Clearing some misconceptions about redemption - Page 21

Originally posted by: Didikisaut

How can you forget the dreadful "dekhna he toh dekho" dialogue from GH?

Originally posted by: rima

love and the feeling of thinking she owes people-her terrible guilt complex-since she is an orphan and owes her life to others-she thinks she is not worthy of anything in her own right-even sef defence

Originally posted by: rima

If there is one word which is used and abused in the forum it is 'redemption'

Whenever people say they want redemption from ASR there is always one more set of camp who says 'We don't want ASR to cry'

'We don't want ASR to be Devdas'

'We don't want ASR to say sorry. He has already done enough'

'Why is redemption needed? Hasn't ASR suffered enough?'

'Khushi has also made mistakes'

'khushi herself doesn't want it'

Well, well, well...

First about ASR crying

ASr cried for his di,

ASR cried after terrace scene,

ASR cried for his mom,

He almost cried for Khushi when he thought she is dead...

So he is capable of crying and we are capable of accepting him crying.

So will it hurt to see two drops of tears (Ok even one or may be a droplet😊) having Flashbacks of how he called Khushi characterless and threw her stars and how he threw her to the pool side etc? Come on ek droplet to banta hai boss so what if he has made her smile recently. He has made her cry so many times.

About ASR turning into Devdas

When ASR ran after the ambulance and kept hurting over the terrace scene he was Devdas and we did accept it. Now do we want ASR to have a drink in his hand and seek a Chandramukhi to relieve his pain? 😃 Defenitely no

All we want is for him to realize that one innocent life and the dreams got lost because of him...something he seems to realize a little already. But if he gives her the dream marriage then he will return her dreams and dignity. Why her dreams, they are his dreams too. What is wrong in restoring dreams? Or for that matter what is wrong in realizing mistakes? That is the first thing towards maturity...when you realize you are wrong. I would say ASR is becoming more mature by admitting his mistakes and not becoming a Devdas

Redemption not needed because he has suffered

Of course he suffered. He has loved the girl and almost agonized over the fact that she is his Di ki saut and she loved another man.

He saved her from goons and now he is protecting her and giving her love in his own way.

People say ASR speaks through his actions

But, but, but...when he told her she is characterless, or threw her out to the pool side or said he wished he had never met her or faught with her after Heer Rabjha...he was inflicting his pain on her.

So you see he took out his pain on her, whereas Khushi has not been able to and that is why Khushi's pain needs an outlet through more nice gestures and some equally nice words from him.

Come on. It is the same person right? If he can say bitter things will saying nice things change his character? No

Khushi has made mistakes too

Sure she has. She hid Shyam's truth...but for his sister and she suffered both from Shyam and ASR

Khushi gave him public bath, deprived him of food and played so many pranks on ASR...sure she did...but anyone in her place could have actually done worse. But she did not.

Do you know when you shoot in self defence it deserves lesser punishment in legal courts? Like that Khushi was lashing out after being hurt, but she never inflicted the first wound

Khushi herslef doesn't want it

Sure she doesn't. She has a large heart. She has forgiven and forgotten.

She loves him. She will forgive him a 100001 wounds. And that is the way it should be. Holding grudges is not love

But, but ,but ...we are the viewers. Imagine a child being beaten by his parents regularly. The parents forget. The child also forgets after they give him some lollipops. But if you watched the scene you will feel bad for the child. You would want the child to be loved more, pampered more, understood more...

That is what is happening to viewers. Anyone wanting redemption is not an ASR hater, but simply a human being wanting to see some joy and justice done to a suffering human being

So those who say they are ASR lovers in wanting no redemption are totally wrong.

I find myself a bigger ASR lover in wanting to correct himself, evolve, mature and become the superb person that we can all adore. That will not ruin his character at all. He can still fight with Khushi over other things or be strong with others like Mami. Don't tell me he can be ASR only if he is mean to Khushi.

Tell me who loves him more? People who want him to be loved by becoming better or people who want him to be just as he is and keep on making mistakes for which he will be bashed?

So the whole logic of who loves ASR more is debatable...one love is like a mother's love that corrects the child and the other is like a spoiling mother who does not correct the child

PS: ASR is the best fictional character I have seen on TV. He is like Heathcliff of Wuthering Heights. But Heathcliff never corrected himself and became a villian. But ASR is capable of great love and compassion and he is capable of evolution

Originally posted by: charlotte74

Khushi could have saved herself from being RUINED that night ... ... she could have told everyone about Shyam right then and there... should have put the truth out and there ... and waited for the outcome... she should have slapped that B!@#$%#, kicked or clawed at Shyam on that night in the terrace for grabbing her...

Originally posted by: FairyLiquidSoap

shriya the problem girl is Gul has behaved like the proverbial asian mother showing her preference more to the male than the female

She gave us a beautiful character called KKG which drew many intelligent viewers into watching this otherwise ordinary show and then she proceeded to strip her of every characteristic that made her unique her fiestiness her fighting spirit her charm her moral fiber

with ASR she has not tinkered too much with his intrinsic character and right now he is being built up at the cost of hers I would have admired her if she had made it a fair fight

If both had retained there core instead of weakening one to the point of emaciation and making the other strong by building custom made tracks dialogues situations and scenes then there would have been a huge round of applause for both her creations She gave us KKG but then sheproceeded to treat her like a paraya dhan with limited rights

how you been have not seen you for some time girl😊

swathi