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Posted: 13 years ago
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Rabba ve, spice gurrls!!! How is everyone on wonderful Wednesday?

Extreme DKB to follow in my post below. Please stay away if you value your suraksha evam maansik santulan. Consider yourself warned. 😛

So, yesterday and today marked the return of the Daiyya ho and how! Whatay awesomeness in the way he slithered through the shadows around the pillars of RM. Hum to dekhte hi reh gaye!

First things first, let us talk about our Shyamji's imposing physique. Now some would take one look at those doley-sholey and be tempted to nickname him "the hulk", par hum nahin. Body ho to hamare Shyamji ke jaisi, varna na ho. And waise bhi, the current lack of funds for a gym trainer has un-toned the muscles to perfection. Kya baat hai. 👏

And what about that shaatir dimaag which can give ASRs counterpart a run for its money, literally and figuratively. His move to get cameras installed all over Shantivan was brilliance personified. This way, he can see every tiny leaf that dares to shake without his express permission. It was eggstra smart to not neglect the poolside as all the not-to-be-missed action happens here only. Never one to do a half-assed job, our Shyamji.

Rassi jal gayi, par bal nahin gaya. Shyamji hasn't neglected his Rani Sahiba despite ek nahin do do thappad from saale-sahab. Ab inhe kehte hain perfect lover. ASR would do well to take this page out of the Daiyya-ho manual. Evidence in the form of a baby bump proves that Jee-ja-ji saw more action under the RM roof than Arnie boy ever did. Haan, some would argue that the bump is as yet invisible, par not to worry. Shyamji ke paas sonography ke records hain. Tiny daiyya-ho bun in oven, check.

As if all this wasn't sufficient, we have it on good authority that Hulkji got a hold of daadiji to come and continue his sacred mission in his absence. What a trump card, saheliyon! Of course, nateeja yeh hua hai ki the big fat IPK wedding may be under way, par never phear when Shyamji is here. The method to his madness will be apparent very very soon.

Move over ASR, the true boss of RM has arrived and he is lurking in the shadows. 😃

This was a jurmana post for sabki pyaari Jambaji. Ab khush, Ms J? I hope I have been forgiven for my gaffe of overlooking your very very sweet birthday wish. Kaan pakad liye, uthak-baithak bhi kar liye! Now when can we expect the next Take 5? 😛

Edited by -monalisa- - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Thank you Sari, Mandy, Meens, ippy - what wonderful posts. No wonder I long to come to the hangout every evening. You gals make me feel better. I watched the episode on YouTube earlier in the day and have been so depressed. So much so that I did not watch the episode on TV at 7pm. I can wait for all this horrendous mud slinging at Khushi to stop. I don't like Arnav's FBs either - the memory of how he treated her depresses me further.Not looking forward to the Garima connection or Sankewa's re-entry.I think I'll juts stick to the hangout😃
Edited by ashwink630 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hello Sari and SGs,

I've not had a chance to watch the entire episode today but just wanted to stop by to say hello to all of you.

I was unhappy about a couple of things yesterday which were addressed in today's episode. I couldn't understand why Buaji did not speak up to Dadi when Dadi was full on mudslinging on Khushi. She redeemed herself completely in my eyes today. Loved how Buaji had a rebuttal for Dadi on every point se was try to make about Khushi. If Khushi's character is in question , then so is your grandson's. Buaji's heart is in the right place. I am looking forward to her finding out the entire story about Khushi's marriage. God save Shyam after that.

I know many of you were not happy about Arnav not owning up to the forced marriage in front of Dadi . Yes, to some extent it is a TRP game but my theory is he wanted to avoid talking about SHyam and Khushi in front of the family especially Dadi. We saw more of mudslinging on Khushi's character and upbringing today. That scene was very painful for me , the less said the better. With Shyam's entry , this can only go south from here on. I'm just happy that Arnav is with her now, all the way. It is very clear Dadi is in cohoots with Shyam or someone else. How else would she know anything about the GH property transfer to Khushi's name ? Btw, does that mean Arnav transferred GH to Khushi's name ? Coming back to Dadi, she obviously has a very tainted picture of Khushi in her head. How far will she go in preventing Khushi from entering RM? We'll have to wait and see.

What is Garima's story? She seemed to be terrified of Dadi. Everyone seems to be taking out their frustration on Khushi. Honestly, I'll prefer if she is not the other woman. There was a post on IF today which indicated that Garima is SHashi Babu's second wife and she brought Khushi with her. The CVs have my attention, the past seems very interesting.

Loved the Arhi scene at GH . This is a very trying time for the two of them and am soglad that they are in it together. ASR does not care a hoot for rituals and marriage customs but he knows this is important to her , so he just wants to get this over with. He promises to be back to ask for Khushi's hand.

I did not get a chance to watch the rest of the episode.

Will come back to read everyone's posts.

Rabba Ve!!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sari I am not yet judging Dadi ...I see there is more reason for the way she behaved today. For me it looked very calculated and planned...she wants to break Arnav and kushi's relationship at any cost..she used under the table tricks today. Her motive for this looks more than what we see...Nani clearly mentioned in the earlier epis that why she hates only kushi ..she is not like this with others..So it shows that otherwise Dadi wouldnt behave so disgracingly...the way she purposely insulted kushi and her family was like she knew this is the only way to achieve her goal. But she misjudged Arnav's love for kushi...his pagalpan and junoon is the one which is going to shock her!😉😆

But whatever the reasons are the way dadi behaved today was unpardonable..insulting an innocent soul..my heart went out to kushi😭...the next blow Garima slapping kushi...Gosh it can never be justified!🤢

I loved the way you put it...Arnav has done all this to kushi himself but has realised how grave a mistake it was ..so the punishment is to see somebody else do the same things to her insult her malign her the way he did and that too he being the reason for it. He is suffering alongside kushi in every way and hurting himself more for he knows he is the reason ..but why should kushi go through all this again...cant this girl get some respite!😭

Yes why are they rushing through very important scenes..yesterday kushis confession, today his reflection...a little more of that scene would have been better..but keeping Arnie's character in point it was understandable of how he is a man of action ..even if its midnight he wanted to see kushi and apologise to her!
Edited by Zuzana - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sari.. I was waiting for the new hangout, 'cos I knew I could count on you to put things in perspective. I was feeling pretty much down and out after watching today's episode.. and I wanted to read what you said, to make me feel better.. and better I am after reading your perspective.. Again thanks..⭐️

Ippy.. your take always brings a smile on.. its funny.. you have a funny way of putting things that I love reading them.. ⭐️

Mandy.. yes.. I believe Shyam is in cahoots with Dadi, but what I can't understand is how is it that in such a big mansion, the snake slithers in and out.. Says a lot about the security..⭐️

Meens..loved your take..I agree, Manorama is a very poorly sketched character. .really. She is funny at times, she is very loving at others.. but her hatred for the sisters is something that almost borders on creepy. Its disgusting.. so yes..send her away to where ever her husband is .. she will be happy there.⭐️

veeps.. loved your word about a man fighting an uphill battle.. ⭐️

When I watched today's episode, I really cringed. First dadi's words.. reiterating the lesson that always, a woman is another woman's worst enemy. 😕 Next was the pace with which I found the story going. May be I was so used to the dragging keechufying phase of the kidnap drama, that now I am kind of feeling lost. There are so many kichidis cooking, so many cans of worms let out.. that I started wondering if they were in a hurry to wind up the show. 😕

Instead of analyzing each scene, I will just note the stuff that I liked/disliked in today's episode.

I liked how Buaji was like a tiger protecting her cub.. I am very thankful that she didn't start ranting about Khushi's character or her not being their blood and stuff..

I liked the confidence with which ASR walked in demanding to see his Khushi.. how upset he was to see the mark on her face, and how he says that for you I am prepared to go through all the rasms.. but if it were left to me, you would be out of here and in my house this min..
ASR has grown; he feels happy when he sees Khushi happy, he hurts when she does.. he is able to put her feelings ahead of his.. what more would you want in a husband.. 😍

I liked Khushi .. when she says that her mom though not her mom has the right to hit her.. It was not her weakness.. many a time I have always thought that she was made to be a door mat.. but then I realized that since she was orphaned when young she always probably felt like an outsider, someone who doesn't fit in.. someone who is always looking in through the window. Her way of overcoming it is by doing everything in her capacity to be accepted.. to be part of the family.. and yes for those she loves, she takes everything lying down. Its not her weakness but her strength. She loves Arnav .. unconditionally.. " You come to love not by finding the perfect person, but by learning to see an imperfect person perfectly." Khushi has done just that. .😍

I liked ASR's reflection and realization of all that he put Khushi through and the gal never once complained.. she took it in her stride.

I liked how ASR tells dadi how he knows what her game is.. he could have made her feel very small by repeating what he learnt at GH .. but he didn't.. That was a very mature and changed Arnav. (thanks to Khushi?)

I hated pretty much everything else.. dadi. .. (would love to get my hands around her stiff neck..😡) slithery snake.. 😡, Manorama, and how everyone else sits by and does nothing to shut that female up. 😡

Tomorrow, is another day.. and again I would love to see them slow it down a notch.. and would love to see how ASR checkmates each and every move by Dadi..

Let me now get back to reading other sg's and their wonderful takes.. 😊
Edited by maaloo - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sari, soul sister moment 🤗

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Many days ago, on this thread, the term RTRW was coined ... many arguments since then about what exactly Redemption entails. Does it just mean an apology, grovelling on knees, Devdas type sorrow ...?

Nope, that's not it ...

True Redemption = Realization + Regret + Reparation

Reparation already started, probably as early as the day after the forced wedding, or a very few days later ... after saying he would not acknowledge her as wife in public, Arnav proceeded to do exactly that, in front of family, neighbours and society, and even in front of random public at temple.

But
realization of what exactly he had done to Khushi, how badly he had mistreated her, and how unjustly, never really registered in Arnav's mind. Arnav is a just and righteous person at heart, he always does what he feels is right, so he has very little occasion to regret ... but when he realizes that he was wrong, on those rare occasions, his regret is instantaneous and huge. The way it was the first time he apologized to Khushi about those unkind remarks about her parents.

Yet so far he never really realized what he had done to Khushi by the forced marriage, how completely he had ruined her, how much hurt and humiliation she suffered because of that one unthinking, unjust action of his ... without waiting to find out the complete truth, he acted as judge, jury and executioner ...


Then he realized he was wrong in that judgement, he had made a huge mistake. The mistake of not believing Khushi, the mistake of not trusting his love, of trusting the wrong person. And being Arnav, he took all the steps he felt necessary to correct the mistake. Punish the real guilty party, declare Khushi innocent of all charges laid against her, declare her worthy of his trust and confirm her place as his wife in every sense of the word, in his heart, his home and his family. Balance redressed, justice served, end of story. Now he and his beloved wife can live happily ever after.

But that isn't all he did to Khushi.
And so far, he never even realized it. Now comes Dadi, and with her rigidity, her old-fashioned beliefs and her hypocrisy, she levels exactly the same charges on Khushi that he once did, she holds up a mirror to his judgements of the past ... and shows him, to his dawning horror, what exactly he did to Khushi, the extent of the misery, the anguish, the pain and humiliation he put her through for no fault of her own.
And to his even greater anguish, if he confesses to the enormity of his mistake, it will probably rebound again only on Khushi ... that even he, with all his love and trust on Khushi, was able to misunderstand her so quickly ... surely he had good reason to do so, because Arnav Singh Raizada is always right.

Dadi levels all the charges on Khushi that he himself once did, and this time, he hurts even more than Khushi ... because he knows them to be wrong, he knows now how wrong he was, and now he can see the effect it had on an innocent girl. He sees her hurting more and more, and he feels her hurt, because it is his own, her pain is his.

And for a righteous man like Arnav, this punishment is worse than anything else. This is his true Road to Redemption Walk ... the journey to forgive himself. His realization, his regret and his reparation ...

The other mirror image today - a reflection of the past ... Garima watches the Buaji-Dadi confrontation with shock and horror ... is it a reflection of her own past, or that of her near and dear one? An echo of a previous confrontation fourteen years ago? Every word that Dadi said today, might have been said by her fourteen years ago ... for her son in place of her grandson ...another time, another place ... another woman standing accused, while the son of the house was absolved of all blame, because men are 'kaan ka kacha' ... what a great excuse
😕

Loved both Buaji and Nani for insisting that Arnav was equally at fault ... if not more ...

Loved the ArHi hug ... tumhi ne dard diya hai, tumhi dava dena ... loved that last look between them as Arnav leaves and turns back for one look ... Khushi said she would wait for him, and wait she will ... and he will make sure her wait is not too long ...

Edited by DiyaS - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sari,great analysis.👍🏼ASR may be arrogant,rude ,domineering to the world but Khushi has realised the duality of his personality-that he is actually a gentle,bruised soul inside and this is what will give her the strength to face all the difficulties in future.For me,Arnav has already redeemed himself when he supported Khushi in front of dadi and today his redemption is almost complete(Thank GOD for the fandom now can take a rest).Now lets wait and watch for more of ASR-Dadi face-off .Both are cut from the same cloth,but ultimate stiching of the cloth has beem done by different tailors.This is where Arnav is different because he has his nani's values.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ipkbs

Sari -Absolutely wondeful post. You make the episode look 100x better than it is.👏


Meens - Shaadi is absolutely happening. I doubt ASR will go on his knees to apologise it is so not his character and CVs are true to ASR if not anyone else.

Mandy - yep it was fab. I also feel Shyam and dadi are a team. And Mami needs a holiday. Please CVs. And wonderfully said about ASR being the sole provider and dadi claiming her haq. what haq?? 😈

Veeps -Fab post. like the way you analysed Dadi and ASR similarites⭐️


I totally agree, this shaadi is happening. Khushi will be back at RM.
Manorama's character just does not make sense anymore. The writing is sloppy for her character
It just annoys me Tee that Dadi has come back claiming haq when reality is she has none! Arnav even pointed that out to her previously.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Excellent Sari. Don't know how you do it. Actually I am yet to see the episode. Tied up with many things.

Though old ASR and Dadi are similar in insulting Khushi, there are many evident differences apart from ASR's hot factor. One is, we all knew deep down he loves this girl and due to his past he is avoiding her or any emotions triggered by her. Actions of ASR are not justified (and thats why he is repenting badly) but actions of Dadi are plain devilish. Yes, she might have come here upon Shyam's instigations. But that doesn't give her any right to go and demean others' characters - especially given her sons' characters. While ASR has "protect Anajli" in his defense, what does Dadi have? Where was her protection instincts all these years?

It is not only redemption for ASR but also self-realization for both him and Khushi. For ASR, it is his realization that Khushi is the only one who will be there with him through out and that she will be his strength; And for Khushi, an orphan in the real sense, her only supporting system is her LG. This the main reason why I felt she shouldn't have raised the issue of "pheras" during the SR. Though it is nice to have a dream-wedding with all the rituals, it is very difficult for Khushi given the context, surrounded enemies and lack of family support.

Shyam, Dadi, Garima and past connection and Anjali - Many obstacles for the love birds. But thats how love stories are sketched. Don't know how the marriage takes place in between these hurdles.


Edited by reguser - 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ipkbs

Dadi, must watch a lot of SP shows at the ashram, considering she expected a meek dadi's pota who accepted her every decision and then sits in a corner and sing Tadap Tadap. NO. The pota will listen to you but Karega wohi jo usse theek lagta hai.

🤣 Dadi ki Tain-Tain-Fish

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