Right to expression of thought. a sad affair in IF

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Posted: 12 years ago
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NOTE. please click on the close button if u cant accept anyones opinion.


After the entire fiasco the issue still continues . About the entire drama'I have to say that neither I have any power over barun or control over him to make him do what I want ..I have no authority over his decisions. Similarly no one has authority over what one feels and thinks. I have the freedom to express what I feel on the issue as a fan of the show, a Star Plus viewer, being a part of the same entertainment industry barun works in. We in general times have take , an opinion on issues'But our take or comment doesn't make that change. My take or comment on this exit drama is that,,,, yes pH also played its part but it was mainly Barun had issues of his own but that was not all, he had a Bollywood planning and for me it was too early to sacrifice a strong Tv career for some few films and some issues that could be sorted out.

I stick to my stand similar as the whole entertainment industry has reacted to it. My stand cant be forced to change ..Nor do I impose my thoughts to others. For outrageous barun fans I completely understand about their condition as , he was less a tv actor for them but more of an object of desire, that it doesn't matter to them wherever he is seen they are fine with it.No problem, tv, films , theatre, street play..anything.. Only getting to see his face matters'not the medium and content.

Some have no problem with his quitting'and yes everyone has his/her own way to judge things. But calling thought against your views as inappropriate is totally uncalled. Comeon nobody can rule my stand on what I feel. I cant impose my decision to him but I can certainly pass a comment and discuss it with a people of same thinking. Calling his decision as callous should not be anyones's headache..beCause that is my opinion ,nobody can pass judgement.and some threads are kept for people who share the same view.

Those who believe barun is highly responsible( majorly the public outside and Industry) that thought cant be changed..and those who feel no barun's was part of conspiracy and he has done good by quitting, ..those thoughts can t be forced to change..iam fine now with it.

I don't have problem if both thoughts co-exist. Because coming time ahead will clear up many things. whether movie is hit or flop doesn't determne career. Career is determined when after your first few movies are released and some people are ready to offer u work for the upcoming years. If first movie Hit but no one to offer work'then no use of Hit. Because it happens in industry..a flop film hero gets 2-5 movies while a hero having a decent film opening hardly gets good projects.

In the forum i have extensively , indepthly , clearly, transparently narrated each and every aspect Unbiasedly how his decision to leave Tv now is totally wrong and inapt. I don't wanna narrate them again. Cause its futile. But I never thrusted my opinion on people.My posts were meant for ppl who share my POV..So I still stand by my comment that yes barun has done damage to himself by quitting.

Even barun knows that, in all interviews he has been saying- I don't know whether its Good or bad but I had to stand by it. Using the word BAD is sufficient to state his sceptical tone which tells even he fears.. IF'HIS DECISION HARMS HIM.?

Even Barun has doubt about his decision ,,,so its natural for many ppl like me to have doubts too.

Like the entire Industry is blaming him. I do too. Cant chnge it. Nor I have problem with the alternate view point ..iam fine with it'.to each his own.

these two posts tried to deal the after effects of his decision under sunlight

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/iss-pyaar-ko-kya-naam-doon/3224644/tv-actors-filmi-dreams-destiny

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/iss-pyaar-ko-kya-naam-doon/3278964/facing-the-reality

Damage is already done but seeing what lies ahead'Iam not going to detail but below are some strong reasons for his decision to be blamed for .Below are thr reasons .Those who totally oppose me can avoid it..cause I don't belive in forcing my thoughts.Its only for people who are of same opinion. Scroll down.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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tHe story so far

A show is launched , runs terrificly.. until January 2012 that one fine day the actor realizes ..he shud quit as he realizes his popularity is fetching him some offers. The producers convinces to continue the show 'The actor also thinks..yes this show is superb'let me continue and see how long I hold my interst. In april producer has to allow to do movie in order so that they don't lose him permanently.

He goes and comes back, The show is suffred somehow. The actor keeps on cribbing the producer'aur kitney din yeh show chalega,,??The producer loses cool and interst because actors are always the strenghth of show makers..Even producer thinks whats the use of doing this show, moreover if male lead is disinterested to do daily soap . Then I admit the other personal issues among PH and cast..to add fuel to the already existing fire. Producer loses motivation as the team is not supportive. Channel comes in scene and wants to run it anyhow..and then all the drama leading to closure.

Guys franky if barun would have stood by the producers then this situation wudnt have arrived.The Ph lacked motivation as the actor himself was confused with his career. The PH wudnt have lacked the drive if they now that the actor is with them. The producer daily morning they rise up with a tension what if tomorrow he leaves..and finally that happened.

Baruns TV career REPORT CARD till now

Shraddha- Flop. Closed down in three months by star plus.Producer- manish goswami

Dil mil gaye- SuperHit. Special appearance for unspeculated period (like sheetal, bubbly) Hit doesnt matter as it was KSG show. Producer- Sunil Mehta, Prem Kishen( cinevistaas) director- nissar parvez.

Baat hamaari pakki hai- Below average. Closed down in 6 months. Producer- Deeya singh, Tony Singh.

IPKKND- BLOCKBUSTER.. closed down due to actors's unsure filmi dreams . produced by rajesh chadhha ,Gul Khan, Nissar Parvez..

So u can see all he has worked before IPKKND was maximum 6 months in Baat hammari pakki hai. He doesn't like being a workaholic .He has no experience of working in a tv show for long period.He shouldn't have taken this ambitious project.

He gave us entertainment for 1.5 years but not as a charity. He was being paid by the PH and channel. Not a social service.

ARNAV singh raizada is the brand not barun sobti. Barun sobti's fanbase is all due to ASR not because he sings balwant kaur songs. The fans of raj malhotra(srk) of DDLJ would like to avoid RAONE but they are ready for Jab tak hai jaan .They know where they can find their romantic hero again. That's the issue.Utilising ur strength. Even after so many years the veteran actors don't come out of comfort zone.Just imagine. Barun sobti's name is famous in online medium.Outside world refers him as arnav..and whatever the remaining fanbase is interested to see barun as ASR . That's the problem that is why People wanting to do films shud avoid doin TV .Rajeev khandelwal is still under the shade of sujal garewal since he quit in 2004 may. 8 years gone still people aren't able to forget sujal.Some shows , roles are classic and shud be utilized as long as they give dividends..

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Forget movies offers , personal problems.

he doesnt like doing one thing for a long time. Actually he is uncomfortable being like other TV actors who work for 4-5 years. . So my question is since u know that if a show is Hit then u shud know actors work here for many years.

Actually he wants to do Tv where show gets over in 6 months and 1 year.Tell me is it possible in Indian tv ?. Or does he want to join a show and his show to be flop so that automatically the show gets closed by 6 months so that he can exit ..or replaced.

if u have so much of working problem, better dont join TV industry only na...

Try in films and modelling from beginning.

u cant travel in two boats together.

If another serious actor wud hv been in his place. that actor wud give away his life after seeing that he is such a bIG star in TV industry. People leave jobs when they dont get results for their work.But barun was being supported , appreciated even when the show had low TRP..isnt it great for any actor??? we all want appreciation..and he got that more than required.

My only problem is if u want to work in Tv only for small time, then u shud not take daily soaps ..

But if he thinks bollywood is waiting for him with garland..then he is wrong.

Films come and Go.. doesnt make diffrence. Without god father nothing possible.

that is why gracy singh with blockbusters like lagaan and Munnabhai is no where in the scene and Amisha patel with a good career start but a disastrous career is still continuing in 2013 with some big movies. reason is God father. Hit or flop doesnt matter that minutely.. an actor shud hv someone offering work regularly. Thts why barun says Tv is stable career.

Iam sorry , but Barun...belives in momentary happiness and pleasure. A sensible actor wud use his star power and ask channel that i will continue with ur show but in a year u hv to give me chance to do atleast two movies and use other tracks in my absence.

we dont get everything we want in our life according to ourselves... and when God gives us opportunity we shudnt show tantrums like...oh i cant work so long hours , this that.

tell me are other actors in Tv not working?? I see other SP actors have sufficient popularity, awards, good money from star plus and PH... and above all a better position than any ordinary bollywood hero.

i wud say even a star plus actor has a better public popularity than a great actor like Irfann Khan..hard to believe ,,but its like that.

MY ONLY EXPECTED THING

IPK majority is too much mesmerized to see arnav and Khushi due to which story becomes neglible at times. He wud be playing safe, reaching more International popularity and way back in india be the no. 1 Tv star replacing ram kapoor. Look this show being a love story to run for the 3rd year and fourth year wud never attempt some more drama like separation, family politics. AS some people were not ready for such changes. Even if Barun wudnt have movies also the PH wud have winded it by mid 2013 atleast by showing some more arshi romances in the end. . So it would be so better if the PH and the actor wud decide when to let them free forever.

Barun's exit drama has not just painted him black but has serious implications on his career.

The show should have ended naturally with all the cast but it was a forced closure that's why its more affecting.In this way neither actor, nor the Ph wud be blamed..sab khushi rehtey. Public wouldn't have had bitter feelings against barun as 95 % blames him that their favourite show is closed due to him.

This IPKKND was equal to 10 romantic Bollywood films.

11 years back a very big popular TV star left his No.1 show for cinema..And that time all people said go and chase ur dreams ,TV is boring, Films is ur place. Aftr this 11 years of harsh reality , he still struggles for his lost identity. History repeats…yes amar upadhyay was a heartthrob, good looks but now seen in telemarketing advertisements.

U NEVER KNOW IF BARUN CHANGES HIS MIND AHEAD…TO DO A SHOW WITH SANAYA AGAIN. . Alongside calls wishes and prayers needed too. But requests should reach barun too to do TV. Unless he decides not a single step ahead can be taken. it depends on him not channel or Ph entirely

Edited by RickyBahl - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Rishi too long post...sleepy now...will try to write more tomorrow...

Good post...I read quickly and got the essence...

In this forum if you voice for a ground or say what you believe then you are considered as basher and agent...I dont mind though...
Unfortunately people who give this titles bashes every other party except the hot hunk they are obsessed with...They want these actors life to be guided by their will, you know why because they claim them as fan and consumer...sad for both parties isnt it???
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Posted: 12 years ago
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lajawaab explanations👏

Gone time doesnt return back...

i wish to see SARUN again but as u said it all depends on BARUN SOBTI...whether he wants to work again or he will again say...that he doesnt like working streching hours in TV..

because as u said BW is not waiting for anybody ...
hope he returns Tv sooner
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Posted: 12 years ago
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ONE THING WOULD LIKE TO ADD IF U HAVE SO MUCH TIME ON GETTING THE INFROMATION ON BARUN,,, WHY DONT U BE HIS SECRETARY,,, GOOD ONE YAAR,,,,,
ACTUALLY REALLY EVEN V WERE NOT HAVING SO MUCH INFORMATION ABT HIM...
SO 3 POST CONTINUES,, THT MEANS U REALLY MISS HIM OR U R JEALOUS OF HIM.,,,,, OR,,,,
COME ON BASHING ALLOWED WITH UR COMMENTS,, GO ON...
SPK TRUTH FOR ONCE IN UR LIFE,,,,
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Luv_isnt_classy

Rishi too long post...sleepy now...will try to write more tomorrow...

Good post...I read quickly and got the essence...

In this forum if you voice for a ground or say what you believe then you are considered as basher and agent...I dont mind though...
Unfortunately people who give this titles bashes every other party except the hot hunk they are obsessed with...They want these actors life to be guided by their will, you know why because they claim them as fan and consumer...sad for both parties isnt it???


hey mahua..read in leisure...
basically i dont make posts to get hurried likes n comments..Its more as an expression of thought..to think., introspect . so u read in leisure ..for me views count more important
I just wanna say is...i dont hv right over barun's decision but that doesnt mean i dont have right to make a comment on a public figure or a celebrity.

Yes its a sad state..but whatever be...neither i can force anyone my way nor the other way round
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: KIRUCHINA150826

ONE THING WOULD LIKE TO ADD IF U HAVE SO MUCH TIME ON GETTING THE INFROMATION ON BARUN,,, WHY DONT U BE HIS SECRETARY,,, GOOD ONE YAAR,,,,,

ACTUALLY REALLY EVEN V WERE NOT HAVING SO MUCH INFORMATION ABT HIM...
SO 3 POST CONTINUES,, THT MEANS U REALLY MISS HIM OR U R JEALOUS OF HIM.,,,,, OR,,,,
COME ON BASHING ALLOWED WITH UR COMMENTS,, GO ON...
SPK TRUTH FOR ONCE IN UR LIFE,,,,


i dont want to impose my opinion on u...so u do the same thing..
the comment looks so imamteurish😆

jealous 😆...truly . u didnt understand my post only.
thats what i told..my posts may have no redemblance to his decision but its my POV..like all ppl in tv industry..and it cant be changed according to ur wishes..
u r free with ur own thought process...and please free to remain delusional..no problem
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Posted: 12 years ago
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r u the seceratary of barun or gul mataji seceratary😡
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Posted: 12 years ago
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DONT SPREAD NEGATIVITY

APNA OPINION KISI AUR KO JA KAR SUNNAO

BARUN KAY BARE M EK WORD NAE SUNNAY GAYE

BAS
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