Sushpective: The real question is...!update P7 - Page 3

The show is a family based one and hence the PH has to tread rather carefully about what they say, show or imply. That apart the two are really complex people, values and beliefs are not fixed and can keep changing. They have shown this to us clearly.

Khushi – she does everything in the name of family, obedient daughter, sis in law, bahu and all the other roles. She is in that house only because of Arnav and does not want to be his wife 'in full' it's not just about sex, she is weird in most of her interactions with him. I don't expect her to sit and TALK with the guy but get your point across better girl. If you want the pheres and related, ask the guy he may just do all that for you. He wants you by his side and if that is what it is, you may just get it. Don't forget you are living with the guy for 6 months now and that sindoor applying and mangalsutra tying is accountable as marriage for you, why should the rest matter and now. You want him to declare his love for you to go to the next level, I get it; don't bring in rituals to make a marriage meaningful, it rarely does if the concerned two are not compatible. Yours was not a conventional marriage so why start now? Do you think if you were to do all the vidhis now, you parents would be all accepting of the 6 months marriage? Listen to yourself girl, you sound so confused. You don't want to consummate your marriage let the reasons be valid and also it's about time you behaved like an adult.

Arnav – my heart goes out to this guy, he is rethinking every damn view he had on love and marriage because of Khushi and it sure must be difficult for him. Imagine being celibate for the past six months and now loving a woman and wanting her and as passionately that he talks about nothing else to her. He too fails to understand Khushi and her moral standing, 6 six months of marriage and what does she have to say now pheres, vidhis and mantras? That girl is unreasonable in his world or of method and logic. She accuses him of not feeling or caring for others feelings, she is guilty of that as well, if her husband and the one she so ardently loves now and spoken out aloud, wants to take their relationship to the next level, why is she acting in this manner. Would she have bed Shyam if she had married him with all the tam-gham and did not love him? So the pheres, vidhis and mantras are the most important, not feelings or love. He may be wrong by not expressing his feelings to her but now that he has, does that make it easier for him or her? Unlikely, the girl still would want the whole drama; give it to her Arnie….then she may just bed you….

Don't know about clash in values, it's more like clash in egos now...

Originally posted by: premparbat

Sush

To be honest I am a bit baffled about todays episode ...or should i say I have mixed feelings .. While I agree with the "differnce in thinking..." of the two and the story we were promised at the start , its the timing and presentation that I am miffed about.

True to their nature Arnie never believed in marriage and was happy to have Lavanya at his side for his physical needs. Then came along Khushi who he forced to "marry" to put the MS and sindoor in a temple coz he felt that was imporatant to her. Why did he not ask her to be his Live in girlfriend when he could have done so ? Why does he want the label " Husband" and her acceptance of this haque ? If Love is the only thing that matters then why NOT give in to the rsepect and dignity that "marriage" grants a realtionship. Its because he still has not understood what Total & Absolute commitment is . Does not understand the meaning of each and every vow... Sush it doe snot have to be with pandits around with familly around ...Vows are required promises to each other...He is still sitting on a fence.

Khushi who has lived for 6 months, till a few days ago was willing to walk away from the contract has now grown a concious and wants all the trappings. Is she not the one who thinks that Love & DIL are the two things that you need in a raltionship , the one thing that her Arnie dear so lacked. Was she not the one a few days ago said "I don't want to change you ..." now wants a wedding with all teh reeti-rivaaz . What she had committed to 6 months ago how was that acceptable to her that she has silently accepted him as her husband going ahead... why this sudden need of tradition. If she was so strong in her beliefs why does she not lay down her condition of this marriage - I want a proper wedding... Why this playing around. She too is sitting on a fence.

All in all Sush , yes both will have to find a middle ground or maybe forced to tie the knot knowing its a Family TV channel . My peeve is the flip flop by the csv and the toying with characters as and when they please...

If the new creative team gets this ie. please stick to the original characters and story board then I will be a happy camper. For now I am still unsure what tomorrow will bring...

Originally posted by: Zuzana

Sush valid question and the answer also varies on where you come from..I mean place.. a small town girl like kushi who is always looking for approval from everyone surrounding her and feeling that traditions hold meaning and is a requirement for survival in the society is valid in her point of view.

Sush I agree with your point...somehow she is uncomfortable to take their relationship to the next level...its purely because they didnt marry the right way...its not that she doesnt consider him her husband...somewhere she thinks he is not committed because he always throws in the contract thing on her face.

Arnav who gave a hoot to traditions and beliefs and also denied not to have any feelings has now changed his opinion about atleast one...feelings...yes he admits that feelings is what matters to him...but has yet to understand kushi's POV..he will come to that when everyone will tomorrow point out fingers at kushi...when Anji, Nani, Dadi everyone will ask kushi ..."How did you agree to it" thats when it will hit him that just their having feelings doesnt get the required approval from everyone around her...the rituals and promise has to be made in the public witnessed by close ones.

Originally posted by: highonshows

Hey 2 really important fact pointed out ...👏👏👏👏

What is more important? /

Is it OK to sleep with a person if you are in love with them...thats what is teh most important thing...

@ red: Arnav is totaly n completely in love with Khushi hence he would not want to hold back at all. He want to be hers completely and eternally.

He balantly admited and justified it as n OKAY thing to do *cue he loves her dammit* but did he once try to find out her feeling?? Wait for her to reciprocate the same. Didnt it even feel to him that he is shoving himself on her ...just cuz HE loves her that means its okay for him to take it to the next level...what bout her???

So is it the same case for Khushi??? she may love him deeply, but giving herself to him completely with the sword of contract this hangin btwn them...in her mind Arnav is right now standing up with her after the entrance of Dadi, but what bout when dadi is not around???

He tell her he loves her, yet to make her do things there is oodles of anger in him. Its still very difficult to accept ASR behind the sweet Arnav.

or

Is it OK...to hold out...till you feel at peace and good about the union that it is a PROPER union?

@ RED: again, i hardly doubt Khushi is at peace with how she feel about the whole situation. Not just the marriage that she was forced into, but he also left her no choice n brought her home to RM after she leaving to GH. with all these feeling that makes one insecure about the future btwn herself n the person she loves... isnt going to feel comfortable to take the step fwd.

He asked her to move fwd with him,...yet where had he considered her choice and seen what matters to her???

His own words, why does she sleep like this in GH house, n not RM...should answer that this above concern...

At GH, she feel more secured, and at home. In RM she feels confined and has to watch her every step. More like a caged bird under a watchful eyes.

Merely saying that *my wife can go anywhere she want and do anything she pleases* is not enough. One actions have to match ones words to truly make the opposite person beleive what u are saying is indeed the truth and u stand by it.

Arnav/ ASR only says things, yet his actions portray n entirely different story.

ThnQ that was a very beautiful post

Avni 😊

Originally posted by: .Mandy.

This episode moved at lightening speed, I was shocked at the pace but still the episode clicked for me. I loved it

Highlights

- Manorama's growing suspicion of Anjali, she knows Anjali is hiding things from her and it will all make sense when Shyam returns. The family will be very hurt that Anjali did this, especially Arnav which probably explains more why the battlelines were indicated last week.

- Loved how Arnav took part in the pooja with Khushi, this coming from the same man who had to be tricked to participate last year. Khushi has definately changed him for the better. The part where Nani asks for grandchildren was too cute, Arnav was more than eager to get started 😆

- Where was NK in this episode??? His presence is always missed when not around

- So Khushi attempts to avoid Arnav go in vein and she ultimately comes face to face with him. Really liked how even though she was uncomfortable she trusted Arnav enough to come in his presence, it was a beautiful scene but I honestly did not care much for the song from KANK

- I am glad CVs kept both Khushi and Arnav true to their characters. For Khushi these pheras mean a lot to her, she is one who has always been high on her principles, her beliefs so these pheras hold importance to her. Arnav on the other hand, has never believed in any of this and can't understand why this is so important when love should triumph all.

- Got to give CVs credit for the many 360s that have been done lately, we are coming full circle and I look forward to what they have in store for us next.

Originally posted by: spirit

What stood out for me was final battle line drawn between them and the old order more specifically between Arnav/khushi vs dadi...and what each represent, hold and stand for separated by fire, no less! Yet, To successfully fight this war they need to be together, on a firmer footing...a common ground., where they are not quite yet! To get to that middle ground, he needs to retrace his steps... while she needs to walk a few more paces ahead.There is no other way.Their growth is an ongoing process that treads an unconventional path to say the least but perhaps one that is inevitably fitting...two orphans and their path to discovery of home.

Sush, I'm curious. What does ODB stand for?? I feel so silly asking...😆

I had a lot more to say but a little short on time..will edit or add later, if I manage to. The episode left me with mixed feelings but I'll take this any day over all the other crap they show. Hope they manage to keep things up.

S

Originally posted by: Sahana2

Sush, Vistaa, Ratna, Meens , Mandy ,

You all have put across your points so beautifully that I'm not sure if there is anything left for me to add.

Both of them have remained true to their beliefs , so in a way they are both correct.

Khushi's POV - Yes, she has lived with him in his house , in his bedroom for the past 6 months but has never demanded a proper marriage. That is because until a couple weeks ago, she was unsure of her place in his life. All along she treated this as a contract mariage and believed in her heart that at the end of 6 months she will have to leave . Things have changed between them since her last visit to GH when he begged for her tp come back home with him . Slowly and gradually she is starting to beleive that she is Mrs. ASR. But being the traditionalist she is, she is having a hard time gong through with the physical aspect of being a wife. I bet Khushi had never thought this far before and Arnie never pushed her to. This is all very new to her but I'm glad she's demanding her rights.

Arnav on the other hand knows what he feels about her and has seen Khushi's love for him. He has seen two marriages fail before his own eyes , it's quite understandable why he doesn't believe in the institution of marriage. He is failing to understand why taking pheras is such a big issue for Khushi after everything they have gone through together. Yes, it woould be nice if he understood and obliged her but picture abhi baki hain mere dost 😛

That day will come but this is Arhi we are talking about . Every step they take together has a roadblock , this time in the form of Radha Krishna.

But Khushi's smile on the last shot tells me that she'll be the one to accept and understand him fully. She's heard the words she's been wanting to hear for a long time and this time she knows that he was not under duress.

Sush - I don't think he said it to get his way . This is ODB, we always knew he would never say it any other way😛 I just loved the last scene.