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Posted: 13 years ago
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Wow...I had a completely different take on today...and made a whole Sushpective on it...

Arnies aukat dialogues never made sense...dadIs do...because she fits the stereotype...he didn't...it was always a stretch for me...they need to show why was he scarred to believe such a thing...as it did not fit his self made background...who does not believe in other traditionalist thinking ...Khushi has definitely changed him...Has made him a believer again...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sari- this is probably not the last time I am saying this but girl you can write!!! Love your perspective on this episode...I cringed when I watched it and had to walk away, now you made me look at it in a completely different light... There are days I enjoy reading your post more than watching the episode and today is definitely one of those days.
Loved how you connected everything arnav said to Khushi with what dadi said...
I love your posts dammit!!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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This episode was heart breaking and I don't know why I feel this way. As usual will read everyone's take after Dinner.

Sari..this is for you 👏
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sari, how do you do it??? Brilliant girl, just brilliant especially what you wrote about Khushi she is as damaged as he is, her eyes clearly reflected the pain from within and he knows it. I agree he would have probably taken Khushi back home right away but it is not that easy, it isn't that his family doesn't want Khushi its society one has to think about. What Dadi put Khushi through is nothing short of what she would face if news spread in society about her, so these rituals need to take place for Khushi's sake.
Meens the marriage will happen, knowing Arnav if anything stands in his way he will probably take Khushi to the mandir again and marry her but in the right way.
I was so happy to see NK again, it was nice to see almost everyone happily preparing to go to Khushi's home. These rituals aren't only for what Khushi was cheated out of, but for them as well as they've always wanted to welcome her this way and now this is their chance.
Tee, soul sister moment I thought the same Khushi is already the ghar bahu these rituals are just a formality, their marriage is legal.
🤣 good advice to raise TRPs
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Posted: 13 years ago
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today's episode was just simple plain beautiful!
finally ASR is feeling guilty for what he did,that was an emotional scene
I am feeling bad for both of them...
awesome post👏
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Sush-

Wow...I had a completely different take on today...and made a whole Sushpective on it...

Arnies aukat dialogues never made sense...dadIs do...because she fits the stereotype...he didn't...it was always a stretch for me...they need to show why was he scarred to believe such a thing...as it did not fit his self made background...who does not believe in other traditionalist thinking ...Khushi has definitely changed him...Has made him a believer again...




Sush - nice to see you here...Whether Arnie believed what he said or not, he didn't hesitate to insult her every opportunity he got. The difference is we love ASR, he is the typical M&B hero...Uske saath khoon maaf...

On the other hand, we dismiss dadi as old school, regressive. But the person who faced the humiliation wouldn't know the difference. Khushi didn't know Arnav back then, so she felt just as humiliated as she felt today. So in that sense, there is really no difference.

Both misunderstood her, the premise maybe different but for a traditional girl like Khushi the hurt is just the same.
When his dadi infringes the same hurt on his wife, his love, ASR realizes he is wrong...Is there a better way to make him realize he was wrong?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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On Stranger Tides...
An episode long overdue for many. A moment that was long awaited but comes at a cost of more mudslinging and stooping to new lows. Kya karain..unconventional love story has turned into an SP Saas Bahu saga. After all TRP does stand for Total Random Practice. Numbers is the name of the game. Kostin is when do I cut the umbilical chord? Brief take today because I dozed off and don't remember much that happened 😆:

Woh Aurat:
Social Stigma has started to take roots. Dadi is not going to leave any stone unturned in humiliating Khushi. If it wasn't earlier, it should be crystal clear by now that Dadi has another agenda. She was successful in separating Arnav and Khushi and now she is driving a wedge between the families. It was evident that ASR bought the Gupta house under Khushi's name when the whole Amezing Developers fiasco happened but how come Dadi knows this? Dadi's impromptu visit to the GH reminded me of Arnav's visit last year when he put hoards of money on the dining table and asked Khushi to come back to RM. Dadi and Potha cut from the same cloth? Seeing how she was not given a fair chance to let it all out in RM, GH gave Dadi the perfect platform to amalgamate all insults into a maha be-izzati session! Character assassination, class, values, gold digging - take any cringe-worthy assault at one's moral fiber and it was there. All done in a calm and composed tone. Hum yeh rishta todtay hain. Yeh kaunsi nayi baat hai? You broke many rishtas 14 years ago and went away. This is what you do!
Garima's reaction, especially on dadi calling Khushi 'woh aurat' or a s**t in so many words, is indicative of something that lies beneath, something that binds all of them together. The slap on Khushi's face was more of a deja vu moment for Garima than anything. How dare Khushi repeat history? What lies beneath is yet to be surfaced and when it does, I am sure it will not be pretty.

Arnav Singh Raizada: The Wounded Lion - The man in the mirror:
A transformation from Dadi's grandson to Nani's grandson all in a day. In the morning, he marched into the GH demanding answers, still not understanding the gravity of the situation and ends up blaming Kushi that she too wants all of this. Itni choti si baat... why is it so important? Why can't things be done his way when he knows he is right? Is he more upset that everyone is making a big deal out of nothing or that Khushi is going along with everyone but him?

Night falls. After cementing his position as the decision-maker and firmly stating his stance, the lion returns to his den with a heavy heart. The damage control has been done for now, until the next storm hits. Sitting firmly in the front row of the theater of his life, ASR starts playing the events that transpired over the last six months. Every single scene hits him harder than the previous one. 'Apni biwi ko haath laganay ki ijaazat main nay kissi ko nahi di hai' today she got slapped by her own mother, followed by an angry outburst by him. The movie plays in his mind over and over and every time reaches the same ending - I am responsible. The flashbacks start with the forced wedding and end with Khushi falling off the cliff. Forced wedding - start of Khushi's turmoil, ruined life. Falling off the cliff - giving up her life, falling from all dignity: all because of him. What did Khushi get in return?

There is more to this realization. The man in the mirror sees who he has been in the last six months: a beast! Beast who kept the beauty captive at his own terms. The beauty who fell in love with him for who he is. He avoided the mirror all his life but she saw, accepted and loved him for him. Tonight, ASR's realization is complete. Tonight he understands that Khushi loves him for all his flaws. Loves him for the beast he is. The only person who loves him unconditionally, no holds barred. The only person who will stand by him come what may. Tonight, dadi's grandson is gone forever and Nani's grandson has taken over. He has realized that from now on, everything will be about Khushi, about her happiness and her desire. He will do right by her for her because there is no one else in the world who can love him in his entirety.

But, can the beauty rescue the beast before the last petal falls? Can true love battle the seen and unseen shadows and fight the tide? There is a storm coming. Can true love win and at what cost?

There is a Spanish fairy tale called 'The Wounded Lion' which fits perfectly in this situation, copying the synopsis here: (source wikipedia)
A poor girl got a job herding cows. One day, she heard a moan, and found a lion with a thorn in its paw. She pulled it out, and the lion thanked her by licking her face, but she could not find the cows again. Her master beat her and set her to herding donkeys. A year later, she found the lion wounded again, and when she aided it, the donkeys vanished. Her master beat her again and set to her to herding pigs. A year later, the lion appeared for a third time, wounded, she aided it, the pigs vanished, and she decided to wait and see if she could find them.

She climbed a tree and saw a man coming down a path and vanishing behind a rock at sunset. She decided to stay until she saw him come out. At dawn, a lion came out. She went down and behind the rock. A beautiful house stood there; she tidied it up and ate a meal before coming out to climb the same tree. The man came at the same time, and the next morning, the lion looked about before going on.

After three days of this, she could not discover his secret, so she descended and asked him. He told that he was enchanted by a giant into that form by day and was the lion she had helped; furthermore, the giant had stolen the cows, donkeys, and pigs in revenge for her aid. She wanted to free him. He told her that the only way was to get a lock of hair from the king's daughter and make a cloak from it for the giant.

The girl got the princess to hire her as a scullion. She dressed very neatly every day, and it came to the ears of the princess, who set her to comb her hair. The girl begged a lock of hair from her until she gave it. The girl wove a coat from it, but it was too small. She went back to the princess, who gave her another lock on the condition that she would find her a prince to marry. The girl said she had already found him, took the lock, and made the coat larger. The giant asked her what reward she wanted. She wanted to turn the lion back into a man. After some argument, the giant told her to kill the lion, cut him up into pieces, burn them, and throw the ash into water. The prince would arise from it a man.


She went away weeping, afraid that the giant had lied and she would kill the prince. The prince comforted her and told her to do it, and it worked. He said he would marry her. The girl told him she had promised the princess that she had found her a bridegroom. They went back to the princess, and her parents, the king and queen, knew him for their own son. So he married the girl who had saved him.

I am not going to get into the whole regressive and 'inappropriate' behavior of dadi. She is here for the added drama factor, to show a mirror to ASR. I can swallow the bitter pill as long as it works towards the greater good. Yeah, if wedding doesn't happen and if ArHi are separated again, then I'll bolt out faster than Flash, never to come back again. Until then Dadi can play the catalyst and get 'necessary' reactions out of ASR, which should make some people very happy.

Riddle me this: The over-bearing thought 'out there' is for ASR to say sorry to Khushi for the hurt he has caused her. But if the sorry comes at the cost of hurting Khushi more, does the word justify its purpose? I thought the idea of a sorry was to somehow lessen the hurt and not magnify it. Is this an oxymoron or am I the moron here? Also, I am seriously considering sending a request to Webster and Britannica for taking the 'R' word out of the dictionary. It is blasphemy! I can't even say the word, trust me I try! R...R...R...Re...see I tried! My tongue seem to have a brain of its own!
Edited by joenet1234 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sari, loved your take. I agree that it appears that more time is needed in certain scenes. I love seeing the family at RM back together again and Daljeet has the sweetest smile. Somehow I love that family intact. I also like Buaji defending Khushi. I am really liking the show again. Some of the basic elements have come back. Arnav's inability to take even the smallest insult and Khushi's quiet ability to take all hurt. It feels that they have to learn from each other and that was the basis always of the show.

Just lovely post Sari!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sari -Absolutely wondeful post. You make the episode look 100x better than it is.👏

Meens - Shaadi is absolutely happening. I doubt ASR will go on his knees to apologise it is so not his character and CVs are true to ASR if not anyone else.

Mandy - yep it was fab. I also feel Shyam and dadi are a team. And Mami needs a holiday. Please CVs. And wonderfully said about ASR being the sole provider and dadi claiming her haq. what haq?? 😈

Veeps -Fab post. like the way you analysed Dadi and ASR similarites⭐️
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Meens what an excellent take. Loved all of it but the part where you explain their relationship is the best.

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