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Posted: 12 years ago
This has fishy written all over!!. Everyone is talking in riddles and round about answers etc. I completely fed up, right now i don't even care about the show. The show ended for me with the ARSHI remarriage,

I WANT ANSWERS ON WHY THE VIEWERS ARE BEING TREATED LIKE FOOLS!! ITS HIGH TIME SOMEONE ANSWERS ALL THE ANSWERS NOT JUST SOME...
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Prakal

Hi Priya,

Been waiting for your 3rd post!! As usual BRILLIANT👏!! Thank You so much for keeping us motivated in our fight!!👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

I feel like fandom is in the middle of a maze trying to get to the core (read truth) and in between PH/CVs are throwing wrenches in the form of interviews/articles and what not to confuse us and deviate our focus from getting to the core. And you are doing an able job of LOGICALLY cracking these wrenches and bringing the focus back to the forum.👏👏👏

Logic is the technique by which we add conviction to truth. ~ Jean de la Bruyere

LOVED your analogy of "Dimaag Se" and "Dil Se"''

CVs/PHs have messed with WRONG audience ' I have always maintained that IPKKND has unique audience, audience that never believed in daily soaps or Saas bahu serials and this is the audience that is INTELLIGENT, believe in LOGIC and maintain a balance of DIMAAG and DIL, which is a dangerous COMBO!! If our DIL was captured by Sanaya's beauty and emotions then our DIMAAG was put to work by Arnav Singh Raizada. If we have put our HEARTS and soul into the show then we can definitely use our BRAINS to understand the logic and truth.

Irony, just yesterday I was asking you why there is no buzz about this uproar by fandom in the media and if there is a hand of PH/CVs in this and we do get an article in TOI titled "Story is the hero in tellyland" link below:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tv/Story-is-the-hero-in-tellyland/articleshow/17267206.cms

    The moment fandom figured GUL is the reason behind Barun QUITTING the show - In her defense she releases interview with Barun. We still don't believe her ' She gets Sanaya's interviewed as a cover up. We spamming Suzana Ghai ' We get her interview in Tellychakkar, saying the characters are above the actors.
  • It only adds fuel to the fire ' And as a cover up for her mistakes we get this article in TOI.

I am really amused with the impact "Bunch of people" are having on PH/CV🤣. The TOI article intelligently sidelines Barun and brushes aside the real issue😡. What really caught by attention is, in the list of actors who have BECOME NAMES TO RECKON there is Sakshi, Smiriti, Ram Kapoor etc and KARAN SINGH GROVER😲, and there are names like Aditya Redij and Mishal Raheja🤢 whom I had to google as I had no idea who they are, I wiki-ed them and honestly was ROFL looking at their tenure in the industry and the shows they did. Anyways interestingly no mention of BARUN or SANAYA or even GURMEET or DRASHTI, are these not the actors who have the BIGGEST FAN FOLLOWING? Are they not the ones who consistently win all sorts of polls?👍🏼

It was also interesting how some of the Producers were directly bashing the lead actors about commitment, how things change due to contract, extension of schedules and how actors site these reasons to leave the show and look for greener pastures blah blah.

Interesting statement in the article '

While actors seem to be keen on exploring more creative freedom and opportunities, production houses appear to be letting the story garner the respective show the required eyeballs.

Focus on red bold above, didn't 4Lions do exactly opposite to this😈?

Well in case of IPKKND it's the actors who garner MORE than required Eyeballs👏.

Barun and Sanaya elevated the characters of ARNAV and KHUSHI above the storyline. The reality is it's the characters we fell in love with be it ARNAV, KHUSHI, ANJALI, LAVANYA, EVEN SHYAM, for that matter LAKSHMI the goat😉!!!

The number of FF, OS, SS, VMs, PIC GALLERIES created by fans and number of analysis and posts created for each character, every day speak how MUCH THESE CHARACTERS moved the audience, touched the audience🤗!!

Is there any other show where the villain (Shyam) is loved so much😉? Is there any other show where even extras(HP, AMAN, MOHAN) are recognized and analyzed? Honestly I was really hoping that Abhaas will be back and was eagerly waiting for his return with "Daiyya ho" BG score''.alaas didn't know he was another victim of PH😡!!

Honestly the storyline of IPKKND was always weak but the characters made the storyline strong. This show has perfect ensemble of cast ' You take any two characters/actors randomly and put them together and they will create chemistry be it Arnav Khushi, Arnav Anjali, Khushi Shyam, NK Buaji, Arnav Garima, Mamiji Nani, Arnav Dadi, Dadi Shyam'..👍🏼

Another interesting statement in the article -

"The storyline should not go haywire. It is the story which fetches the audience and not the other way round."

Well in case of IPKKND it's the leads who fetched the audience and retained the audience even when the storyline went haywire, even when you tried to butcher their characters, even when you dressed them in rags, even when you insulted them. Right from Promos it's the actors that caught our attention. Most of the audience of IPKKND got hooked to the show by chance viewing of videos on you tube, their sizzling chemistry and amazing acting.

DO YOU NEED PROOFS, WELL THE FACTS ARE OUT IN THE OPEN FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE ' LOUD and CLEAR:

- IPKKND was never nominated in any awards show for its STORY!!

- BARUN was nominated in every awards show for BEST ACTOR!! ' and WON too!!

- BARUN SANAYA were nominated in every awards show for BEST JODI!! ' and WON too!!

- CVs have sold out shows abroad in the name of ACTORS (Read Barun Sanaya) not STORYLINE!!

- CVs use their ACTORS (and make mockery of them) to get airtime, viewership and TRPs on special occasions and celebrations (Star Diwali celebrations, Barun Sanaya promoting Teri Meri Love Stories, UK SPL etc etc). Can they do all this with stories?

Logic takes care of itself; all we have to do is to look and see how it does it. ~ Ludwig Wittgenstein

The truth is, IPKKND is about ARNAV KHUSHI and BARUN SANAYA and it cannot be CHANGED!! IPKKND cannot exist without these two!! - BAS BOL DIYA!!


Well this is what media writes😆..ask them what happend with show after mishal raheja left.. I can tell you ..I left watchin it..Angryno comparison in two actors 😆 coz I definately love barun more than anyone ..even Salman khan😆..but everytime a main lead is replaced , TRPs do have effect ,if their CEO thinks that gopi vahu is still goin strong...without any probs...tell her ppl mainly dont watch show for gopi vahu..they watch it for the one who plays her saas as she gets more dialogue and weightage...and obviously their audience is different from audience watchin IPK...Ab toh main bhi kahungi- Hai re nandkishore..are they so short sighted !!
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Posted: 12 years ago

Priya, so according to this reliable source whoever they might be, Barun really wants to go, so how can we stop him??
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Posted: 12 years ago
This is such a mind numbing experience... I wonder what that poor soul Sobti must be going through... sandwiched between his mind and heart... and still unable to do what he must be wishing deep inside his heart... 😕

My question is - Why couldn't SP anticipate the mess earlier?? As I understand, there are channel creatives also who are involved right through the track inception and execution... so couldn't they see how scripts were changed... how story was rushed... how characters were suddenly turned upside down.. don't they evaluate their own products other than just looking at the TRP figures to gauge if things are going ok or not??...

Also, when the final ownership of IPK vests with SP, how does the PH take liberty to write stuff like "story has run its course" through their "interactive" forum??... shouldn't this hold them guilty legally in whatever contracts they have with SP??
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Posted: 12 years ago
Just read the TOI article and while it brings up some valid points, the author fails to realize IPK is different from the rest. Yes PR worked but that show had a story going for it, albeit a disaster one but it worked because the show took a leap and attracted a whole new audience. The same cannot be said for IPK, parallel tracks failed to attract viewers due to character assassinations, half of the cast is now gone, there is no story at the moment and Barun is leaving soon exactly what is going to be left to pull viewers in? Arnav and Khushi have consistently remained the biggest draw of this show through thick and thin, if one half of this hit jodi departs then so will fans because there will be nothing to keep them tuned in. This is what SP fails to see, IPK will never be like the rest
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: pixiegirl


Priya, so according to this reliable source whoever they might be, Barun really wants to go, so how can we stop him??

I don't think it's reliable ,

I think it's just for diverting our mission.


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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: nandu_2007

I don't think it's reliable ,


I think it's just for diverting our mission.


Oh is that what Priya meant?? LOL I didn't understand :)
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: .Mandy.

Just read the TOI article and while it brings up some valid points, the author fails to realize IPK is different from the rest. Yes PR worked but that show had a story going for it, albeit a disaster one but it worked because the show took a leap and attracted a whole new audience. The same cannot be said for IPK, parallel tracks failed to attract viewers due to character assassinations, half of the track is now gone, there is no story at the moment and Barun is leaving soon exactly what is going to be left to pull viewers in? Arnav and Khushi have consistently remained the biggest draw of this show through thick and thin, if one half of this hit jodi departs then so will fans because there will be nothing to keep them tuned in. This is what SP fails to see, IPK will never be like the rest

Hai re nand kishore Again an invalid comparison...Do these people know their audience...😲..Arey PR worked coz more than jodi - emphasis was on female lead..it worked as they showed leap and focus was on new jodi that came onscreen...Waise ekta kapoor has better experience in handling shows...she know her audience well...this credit to her👏
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Posted: 12 years ago
Loved the post priya...

Sp is all playing am ignoring everything game till spl...
Ph are enigma...i still dont get the purpose priya...the makers who came up with an open letter telling the story has run its course has never acted accordingly to whatever they said..say they cud have easily wrapped the show blaming anyone or whatever ..but they dint...this shows there is something more than what meets the eye...

And head of creative comparing two totally different characters made me go what the!!! U gotta be kidding me...ppl like us who can notice a small change in editing to wardrobe disaster do we like normal show and norml audiences!!!
my cos jus said this...y ipk was unique was the diferent story..freshness and characters ...when we miss any other show say for a week and we watch next week we will still know wats happening..but with ipk thats wasnt the case,..we never knew wats in store,..This comes from a normal tv trp audience who has no clue abt the offscreen hungama...what ph and sp fail to realise is the story line has gone for a toss and ppl stuck to show despite all for the couple...!!!!!

The articles talkin abt these uproar in a decent manner r not brought to light or rather not creating the buzz either...both sp and ph have nothing to say on matters which requires a clearance...well shud say along with storyline the pr skills have gone on a hiatus!!!

Well looks like ph r gonna play ard with whatever they possibly get..play the blame game where they r the highest scorers..well eod all forget the fandom..viwers who stuck by all..and well now they better get ready for answers...
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Posted: 12 years ago
awesome post priya ! thanks a lot.👏

i really can't thank enough lovely people like u [though i don't know u guys personally ] , indi, rima, zoha, nishi, for boosting up the TRUE fans of mr. sobti by ur well written posts.
🤗

some people watch this serial for barun, some for sanaya and some for sarun. as i mentioned earlier in ur post the forum has become BS fans vs SI fans today. some people may say WE WANNA SEE THINGS AS WE WANNA SEE , but both my heart and brain never stop asking questions, cos I TRULY SEE THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG SOME WHERE.

i'll not be surprised if SP drags this situation untill SPL ends cos as far as i've seen it's just SHOWBIZZ for them.

i'll be the one for those people who will rejoice if i hear that the PH has being kicked out. 😈 but i have no idea how can even a new PH fix these crappy tracks.

ok.i know there's 0.00001 chance of changing the PH. if they stay or if a new PH takesover, according to my view these are the tracks i think they must show.

aarav's true parents come and take him back.
[ cos a newly wedded couple need more space ]

the most wanted SR track 😉

true love for anjali and nk.

bring back shyam from jail and how arshi and raizada family deal with his traps.

bring back payash, mamaji and laxmi as they can contribute ideas for evil shyam plans. [not laxmi for sure 😆]

payal pregnant

shashi babuwa revealing abt shyam

shyam revealing abt 6 months contract marriage and guptas getting upset on arnav.[ arnav repenting and saying sry]

arnav's chachaji comes creating new problems

kushi's past

kushi pregnant...etc..etc...


after every interview they have given, my heart has broken for sure. but still i visit IF to check what's going on and to see a topic saying 'yipee sobti's back, our ipkknd is back ' ,praying that my hubby want think i've gone mad over a daily soap. 😆


good luck for us ! 😛


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