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Posted: 12 years ago
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thank you, and thanks for reading. 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Like your post.
Infact even I was a little apprehensive about this whole remarrage issue. But guess its more for the TRPs. and by the way this TRPs and numbers I dont understand and cannot see how its so high for some shows.
That apart, I guess Arnav who did not want it initially agreed because of his over bearing dadi who was hell bent on calling hos beloved a s**t and insulting her family. Because even in the previous episodes he was never for the rasams or the remarraige, infact I guess they also want to show us that Arnav can do anything for his loved ones even if it is not what he wants or even believes in.
But what sanctity is left when they lived together in the same room for 6 months, are hugging each other at every opportunity, too many kisses and missed lip kiss, share the same bed and are jumping at every given opportunity to take care of each other and dont need words to tell each other about their love.
But we are not the CVs and not sure what they have planned with this entire sequences - hopefully not another MU, separation and another round of wooing and another marriage ceremony with all rituals. Thats will then sound the death knell of IPKKND for me.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Indi di!!! fab post!!!!

N coming to the remarriage, I too wanted a quiet private one, just the two of them!! N to talk more on that I dont think I can do any justice coz I can't think beyond ASR/BS when it comes to the show!! U know na di how I am!!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: hiahmed

i have gone through everyone's mail and here is my POV. i have watched all the Arshi scenes from the beginning and my opinion is based on my evaluation ARNAV SINGH RAIZADA - behind the gruff exterior exists a child of 14 who was forced to grow up in the wake of tragedy and was dead afraid of losing someone he loved, which is why he told hi Di that if he ever finds his soul mate, he will stay away from her, which is what he did when he met Khushi. Khushi affected him from the word go and he did everything she asked him to do however grudgingly. Arnav has always been afraid to express his love and therefore during the La episode, he tried everything to make Khushi say the magical words first. when he realised that he cannot continue with La, he again tried to stay away from Khushi but was unable to do so. Khushi boke through all his barriers and when he finally opened up to her, the MU started and he went back in his shell.

even then he was unable to push her out completely and he felt her pain at every moment but as he himself said that the terrace scene was engraved in his mind, he could never free himself
when he was kidnapped, the reason of his ILU was the fear that he will never be able to see his love again and he did not want to leave without letting her know.
eversince he has come back, the only person who has cared abt him is Khushi; even though he lashed out on her (even here i can see his POV), he never wanted her to leave. but again his innate fear took hold of him and instead of trying to stop her with his love, he tried other tactics (read contract, rent fiasco etc)
i think he would never have expressed his love to Khushi if DADI had not appeared in the scene. remember that Arnav is very possessive. even if he hurts Khushi he cannot allow anyone else to do so. the hurried up SR was just an attempt by Arnave to 'seal the deal' so that noone could separate him from his Khushi
it is only now in the face of adversity (read DADI) that he has realised how much Khushi means to him and that he cannot let her go. the unconditional love that Khushi has showered on him has broken through all the walls that he had created around his heart and teh 14 year old boy is out in open bc he knows that his Khushi will never hurt him
P.S: normally i dont get any replies on my posts. i would appreciate if i had some comments on this one


@ hiahmed,

hi we haven't met. i am indi. lovely post, and beautiful look at arnav singh raizada. i agree with you about almost all of it. couple of things only, i don't think it took dadi's advent for him to realise his utter need for khushi. what he'd started to see clearly while in captivity, and articulated during their telepathic conversation, became absolutely crystal clear to him when he thought she was dead. he couldn't live without her. that memorable cliff scene was really about that i felt.

dadi's rejection i thought gave him the opportunity to further explore his commitment and make it quite clear to all concerned how pivotal khushi was in his life.

at bold up there, do you think he was trying to make khushi say the words first or was he still trying to understand and give words to his own feelings to himself. i thought it was the latter.

you love and understand asr and that makes your post sparkle. i love this character too. thanks for writing.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

I DID want an ARHI re-marriage since the scene at GH, when ASR hears Khushi tell her freinds what sort of wedding she always wanted to have!

I wanted him to make HER dream come true by marrying her in this way! I think in the ORIGINAL plan of IPK, that was how it was supposed to go! I think in that plan, Khushi was going to leave after the 6 months, and ASR is shut out by her totally!
HE trys to get her attention, and even harms himself in the process! I think finally she gives in, as she loves him too and cant watch him self destruct! THEN they would have had a re-marriage, as it would have come after a certain period of seperation!
THAT was what I was waiting for! They could have shown a "Courteship" phase for them like they are sort of doing now! THAT to me is the only real CHARM of the Re-marriage! The fact that Khushi and Arnav get to have that "Courtship" phase that all couples have before they get married! That phase is always such a beautiful one full of lifetime memories!
I was SO looking forward to the seperation track where Arnav would have been going crazy with guilt and trying to win Khushi back! Maybe Khushi would have re-entered the working world, and worked for a rival of ASR! This man could have fallen for Khushi and proposed to her, and ASR would have come to know and been jelouse! They could have done SO MUCH with those tracks! The TRP would have hit the ROOF like during the NK jelousey track!!
I STILL dont know why the CV's did this 360! I know the kidnapping was needed! BUT they could STILL have had Khushi leave after Arnav accuses her of being the problem and THEN they could have shown all of the above, until he wins her back and re-marries her!


I'm glad you brought this up. Yes, its mystifying where all those promises of pyaar turning to ishq and ishq turning to junoon went 😊

There were some spoilers on the forum from (otherwise) reliable sources on these lines, that Arnav would regret like crazy and would even harm himself in his drive to win Khushi's love and trust back.

Gul's interview was also on similar lines, that when Arnav realized how much he'd hurt Khushi and damaged her life for no fault of hers, he'd be consumed by guilt and remorse.

But so far, though we FINALLY had a sorry scene which lasted 3 minutes flat 😊, haven't seen any sign of this junoon...And its a pity, too, for Barun would have absolutely nailed this track.

You're right, they could so well have shown Khushi walking out with her head held high, after the post kidnapping scene where Arnav accused her of being the root cause of all his problems...

If only the serial had brought in another alternate lead- As a rival up and coming entrepreneur who takes on Khushi as a PA. And then goes toe to toe with Arnav on some major business deals.

Two benefits:

1) We'd actually see Arnav going to office!! 😊 And if the PH budget was better than it is now, some fashion shows in London/ Milan/ Paris. Too expensive? Ok, what about Singapore/ Hong Kong? Still too much??
Then at least Goa? 😊

2) Arnav would be forced to do the heavy lifting to win Khushi back...here in the track they showed over the last month or so, the sense always was, that she was his for the taking...in other words, this was his game to win or lose all along. What is true redemption without some difficulty? 😊

And then, we could have had this 'remarriage' track once he'd won her back in style!

Also, I think the word 'remarriage' itself is an oxymoron in this case, as their first 'wedding' was in no way legal or valid. So this current track is, in effect, their 'marriage' and not 'remarriage'. 😊

Edited by RamnVij - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Totally agree. A big fat wedding actually will cast more aspersions on Khushi's character. Won't the guests at the wedding ask, why they are getting married now when they were living together before?
It actually makes it seem as Khushi was living in sin with ASR for so many days and now they are making it legal.
If they wanted to give her a wedding, it should be a private one with only the family present.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Isn't it bad enough that the couple gets married in the middle of a love story, that they go ahead and do it twice?!

But seriously, that is a wonderfully written post and you articulate all that I wish to say, much better, of course. Last weekend I spent a good amount of time watching Hindi movies with elopement weddings (yes, I am that obsessive and that unemployed) to see how do these weddings happen. I have been meaning to present my dubious research since. Anyway suffice to say that people have done far lesser rituals and souls have been united, families have accepted and society has been appeased. Oh well.
Like you allude to, something subtle would have been appreciated. So if they wouldn't give us the "under the stars" fantasy, at least a small temple ceremony would have done. Or even better a quick legal marriage at the Registrar's Office. Yahan pe sign karo – now that would have been characteristic of ASR as well.
And yes, the edge to this two shouldn't be compromised behind ASR's Lauface and KKG's Gleeface. I am happy that they are happy and I certainly don't want them to be miserable (I am a bit of a wuss anyway and prefer when my stories are more happy than sad), but I would like subtlety there too. I guess there is that thin line, one that makes you go from awww! to cheesy! As long as that is kept in mind, I am happy. So KKG defending atheism and ASR thanking her worked well for me. That was cute, yet meaningful. Some of the other things shown, not so much.
Anyway, my point beyond this ramble is, great post :)
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Roark

Like your post.

Infact even I was a little apprehensive about this whole remarrage issue. But guess its more for the TRPs. and by the way this TRPs and numbers I dont understand and cannot see how its so high for some shows.
That apart, I guess Arnav who did not want it initially agreed because of his over bearing dadi who was hell bent on calling hos beloved a s**t and insulting her family. Because even in the previous episodes he was never for the rasams or the remarraige, infact I guess they also want to show us that Arnav can do anything for his loved ones even if it is not what he wants or even believes in.
But what sanctity is left when they lived together in the same room for 6 months, are hugging each other at every opportunity, too many kisses and missed lip kiss, share the same bed and are jumping at every given opportunity to take care of each other and dont need words to tell each other about their love.
But we are not the CVs and not sure what they have planned with this entire sequences - hopefully not another MU, separation and another round of wooing and another marriage ceremony with all rituals. Thats will then sound the death knell of IPKKND for me.


hi roark,
nice name. yeah, i guess we have to leave it to the creatives. let's hope they keep iss pyaar ko as wonderful as they have often managed to and we're watching it fora long time to come. 😊 thanks for writing and reading.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@rvarier,
a quiet, private, intennse and meaningful confirmation of vows with stars, payals and bangles would have been lovely. thanks so much for your thoughts.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Divya1503

Indi di!!! fab post!!!!


N coming to the remarriage, I too wanted a quiet private one, just the two of them!! N to talk more on that I dont think I can do any justice coz I can't think beyond ASR/BS when it comes to the show!! U know na di how I am!!


hey, thanks, divya for reading my maha long post. yes yes yes private one would have been soo good. i had to write since i just couldn'r deal with the discomfort. maybe expressing it will get it off my chest and all will be well again. he he.😆 and thanks for bringing your monkeys with you, dear girl.

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