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Posted: 12 years ago
talking about the international and also intelligent audience in india and overseas whatever age group or background they have are well intelligent and not just saas bahu types who stay at hm and watch serials .stay at homes audience is also a smart viewer remember they run the household how long a channel will sell them serials where saas makes bahu work only in kitchen and devrani spoil the broth .it doesnt happen happen anymore bahus as well saas are intelligent enough to know their boundaries now .my mom and bhabhi decided to live seperately and keep good relations even though my mom is very traditional and possesive about my bro. but todays day and age helped her to understand the neeed to let go and no kitchen politics played .
another serial on star had some bahu with constant pallu on her head .seroiusly i havent seen pallued bahu anywhere atleast in metro citiess and even in villages my hubby comes from village even there saas and bahu are comp savvy!
so for me there is nothing left in star to see on these grounds
and talking about chemistry in leads of actors in other shows of star - i seriuosly cannot watch them in one screen most of them all look like bro sis leaving one or two couple in the sissy serial which i havenot watched just had youtubed them b4 getting star
so star is out maybe i will kick zee also i am done
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: .Mandy.


Exactly many have already given up on IPK because of the weak storylines, now the rest will follow because their main reasons for watching are no longer there. This is what SP and PH fail to realize.

kernel's post cleared -that PH's statement on "story ran its course" - no one was aware -- the cast or crew...so obviously SP also didnt know...
and nt sure hw many knows -- Gorky handles the FB page --- so its very clear -- it was direct the "2Lions" (Gul nd Gorky) who did it...
Nissar too is not happy with the situation and says BS is innocent !!!
Edited by honeypriya - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
Fantastic thought-provoking post as always :) Only hope people start seeing beneath all the layers that are covering everything thats been happening - first port of call is always to start asking the right questions. We have so much passion for the show that it deserves some thought from us at least. Thanks again for giving me sanity and hope :)
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Posted: 12 years ago

Hi Priya,

Been waiting for your 3rd post!! As usual BRILLIANT👏!! Thank You so much for keeping us motivated in our fight!!👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

I feel like fandom is in the middle of a maze trying to get to the core (read truth) and in between PH/CVs are throwing wrenches in the form of interviews/articles and what not to confuse us and deviate our focus from getting to the core. And you are doing an able job of LOGICALLY cracking these wrenches and bringing the focus back to the forum.👏👏👏

Logic is the technique by which we add conviction to truth. ~ Jean de la Bruyere

LOVED your analogy of "Dimaag Se" and "Dil Se"……

CVs/PHs have messed with WRONG audience – I have always maintained that IPKKND has unique audience, audience that never believed in daily soaps or Saas bahu serials and this is the audience that is INTELLIGENT, believe in LOGIC and maintain a balance of DIMAAG and DIL, which is a dangerous COMBO!! If our DIL was captured by Sanaya's beauty and emotions then our DIMAAG was put to work by Arnav Singh Raizada. If we have put our HEARTS and soul into the show then we can definitely use our BRAINS to understand the logic and truth.

Irony, just yesterday I was asking you why there is no buzz about this uproar by fandom in the media and if there is a hand of PH/CVs in this and we do get an article in TOI titled "Story is the hero in tellyland" link below:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tv/Story-is-the-hero-in-tellyland/articleshow/17267206.cms

  • The moment fandom figured GUL is the reason behind Barun QUITTING the show - In her defense she releases interview with Barun.
  • We still don't believe her – She gets Sanaya's interviewed as a cover up.
  • We spamming Suzana Ghai – We get her interview in Tellychakkar, saying the characters are above the actors.
  • It only adds fuel to the fire – And as a cover up for her mistakes we get this article in TOI.

I am really amused with the impact "Bunch of people" are having on PH/CV🤣. The TOI article intelligently sidelines Barun and brushes aside the real issue😡. What really caught by attention is, in the list of actors who have BECOME NAMES TO RECKON there is Sakshi, Smiriti, Ram Kapoor etc and KARAN SINGH GROVER😲, and there are names like Aditya Redij and Mishal Raheja🤢 whom I had to google as I had no idea who they are, I wiki-ed them and honestly was ROFL looking at their tenure in the industry and the shows they did. Anyways interestingly no mention of BARUN or SANAYA or even GURMEET or DRASHTI, are these not the actors who have the BIGGEST FAN FOLLOWING? Are they not the ones who consistently win all sorts of polls?👍🏼

It was also interesting how some of the Producers were directly bashing the lead actors about commitment, how things change due to contract, extension of schedules and how actors site these reasons to leave the show and look for greener pastures blah blah.

Interesting statement in the article –

While actors seem to be keen on exploring more creative freedom and opportunities, production houses appear to be letting the story garner the respective show the required eyeballs.

Focus on red bold above, didn't 4Lions do exactly opposite to this😈?

Well in case of IPKKND it's the actors who garner MORE than required Eyeballs👏.

Barun and Sanaya elevated the characters of ARNAV and KHUSHI above the storyline. The reality is it's the characters we fell in love with be it ARNAV, KHUSHI, ANJALI, LAVANYA, EVEN SHYAM, for that matter LAKSHMI the goat😉!!!

The number of FF, OS, SS, VMs, PIC GALLERIES created by fans and number of analysis and posts created for each character, every day speak how MUCH THESE CHARACTERS moved the audience, touched the audience🤗!!

Is there any other show where the villain (Shyam) is loved so much😉? Is there any other show where even extras(HP, AMAN, MOHAN) are recognized and analyzed? Honestly I was really hoping that Abhaas will be back and was eagerly waiting for his return with "Daiyya ho" BG score…….alaas didn't know he was another victim of PH😡!!

Honestly the storyline of IPKKND was always weak but the characters made the storyline strong. This show has perfect ensemble of cast – You take any two characters/actors randomly and put them together and they will create chemistry be it Arnav Khushi, Arnav Anjali, Khushi Shyam, NK Buaji, Arnav Garima, Mamiji Nani, Arnav Dadi, Dadi Shyam…..👍🏼

Another interesting statement in the article -

"The storyline should not go haywire. It is the story which fetches the audience and not the other way round."

Well in case of IPKKND it's the leads who fetched the audience and retained the audience even when the storyline went haywire, even when you tried to butcher their characters, even when you dressed them in rags, even when you insulted them. Right from Promos it's the actors that caught our attention. Most of the audience of IPKKND got hooked to the show by chance viewing of videos on you tube, their sizzling chemistry and amazing acting.

DO YOU NEED PROOFS, WELL THE FACTS ARE OUT IN THE OPEN FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE – LOUD and CLEAR:

- IPKKND was never nominated in any awards show for its STORY!!

- BARUN was nominated in every awards show for BEST ACTOR!! – and WON too!!

- BARUN SANAYA were nominated in every awards show for BEST JODI!! – and WON too!!

- CVs have sold out shows abroad in the name of ACTORS (Read Barun Sanaya) not STORYLINE!!

- CVs use their ACTORS (and make mockery of them) to get airtime, viewership and TRPs on special occasions and celebrations (Star Diwali celebrations, Barun Sanaya promoting Teri Meri Love Stories, UK SPL etc etc). Can they do all this with stories?

Logic takes care of itself; all we have to do is to look and see how it does it. ~ Ludwig Wittgenstein

The truth is, IPKKND is about ARNAV KHUSHI and BARUN SANAYA and it cannot be CHANGED!! IPKKND cannot exist without these two!! - BAS BOL DIYA!!


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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: honeypriya

kernel's post cleared -that PH's statement on "story ran its course" - no one was aware -- the cast or crew...so obviously SP also didnt know...
and nt sure hw many knows -- Gorky handles the FB page --- so its very clear -- it was direct the "2Lions" (Gul nd Gorky) who did it...
Nissar too is not happy with the situation and says BS is innocent !!!



I always thought Nissar was the most sensible...glad to know his opinion on this issue. Why hasnt he come out?

Gorky handles the FB page? You mean the "maaf bhi karo" was written by him?😲 Was he behind the dont talk to strangers bit as well?😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
chalo ab mere andar ki feminist bhi jaag gayi...😆 as SP /PH has doubted intelligence of household women and those working women..underestimating power they have... What a mess they have created, everyone specially both SP and PH..This production house has so much at stake- what could have been avoided by simple press release -official statement,they made it into bigger headache for themselves as they underestimated their viewers. So what did they loose as they have other shows and other channels. Let me tell you what they loose...
- reputation in market- Everyone must have now realised their capability in handling actors/viewers and differences with channel.
- By this whole fiasco,it would have impacted channel's future decision on shows by current PH on their channels and even there sister channels.
- Whole situation must have been gauged by those channels who are currently running their shows and if they have any intelligence over this matter- they will be fully aware of risks involved in dealing with such production house.
- As a professional,keeping my emotional quotient aside and as a person who works in an industry where Customer is King. Here customer is your viewer. You dont mess with your existing viewers to create new viewers. And if SP believes in loyal viewers,they should know this fact too...
chalo now back to my work...priya thanks for continuously fighting for a cause.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: --Nishita--

Nissar is not associated with IPK right now -- so he doesnt hv much say...(thats all I can tell for now)
and yes Gorky handles the IPK web pages - when the note came, though we were enraged -- that time only i knew the bigger purpose -- we might thing stupid choice of words -- bt there was lots of "stupid strategy" in that -- and only one extra smart fellow wrote that...
I had initially thought Gautam wrote it...lol...later realised he was not even aware of it (poor guys, except the Producers whose names come in the credit, no one was even aware wats happening -- ) -- so isnt that clear who else could have written it 😉

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Posted: 12 years ago
A war between dil and dimag...but what about the people who lack both? 😲
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Posted: 12 years ago
don't have dil, sp and dear 4lions, understandable.

in this harsh business environment who has that.

but don't have dimaag?

unthinkable.

losing money for your company with your inability to gauge the market and the situation at hand, your unwillingness to take responsibility, surreptitious campaigns against actors, just plain killing off of a winning product.

a sure moneyspinner and you don't want it. brilliant minds here.

heck, if i had the money, i'd buy out the serial and get some smart ph to carry on with it. i am amazed some powerful production house hasn't put in a bid already.

asr/khushi, barun/sanaya, rabba vey, writers, arshad khan, raju singh, a can't go wrong combination really.

but with this insanity, you will only lose.

audiences at home and abroad, revenue, face.

and try what you will, barun sobti's fan following will not decrease.

certainly no one will be able to replace him. also, let's see if sanaya irani who was part responsible for bringing out the asr in barun, as he was in triggering khushi, will be ok to act with someone else.

thanks, priya,
dil se dimaag se we have loved, shows in every post of yours. 👏 👏 👏


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