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Posted: 12 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: indi52



for that in red 🤗

and in black bold 👏 👏 👏 you reminded me again of so many things. this is a beautiful character, not because he is one dimensional, perfectly fathomable, or even completely likable. you have to love him or hate him. no half measures here. us leo girls have made our choice. even when we quibble over issues.

i have great love for khushi too and hate it when she's even slightly messed with. after that february wedding, i thrilled to khushi's words, her deep fiery feelings, and her rage. he was wrong, but i knew why he was blinded and never asked her anything. he was too scared that what he saw might indeed be true and to hear it from her lips. no. beautiful what you say about feeling better when you realised he had his garden, his mother's thoughts to go to when he needed something outside our concrete space as we often do. no god, but a pure, touched by divine memory sanctuary.

ok, why it feels fine to me that he wants a wish and some attention from khushi. someone else pointed out here who identifies with him, that she senses a little boy in him, i do too. there is that side to him. that wants a bit of fuss around him. but he doesn't want it from the whole wide world. just and only his khushi. she touches him in a way no one else does. not even his di. he wants her to guess what he wants. to understand him in the way only a lover understands. and he wants to just be with her on his birthday. asr for the first time in his life has wanted something for himself. khushi. he does want a different nuanced understanding from her. he reveals his fragile side only to her, his need for her love is so clear. but he is not claustrophobic in his demands, just these little really imp things. call me arnav. sit next to me and hold my hand. wish me on my birthday and spend a little time with me. our intimate, special place. jee nahin paaoonga tumhare bina i may not be too clear, but you do understand, don't you?



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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: indi52


thanks, ranjitha

especially reading that in red made my day. takes a while to get it, but no human being wants someone else to change them. my asr has told me to let him be often, just as i have him. we are so very different, what keeps us together is that feeling of can't live without you. now i've come to enjoy our different ways.

i feel though khushi has the base and strength to really understand asr and let him be, to understand, love is not about making someone be the way you want them to be. she has told him she won't try to change him the night he spoke of his mother finally. it was at her "i don't mean to change you," that he just let go finally.

she has noticed how hard he has tried to do everything she wants. maybe this track will take her to those two thoughts finally and she will admit, she loves asr as he is. her dear sweet khadooos madly sexy laad governor?

as to all the passion and romance that has mysteriously gone on holiday, my rant in the other thread. 😆

thanks so much. always good to see you.



Ahh a perfect reply 😊
See I remember fighting with my manager for 2 hours when he had asked me to learn diplomacy 😆 Each one of us have our own set of rules.. these rules should not be judged; neither should somebody try to change it, unless that rule is causing a problem to rest. Arnav doesnt like to celebrate his birthday; fair enough; but his wife wants to make his day special; good intention; but what's wrong here is her way. As I said before, we get 101 ways to mend things so that me and my partner can be happy, but when we start intruding their space and try to make them the way we want to see them, it will strain our relationship. Today, when Arnav will shout at Khushi, people will not take a minute to bash him saying their poor khushi was manhandled by the shaitaan of this forum, but I really want them to place themselves in his shoes and think...

Khushi has just said but never ever has followed the mantra 'I accept you the way you are', I really hope at least this time Khushi tries to think from ASR's POV.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Di.. updated my 2 cents on pg 2
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ranjitha



Indi Dii

Not many will agree with you. Khushi has a noble intention behin all this is what many will reply to you, but I, as always dont want to buy this... Every person is different from the rest, and we need to respect and aceept our loved ones the way they are... I love celebrating my birthday but my ASR doesnt, but till date I have never even questioned it... Its his way of leading his life and I should respect that. But with ASR-Khushi its not so. Khushi has always wanted Arnav to change.. be it dancing, applying mehndi or proposing to her in front of the entire family... And yesterday too I felt really bad for ASR... Doesnt that man have any right to lead his life the way he wants? Was that the only way for her to make him realize the importance of 'WISHES'? Is it a crime to have an opinion that birthdays need not be CELEBRATED? Couldnt she just wish him and make his day special by spending some time with him?
I have 100 more such questions, but alas Khushi will never even bother think about any of these !!!
The measurement scene in their room left a bad taste in my mouth... thats not the kind of KAAMEDY I appreciate.
As I said on crooner, the raw passion, romance and the 'sensitive' touch is royally missing in IPK.

Finally as I always say, just because you are good, you have a noble heart and you do everything with a good intention, your actions need not be RIGHT ALWAYS.


Hey Khushi was psyched by the family that she shud not even wish him..right?? Remember Akash telling NK t will happen if he wishes him...and Arnav told her that he doesn't want anything special..he assumed that she will not listen to him as always and surprise him...she is doin that but in her style...from her POV it's wrong of hm t tell her she can't celebrate his bday or make t special..that's how she is..

And don't forget he forced her to celebrate her bday like he wanted against he wishes..
The measurement scene was very cute I felt...but each to his own...Khushi wanted to gif him something...he didn't agree to give the suit...so she used he ingenious tactics..


He did nt spell out what exactly he wanted either...and we have nt seen how she will celebrate his bday yet..s let's see...I don want balloons and public celeb either..let's wait..

And yes Khushi did n ask him t change Atleas explicitly...the temple going...agreeing to rituals etc was situational... I don think he will be shown as regularly doin all that..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I agree with the post. This is the reason why I did not care much for yesterday's episode. This reverse psychology did not work for me.

I was upset yesterday because Khushi was "deliberately" tadpao-ing ASR. As it is, there is no feeling of man-woman love in their relationship at the moment. What pleasure was she getting out of making him feel bad. All this for teaching him a lesson? Is this some kind of competition. what was wrong in wishing him and asking him what is it that he would like to do on his special day and go from there.

I am not very impressed with Khushi that we are seeing these days. They are potraying her as smug, full of herself, I am always right and a loud person. People may say she was always like this. It is the degree that has changed. She is now almost a caricature of an Indian Soap bahu. She is not only loved but revered by all including elders. She can do no wrong. Even if she does something wrong, it is not actually wrong because it was done with good intentions. She is perfect. So where are the flaws which she is supposed to have.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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To begin with, let me just thank you for making such an endearing post ..really touched my heart, so much that I felt I should pen down my thoughts even though I am not half as good as you are with words! I started watching this show only a month back and fell in love with the characer of ASR..this has got nothing to do with how good Barun Sobti looks..just clarifying incase people say Im drooling over a hot guy for nothing..No its the character of Arnav Singh Raizada that has really drawn me to this show. from day 1 we got flashes of the humane side of his otherwise ruthless character whenever he was with his di..he was arrogant, airheaded, rude, obnoxious but for his di he has always been much more than a lil brother..sometimes its hard to tell who is elder of the two ..I was so touched by his lil gestures that showed so much love, affection and protectiveness for her..the slighest hint of something that could possibly cause her pain and he would get alarmed..that was the side of his character that only few people could stir till Khushi walked into his life and changed his whole world... From day one, they had clashes, misunderstandings, fights and what not..but even in that I noticed how everytime he hurt her, he felt apologetic..something he had never felt before for anyone other than di..I loved the contradictions in his thoughts and actions when he was struggling to comprehend the feelings he was slowly but surely developing for Khushi..Especially the diwali night, when he was mesmerised by her lush and radiant beauty and almost kissed her on the poolside..But as soon as he realised that he prolly stepped out of his character, he put his facade on and announced his engagement to Lavanya..Khushi was devastated and he understood but dint respond ..why would he? He was ASR back then! But when the same thing struck him..when Khushi announced her engagement ,he couldn't handle it.. as if some1 took away his reason for existence..loved the track that followed .Both aware of each others feelings yet helpless..then payal akash wedding saw some beautiful moments between the two..Arnav was still ASR, in control of everything, knows exactly what he wants and how to get it..even Khushi couldnt resist his bold advances, proximity and passionate gazes despite of making many futile attempts to escape from the situations..But as fate would have it, the day he decided to propose her for marriage, he saw Khushi, the woman he loved and wanted , in some1 else's arms..his own brother in law..his whole world came crashing down...he was impulsive ..true..wrong in not asking her for an explanaition ..true !!! But I dont think his decision to marry Khushi was wrong..even though it was based on a wrong assumption..Coz I look at it from an angle where he actually saved Khushi from Shyam by announcing to the world that she's not alone and no1 can dare make advances at her..that she is now HIS wife..other than obviously saving his sister's wedding in the only way he could think of at that point after hearing she was pregnant.. He was mad with anger and revenge ..hated Khushi from his head but from his heart could he ever hate her? NO! Still remember the flash of anger on his face when Garima hit Khushi..Still remember how he was restless the whole night thinking that she might be cold and uncomfortable outside..I actually think that was the best part of ArShi relationship I saw..he tried so hard to hate her but never really succeeded.. My heart went out to him the day he lied to Khushi about the fainting incident..how he made everything seem like cheap trick by him to fool her just so that she dsnt feel guilty..i still remember how he was so worried for her when her parents turned her away from their house for the pagphere rasam..he did everything that one would expect of a dutiful son in law to Khushi's family despite of having a farce marriage..But once the truth was out, that was when all his emotions surfaced out so beautifully..all the transformation that was happening all this while became so evident..he did everything in his power to win her back and get her back to his house..It was such a pleasure to see the romantic lover boy side of ASR's character ..maybe we can start calling him Arnav from this point onwards..he became the quintissential lover every woman would want in her life...agreeing to perform all rituals, walking up the stairs of the temple for her, dancing for her, standing upto dadi to protect her from her wrath, forgetting and forgiving everything related to past to embrace life with Khushi on his side..I have said this before that I think ASR has more than redeemed himself..he dsnt need to change at all now..about the birthday celebration..yes I too felt bad for him coz we know this is not the ASR people think he is..this is Khushi's Arnav ...eventhough he mite have wanted to celebrate it quietly with her but I know he'l be happy as long she is happy..and it'l all come down to him thinking fine if this is what makes her happy, so be it..but if you ask me honestly I would want Khushi to realise what he really wants I know she's not naive like they are making her out to be..she understood he wanted to make love to her in the farmhouse..now she cant understand that all he wants is a simple wish on his birthday? lets see how things turn out tomorrow..thanks again for this wonderful post..I realise I went overboard .my apologies :)
Edited by vaishali-AR - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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indi thoughtful post
the celebrations i feel is not to change him
but to get him enjoy his life and feel being special
without the anger quotient and accept it with heart
she could have wished him happy birthday and moved on
but she wanted that B day wishes to be special
and make him cherish his day
she is showing that he s special to her in her way
make his life colorful where he s been in dark
but i feel somewhere he wanted all this attention
but sadly family couldnt understand him
may be that was the reason for his anger and wanting to be alone
now he s getting it and longing for more attention
along with his 14 years of heart desires is peeking out slowly

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: prettypri


Hey Khushi was psyched by the family that she shud not even wish him..right?? Remember Akash telling NK t will happen if he wishes him...and Arnav told her that he doesn't want anything special..he assumed that she will not listen to him as always and surprise him...she is doin that but in her style...from her POV it's wrong of hm t tell her she can't celebrate his bday or make t special..that's how she is..

And don't forget he forced her to celebrate her bday like he wanted against he wishes..
The measurement scene was very cute I felt...but each to his own...Khushi wanted to gif him something...he didn't agree to give the suit...so she used he ingenious tactics..


He did nt spell out what exactly he wanted either...and we have nt seen how she will celebrate his bday yet..s let's see...I don want balloons and public celeb either..let's wait..

And yes Khushi did n ask him t change Atleas explicitly...the temple going...agreeing to rituals etc was situational... I don think he will be shown as regularly doin all that..



Hi
This is not the first time Khushi has done something which she has strictly been asked not to 😆 I am not doubting her intentions, not am I telling she doesnt love him, all I want to say is, there are lot many ways to make this day special than what is being shown. ASR forced her to celebrate her bday? yes, I hate that cake feeding scene, but hasnt Khushi, at least according to fum, always been better in showing love? Also Khushi did throw a lot of tantrums on her bday, inspite of Arnav trying his best to woo her. He tried every possible thing, thinking, this might impress her... She had demanded that he would wish her, and he did that. She wanted her bday to be the way she wanted, then cant it be the same for him? Make it special, make him happy, but we should not try to change the basic principles of our partners is what I exactly meant.

Rahi baat measurement scene ki, my problem is with the script writer and the director, more than the character here... I will still stick to it, I did not like that scene.

Cheers 😊

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