shyam insisted on talking to her? if not all those times, after the terrace, where again she too forever to reject him as a man and took time to talk about devi like anjali ji?... why did she not go running to him immediately and insist on telling him? yes yes, this is a story and that is how it played out... but then i do see a connection and do not consider khushi entirely without fault or control in this matter.
she reflects a mindset of shame and hush hush that indian women, and i suspect much of the women in our world, seem to be encouraged to nurture. that is how she reacts to the whole shyam thing... in fact, payal is the only one who seems to be ready to take on anything but not give in. of course, her character therefore was nicely finished off. serials do not wish to make us think... so we are fed the mahanta and poor girl stories. sorry, i do believe that.
the more we allow ourselves the place of the powerless, the more such things appeal... sacrifice is her strength, not wanting anything for herself is her greatness... a bit of a stretch this whole thing.
once khushi had set off on a scooter to talk to her to be jeeja ji about dowry on the day of her sister's marriage. her precipitate action did indeed lead to the break up of that wedding... arnav singh raizada, stood before payal and said it was no fault of khushi's. wasn't it? was that a thinking and sensible thing to do to rush off with the deed of the shop without telling anyone?
yet, we loved her for it. because it seemed brave, gutsy, the right thing to do and we excused the senseless aspect by calling her jhalli and crazy fondly.
ok.
but what happens when a married man is pawing you? where is your rush then? or do you value yourself so little that you are willing to let it all go for supposedly someone else's happiness? and what happiness... with a lout? a cheat? what is really the right thing to do here?
khushi did not drag anyone to a temple... but she kept quiet about a sick man and his heinous deeds. later she even brought him right back into rm, even after he'd tried to kill asr and her, again without telling a soul she did it.
at least for that action she did apologise... sort of.
and he apologised for all the things he ever did. i liked her answer... i know you did it because you love me so much.
that is it somewhere, for me, faiqa...
we hurt each other a lot in love... what asr did was not right, but maybe his feelings were right... same with khushi... her feelings for her family, him, they are right... somewhere they are what make us forgive, feel and understand both people.
i will mention again shapmochan by tagore... indra curses his court musician and dancer to mortal existence because they were so immersed in each other they forgot to give salaam to indra and he said words to this effect, "go you to earth where you will give dukkha (pain/hurt/sadness) and receive dukkha, and in this will will be your penance... the you'll find each other again and return."
having said all that, i did want to cry for khushi again and again... and also for arnav singh raizada, the man who'd looked at her with that smile and walked that walk with her... chakravyuha it was, faiqa, but they came out and survive and livd together...
to me that was the greatest triumph of this love story... it did not rely on tragedy to be memorable... it showed the courage it takes to live, even if through hell and find one's love, ket one's love lead.
writers wrote as we know without much integrity, between asr and kkg and devi maiyya they made sure we go to the place.
ufff, tum kitna bolti ho, indi. 😆
one more thing... i don't think he ever meant to humiliate her before others. he would protect her honour the best he can. only he was allowed to know the truth, what a bad girl she was. i love this stupid moron fool... and his jhalli is perfecto for him... but madam needs to learn to look at her own actions a bit and dump the mahanta thing... she is too cool to need it.. i loved her bankelal tactic... silly but khushi.and he might try to curb that anger... now that he has happiness i his life once more.
shut up, indi.
I have been really thinking about this conversation can't seem to get it off my mind. I seem to be the only one who believes he did all this purposely...which lead to humiliation, hurt, pain and to me shame.
Khushi had no choice, she was being emotionally blackmailed and he felt this was the only way to protect Di. When I think about it, I see his anger but I also see his pain and his love for Khushi. I must remember it was only moments ago that he was rushing up to declare something to her so his underlying love was still there amongst the pain and betrayal he felt. I must remember that the emotions he was feeling were only enhanced and exacerbated by Shyam's response to him that he loved Khushi, she was his life and the only thing in the way was Rani Sahiba. So his hate came from Shyam , his hurt from the belief that Khushi was involved and a cheat, "disgusting" he said.
Now as for the entrance, the families reaction, his beliefs were not like the rest of them. It was no big deal to elope, after all he believed in a live-in relationship too. So his nonchalant attitude didn't pan well with the families but we also saw his discomfort knowing he hurt them all too, and their beliefs.
When I say shame, he knew this was going to bring shame upon Khushi because it would not be acceptable to her families' sanskar/custom/traditions (believe that is the word), but he did it anyhow, he had to, he didn't have a choice. This couldn't go on anymore, Di was pregnant he had to protect her and her rights. he was so blinded by the situation any love he felt for Khushi was now animosity. If she can hurt his sister then he had to do something. Marriage, pretty drastic don't you think? But it's a soap opera.
His hate was overshadowed at times, we se hints of love, when she is shivering outside and he feels her pain. He wrings his hands making his knuckles white. He throws her a blanket. She pushes it away. She will not touch anything he offers.
When she catches her skin with the necklace and he hears her yelp, he jumps up and then realizes his mistake and walks out the door. Eventually he even brings her in from poolside. His underlying love for her coming in through his guilt.
He knows he did wrong by her and we hear him say that in the later episodes.
Alas, I am not sure what else to say. I believe everyone has eloquently expressed their wonderful opinions and I may come back with another thought.
@Indi
why i didn't feel as bad for khushi as i ought to. was it because i was smitten with the boy? maybe that was there too.
I felt bad for our dear Khushi but I don't think as bad as I should have. His forcefulness excited me a bit in a demented way perhaps. I need a shrink maybe.
of course, what was done to khushi was wrong... no question.
extreme knee jerk reaction, where he tried to actually protect one imp woman and not lose the other imp woman
(i wrote earlier, the one you love most you tend to hurt and protect the one who is weaker... in this case it was his di... with this action, actually, he seemed to show me how badly he loved khushi rather than how much he despised her. weird.) You can see it though!
c) somewhere he wanted to hurt her as much as he'd been hurt.
Totally agree.
And Faiqa the temple Indi said it because if she indeed meant nothing, he would have dragged her to a lawyers' office and made her sign... not to a temple and given her sindoor mangalsutra. yes, he said all these things matter only to her... but why bother if you don't give a damn, mister?
I do not consider khushi entirely without fault or control in this matter. Why did't as she say something I wonder?
later she even brought him right back into rm, To save Di! She did apologize when they found out he killed his child. She apologized outside the house to ASR.
i don't think he ever meant to humiliate her before others. DISAGREE, I THINK HE DID HE WANTED HER HUMILIATED, TO FEEL PAIN. he would protect her honour the best he can.AGREE only he was allowed to know the truth, what a bad girl she was I u NDERSTAND YOUR POINT OF VIEW.
This was fun!
Edited by cinthiann1758 - 11 years ago
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