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Posted: 12 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: meeyaa

People are unconsciously trying to steal other's freedom. Some observations and questions.

if u have so much of working problem, better dont join TV industry only na...

Try in films and modelling from beginning.

u cant travel in two boats together.

- Trying something, realizing it is not working for oneself and giving it up to do something one likes is absolutely human. It cannot be done "from beginning" always. Let him make mistakes. Dont worry. He would not hold his fans and ask them why they allowed him to make this mistake.

If another serious actor wud hv been in his place. that actor wud give away his life after seeing that he is such a bIG star in TV industry.
- I would like to rephrase this as "If another worldly-wise person would have been his place..." He is a good actor. But probably he is not wise enough to survive in this world. Does it make him a bad human being?

Thts why barun says Tv is stable career.
- He does understand some basics. Doesnt he. Then why did he leave. Is he a fool? He left call center job (more stable than TV) to come to TV and now he is going to BW/ HW which is more riskier. But then it just says he is ready to take risks in life. Every risk comes with a probability of failure. But no pain, no gain.

The show should have ended naturally with all the cast but it was a forced closure that's why its more affecting
- Do you know that he was offered to stay back for just 2 months and he refused. What is your source? From what seems to have happened, the show was supposed to go on. He shot the death sequence and left. What more can he do?

11 years back a very big popular TV star left his No.1 show for cinema..And that time all people said go and chase ur dreams ,TV is boring, Films is ur place. Aftr this 11 years of harsh reality , he still struggles for his lost identity. History repeats'yes amar upadhyay was a heartthrob, good looks but now seen in telemarketing advertisements.

- If a person places before himself a history of failures when pursuing his ambition how will he have the courage to even try once? When Amar was encouraged 11 years back, why is Barun not encouraged now. Why cant a truly talented person be given the freedom to pursue his dreams. What fate has in store for him is his lot.

Loyalty to character is the only thing he can be questioned for. But what loyalty when all around you see actors coming and going out of characters. Why should he be stuck with something he doesnt have his heart on forever. Do we all stick to only one job however great that seems to others?

Lets not forget that all his previous shows have helped him in gaining the ASR role. Whether they themselves were hit/flop is not the point here. His acting was recognised and he got this role.

And the guy had enough professional conduct to take leave for 1 day for marriage ! Am sure he would have asked the PH and they didnt give him leave. Did he create ruckus?

A newly married guy who gets to spend very less time with his wife. He is getting amazing accolades at work but at home things are not so great. He wants to go on a vacation and the PH refuses to grant any more leave for whatever reason. He then decides to quit as he doesnt feel the urge any more to do this job. He wants to take a break and then decide what he wants to do in life. He wants to support his family and take care of them always.
-- Reading this, do you want to blame the person for leaving? Thats what Barun seems to be doing and so much criticism towards him !

very well written👏👏👏👏
TM is the Barun basher and will remain for life😆😆😆😆😆😆
for them Sanaya is a Goddess...
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Posted: 12 years ago
#92

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And many people who complain Barun is getting the short end of the stick and wish people stop the bashing, are the very same people who wished death onto Gul, called her any degrading word you can think of. Who bashed Sanaya for her opinions and claimed she was trying to ruin Barun. Who wished Sanaya and Mohit to breakup, who called VIraf a giraffe and called him cheap and a player. Who call other members phangoatwas. Who called the CC reps and cursed them off.

Harsh ridiculing wasnt only limited to Barun so its not fair to keep bringing this up to defend Barun only..if so, it should be applied to all others..no double standards. Otherwise, shut up.

Tired of seeing the same thing pop up in any sensible post simply because its against "save sobti" mission.


all that bashing was just to divert ppl from barun...how come those reliable sources didnt know about shows ending if they actually are reliable...
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Posted: 12 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: McNinja


And many people who complain Barun is getting the short end of the stick and wish people stop the bashing, are the very same people who wished death onto Gul, called her any degrading word you can think of. Who bashed Sanaya for her opinions and claimed she was trying to ruin Barun. Who wished Sanaya and Mohit to breakup, who called VIraf a giraffe and called him cheap and a player. Who call other members phangoatwas. Who called the CC reps and cursed them off.

Harsh ridiculing wasnt only limited to Barun so its not fair to keep bringing this up to defend Barun only..if so, it should be applied to all others..no double standards. Otherwise, shut up.

Tired of seeing the same thing pop up in any sensible post simply because its against "save sobti" mission.


all that bashing was to divert ppl from barun...how come those reliable sources didnt know shows ending if they know gul blasted barun...that means they are nt actually reliable...claim to be reliable
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Posted: 12 years ago
#94

Originally posted by: borreg

very well written👏
TM is the Barun basher and will remain for life😆
for them Sanaya is a Goddess...



u know bashers are the real fans .bcz they try to make sense of things. look at the matter from every single angle. i dont know who this ricky bahl is but what ever s/he said makes sense. no matter what bollywood, health, personal, professional anything he should not have leave the show at this point when he was bigger then the show . known worldwide. and after all of this still not saying what is the real reason for his well planed quite?

i chose to believe he is sick . real sick other then that every single reason is useless
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Posted: 12 years ago
#95
I so don't wanna judge the guy, but it can't be helped...you made some valid points, quite a few of which I'm sure have crossed most of our minds at some point in the last few months.

I just hope it all works out for him and everyone that was connected to this show. What's done is done and ab toh bas usse sochna hi hoga ke aane wala kal ko kaise sudhaarega...lotsa introspection for everyone, it seems.

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Posted: 12 years ago
#96

Originally posted by: serious

wow! That's looong posts Rishy like his looongish break 😆 And well said as usual Rishy 👏

Basher, bashing.. aah I am so tired of listening to these 2 terms. Its actually an way of having a different opinion than the others.

Rishy u forgot to mention BS past, when he quit another show at the last minute before jumping into IPK. Its very crucial to judge a kind of person he is.

The uncertainty in his interviews is indeed a clear indication of his fear in failing in the BW. If at all he had to try his luck in movies, he could have very well done that after a proper closure of the show. I strongly believe its because of BS, PH/Gul lost interest in the show. You need an actor who is sticking with you thick & strong, not an actor who is ready to quit any day. Producer needs to think how to plan for the future plots & not how to retain actors, its sad state of affairs unfortunately.

I do not support BS decision but this doesn't mean I am enforcing others to follow my decision blindly, each & every individual has a brain, to make their own decisions.

Barun acting with Sanaya again... umm.. I don't see that happening in another couple of years at the least.

Its the way BS conducted himself is more pathetic than the way he left the show, no proper statements, nothing. His personal life may have been going through issues or he may have been having issues with PH but that doesn't mean he can ignore the fans of the show.

BS is famous for playing ASR and not vice versa. Its a one time show which could have gathered so much fame, still he dumped it. People are going to constantly question about his commitment even if he decides to return back to TV industry. Its not going to be easy way back into a good story.



ya buddy its a long one...WHAT is the big deal if ppl are hating his decision..even if ppl are being selfish..yes ppl are openly accepting...yes we didnt want IPKKND to get affected by him...and he shud hv continued.

How can u force ppl to like someone wen u know that person's decision has a negative impact on ur show which u love a lot.

Even i ignore the above factor...
for me its a wrong decison cause its risky...and i didnt want to see my fav Tv star suffering the same as others.Being fan doesnt mean u hv to accept their each n evry step.
i dont care... this fever in the forum will cool down in coming days tooo.

but the way he behaved wont be forgotten
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Posted: 12 years ago
#97
Rishi, I have to agree that a lot of what you have said here makes sense and also is practical! This whole "Conspiracy theory" thing does seem a bit far fetched! I do NOT doubt that Barun and even some of the other actors had issues with the PH! That is clear as day!
However, that does not mean that there was a major conspiracy against him! Personally, I felt the makers were losing interest in the product too! I am one of the people that fell in LOVE with this show and couple and wanted to see a happy end for Arnav and Khushi! So I did e-mail SP and told them that it was a mistake to change the whole USP of the show after 18 months and expect people to like it!
I NEVER thought they would shut the show down in 1 week though! I thought IF they were going to do a happy ending, they will at least give it a few weeks to wind down! But it was an abrupt call they made!
Either ways, I too feel that Barun has left TV prematurley and may be lacking in the long term committment needed to be a TV actor! Maybe episodic drama sort of stuff suit such actors better! If like the States and most Western countries, they had the "Seasons" concept in India, life would be easy for actors like Barun who want to dabble in a few things at the same time! Some people's personalities are like that!
However... having said that, it is NOT good to earn a reputation for being flighty, coz then producers and channels may worry about hiring you! I am sure his "star power" has been seen to some extent with this debacle, but I also feel this move may have proven foolhardy for his future career! I DO hope his movie does well, and whatever other projects he has signed and is currently in talks to do!
I really hope he does not crash and burn! You are right... TV is now a very good medium and most actors around the world do both cinema and TV at the same time! A lot of big Hollywood stars now do TV! It is a medium where you can build a legitimate and strong fan base! Indian TV has also proven to be the same! It has a long way to go in making versatiity of mediums available to actors, (Because Indian TV mostly has daily dramas, which are VERY time consuming), but I still think TV is a good platform for sure! It reaches a global audience now! But TV actors need to be committed for the long haul! NOT like movie actors!
To be frank, I HARDLY watch BW movies now! I am pretty selective about Hollywood movies too! In short, I watch movies for the DIRECTOR, be it BW or HW! I cannot remember the last time I watched a movie for an ACTOR! That is probably why I have not watched a lot of movies in the past year or two! I have become VERY selective! Sometimes I watch a movie coz the story or concept seems interesting! One of the better movies I saw in the last 18 months was "In Time"! The Justin Timberlake movie! That had a very interesting concept!
However, getting back to Barun, I hope he has NOT made a bad decision! He also needs to learn to give a straight answer to questions asked of him! If fans think he is TOO evasive or a downright liar, that WONT help his future career! If he wanted to quit, FINE. He should have come out and given a CLEAR statement! Just like Akshay Dogra did when he quit the show! There was NO confusion there!
Edited by MrDarcyfan - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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you hav made some valid points over here but the thing remains that barun has not quit for bollywood!
he officially has no project in hand apart from MAMR which is complete!
being in talks with producers n actually signing n working on a movie are 2 different things altogether...till date no official statement has been made by any party or a press release hasnt been held regarding a movie having barun on board...so i really cant believe that he quit for films!
none of us actually know wat happened behind the screens n all the theories r mere speculations...there can be little truth in all of them,who knows?
quitting such a popular show just before the release of his debut wud be foolish...any sane person wud want his fans' support fully n nobody is foolish to risk it this way!
also,a film generally takes around 4 monrths to go on floors...even if barun had other movie offers wouldnt he have continued with the show seeing that it was already ending in a month for sure as saraswati chandra team were instructed to go on floors within 10 days of this news broke out!
moreover,barun is on a contract with SP till next year...ekta ,such a shrewd businesswoman will definitely not pay SP compensation money for taking barun in her film!
another thing is that...SP chose to shut down the show n yet rajan singh continues to tweet that barun sanaya r family n he is planning on taking them to US n all...clearly the PH is at odds here both with the actor n probably the channel too!
shutting down IPk was a pure business decision gauging their investment n their estimate of profit/loss...the channel which never gave 2 hoots for an actor now suddenly shuts stop their most successful show coz a few online fans r pestering them...is that even believable?
so i really cant digest the fact that BS quit for movies...he may have other issues,who knows?
n talking abt spending time with family is so lame...every actor is here to work n earn money...he wud not quit the show which made him such a phenomenon for things like these!
n as for his history...nobody becomes an instant hit!
sanaya became recognised with mjht n it was ipk which gave her this star quality,KSG clicked with DMG after havin many not so popular shows in his kitty n kasauti where he was turned into an antagonist,drashti was liked in DMG but it was geet that gave her stardom...so on n so forth!
so the history thing doesnt count,d shows he worked in before didnt get the desired TRPs n thus shut down...barun's level of cpommitment cannot be judged from the fate of his shows in the past!

but i do agree that he badly needs a PR,he needs to stop that mumbo-jumbo confused speech n stick to one statement rather than a list of i-dont-knows n no-ideas!
this fiasco involved all parties n it is unfair to put the blame on one to save the ass of the others...it is crystal clear that the PH was disinterested,not only barun but other actors n members of the crew had issues with the PH ,SP did not want to kill their golden goose n wanted d show to continue against the wishes of the PH probably n hoped 4 a replacement too but later realized after SPL that they wud run at a loss if barun was replaced seeing the mass reception he got with SPL!
so i believe all were equally at fault n the inability of all the parties to stick to their decisions,PR blunders,hiding n half knowing things by SP n their inability to handle their show---all resulted in this mess!

again purely my opinion,ur free to disagree but this is strictly wat i feel!

Edited by medha16 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#99

Originally posted by: tonmoy009



u know bashers are the real fans .bcz they try to make sense of things. look at the matter from every single angle. i dont know who this ricky bahl is but what ever s/he said makes sense. no matter what bollywood, health, personal, professional anything he should not have leave the show at this point when he was bigger then the show . known worldwide. and after all of this still not saying what is the real reason for his well planed quite?

i chose to believe he is sick . real sick other then that every single reason is useless

Basher can be real fans too...maybe..
but someone who only posts ill things of BS can never his his true fan. I have seen so many post of the TM...maybe she is upset that he quit ipknnd..
I feel he has given us amazing 1.5 years...it is okay if he wants to move out and try films...He is just 28 ( if i am not mistaken)...it is never too late to try things in life...for all u know luck may favour him... It is his life...maybe he will really fail and come back to show...
I am gonna go and watch his movie...i want him to do well to silence his CRITICS forever😆
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: nonasi

I so don't wanna judge the guy, but it can't be helped...you made some valid points, quite a few of which I'm sure have crossed most of our minds at some point in the last few months.


I just hope it all works out for him and everyone that was connected to this show. What's done is done and ab toh bas usse sochna hi hoga ke aane wala kal ko kaise sudhaarega...lotsa introspection for everyone, it seems.

Yeah, I hope everyone from the cast moves on from this incident and remembers it as a learning experience. I'm sure everyone will get offers pouring in. I also hope that the crew also get jobs soon. What's done is done, there's no changing the past. But the future is yet in his power. So I hope he makes better decisions in the future for his career.

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