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Posted: 13 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: riti4u

@sree07- good to hear abt ur thoughts on arnie..😉 and dont wry we are not attributing holiness to her...just trying to understand her which many people here dont ...u cn very well have ur views on it dear and we truely respect them... 🤗 It is good to have discussions with you as sometimes I fail to give counter arguments back but then it is not necessary that we will always be on different sides of argument as long as people present their views without any prejudice notion,it is always nice to debate This time I did agree with you in some aspect.

See ya in redux...
Take care 😳


😲 agree with me?😲
Whow coming from you its a big deal. Thanks dear🤗
Its nice debating with you as well. Always gives me chance to rant without loosing patience. Thanks for that.😳

Your Arnie boy...😆. We are still at loggerheads honey. He did earn some brownie points when it comes to bro sis bond. But arhi, hmmm yet to impress me. 😉. Anyway you should be happy one less at the ASR phan queue.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#82
@ sree...

I understand your point Sree. We hav seen Only Arnav's sacrifice and love...while anjali's love for Arnav has been left unsaid or not shown.

There may be a time, when Anjali stood for Arnav and did sacrifices. Bt, i'm not going to elaborate that until n unless they show it.

Bt, Sree, i wud like to say one thing. Arnav n Anjali has accepted them the way they are. Anjali never tried to change 'Chotte'. She could hav done that thru 'force' or 'nautanki', bt she never did dat.

Arnav could hav askd her to stop crying or be strong, bt he didnt. He decided to root out those tears.

Arnav has been the 'Tree' where Anjali the 'creeper' surrounded her life around... We may feel the creeper being selfish to grasp life frm the tree. Bt, the Tree has another story to say... Dat it cant stand alone, if d creeper isnt there.

We saw, how Anjali broke down when she felt that 'Arnav ignored her for a few moments'.

Bt, Arnav will hav a deeper breakdown if Anjali, one fine day 'stop depending upon him'...

The dynamics of their relation is dat, they accept each other, without altering the other person. When Anjali is pamperd, its the way, dat Arnav gets emotional Strength...

Arnav's emotional dependence on Anjali is far beyond explanation... If Anjali doesnt respond to his call 'di'... Then he loses his world. Thats the way they are. Anjali cant be blamed, bcoz she is lovd n pamperd by Arnav.

If Anjali has to sacrifice for Arnav, she wil never back off, bt Arnav may not let her do that...


Anjali lives becoz she wants her Chotte...

Chotte lives becoz he treasures her existence.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: payasa


nice points sree,
that is correct, we cant be judgemental...everything which one does may not have answers all the time...
there is nothing holyness about any relationships or persons...it is all about how one expresses their love. it is in different shades..
if too much holiness is attributed to her, then she will become saint..😊..as u said let her have little grey shade for the story to move..😊



Thanks dear for understanding the point.

Hey remember you had a discussion with sathya during post holi OTT track of khushi in redux. I still remember that and It did me a brighter view of the things. Its was nice. 👏. Wanted to say this for long but forgot. 😳 Better late than never.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: cutebarun

@ sree...

I understand your point Sree. We hav seen Only Arnav's sacrifice and love...while anjali's love for Arnav has been left unsaid or not shown.

There may be a time, when Anjali stood for Arnav and did sacrifices. Bt, i'm not going to elaborate that until n unless they show it.

Bt, Sree, i wud like to say one thing. Arnav n Anjali has accepted them the way they are. Anjali never tried to change 'Chotte'. She could hav done that thru 'force' or 'nautanki', bt she never did dat.

Arnav could hav askd her to stop crying or be strong, bt he didnt. He decided to root out those tears.

Arnav has been the 'Tree' where Anjali the 'creeper' surrounded her life around... We may feel the creeper being selfish to grasp life frm the tree. Bt, the Tree has another story to say... Dat it cant stand alone, if d creeper isnt there.

We saw, how Anjali broke down when she felt that 'Arnav ignored her for a few moments'.

Bt, Arnav will hav a deeper breakdown if Anjali, one fine day 'stop depending upon him'...

The dynamics of their relation is dat, they accept each other, without altering the other person. When Anjali is pamperd, its the way, dat Arnav gets emotional Strength...

Arnav's emotional dependence on Anjali is far beyond explanation... If Anjali doesnt respond to his call 'di'... Then he loses his world. Thats the way they are. Anjali cant be blamed, bcoz she is lovd n pamperd by Arnav.

If Anjali has to sacrifice for Arnav, she wil never back off, bt Arnav may not let her do that...


Anjali lives becoz she wants her Chotte...

Chotte lives becoz he treasures her existence.


Yelo...ek aur phangurl...😆
Nice to meet you here CB. Heard that u write a brilliant piece in redux today. Yet to read it.

As to your post.

I am in full agreement with the commitment from the Tree's side.
but creeper stays as a creeper for me! 😉

But your post above summarize the deep bond shared by arnav with his Di who is his world. Not the bond Di shares with arnav. For Di arnav is not her entire world. Its mix of chotey and shyam. I mentioned earlier also. The bridge is kind one sided and that's why for me her scenes fails to make impact.

There is a VM link I posted above. You will love it if you see that, and it connected with me from arnav's POV.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: sree07



Thanks dear for understanding the point.

Hey remember you had a discussion with sathya during post holi OTT track of khushi in redux. I still remember that and It did me a brighter view of the things. Its was nice. 👏. Wanted to say this for long but forgot. 😳 Better late than never.


hey thanks..sree..

a holy person raises to the altar of saint...here we are watching a love story that includes family drama too..so it can be good for all the fictional characters to remain as normal human..😆...n entertain us taking to the fantasy world of beautiful love betweeen khushi n arnav..

i still remember ur discussion with doods..about kidnapping n ILU . it was fantastic..even in my post i mentioned u...but u didnot read.😭


Edited by payasa - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#86

Originally posted by: payasa


hey thanks..sree..

a holy person raises to the altar of saint...here we are watching a love story that includes family drama too..so it can be good for the fictional characters to remain as normal human..😆...n entertain us taking to the fantasy world of beautiful love betweeen khushi n arnav..

i still remember ur discussion with doods..about kidnapping n ILU . it was fantastic..even in my post i mentioned u...but u didnot read.😭



I was ok with anjali. But then PH started the feel for anji baby campaign and that hit a a different cord with me. I normally love villains so Ideally I should fall in love with anji baby. But DKS flipped me big time.😆 I am ok now, back to understanding mode slowly.

Dissh... Is it... You replied? Sorry yaar. I posted it and went to Goa to chill out for vacation😉. Checked forum after so many days. So did not check whether I got chappals or tomatoes after the post😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
#87

Originally posted by: riti4u

Thanks sam for your support 🤗 ... we wanted to make a post on it for long time... yes this bond is special and you cant compare two different relations at all... really loved your reply dear...👏

👏👏👏👏👏
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Posted: 13 years ago
#88

Originally posted by: sree07


@ bold-- happy to see u in understanding mode..😊

what is this d k s ? i did not find any fault with her going for abortion. that is norml humane reaction...in fact i felt they tonned down her reactions to the explosion of truth..i expected big atom bomb. but it turned out to be local bomb..😆 in reality such situations are devastating..


i suggest you to read mpk2011 reply on page 11. she has beutifully put down the thoughts...it might satisfy you..

actually the post is to understand the bond, not to attribute the holiness..i hope you get it..

that is ok sree...i liked ur views then...u are clear in your thoughts..

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Posted: 13 years ago
#89

Originally posted by: mpk2011

Some very valid points being raised about Anjali's side of the bond, I would say, we are yet to witness many things from her side and to top it all up we need to be shown their past, a vital aspect for the relation, for the storyline and also for ASR. The guy has been portrayed to be mentally stronger than his sister, but what kept him going and living was that very sister.

Now, lets check out what we have seen from Anjali's side.

She has been portrayed as a soulmate to ASR, the one in front of whom he can let go of himself and still go back becoming that 15 yr old kid.

The same has been shown from her side also, 'humare liye sabse barkar, humare khud ki zindagi se bhi barkar chote tum ho', the words speaks a lot. Similarly, 'ek pal k liye hume laga ki hum hamare chote ko, humare parivaar ko aur humare pati ko phir nahi dekh payenge' speaks something about her priority list (we have to rely on the dialogue writer here coz none of us r writing the dialogues).

As far as the emotional support to ASR is concerned well 'aap meri jaan le lena par maa ki tarah mujhe chodke mat jana', one can see what it means. Her very existence is the reason of his existence. One rejection symptom from her side caused havoc to his soul ( Shyam's kicking out episode). Different people have different ways of projecting emotion, every body doesn't have to be give a monologue before doing anything for somebody else or for some greater good, emotions can be subtle also.

Why her selfsacrificing is not pronounced in the way ASR's had been. Well, just like the way Payal's side of compromises or sacrifices that had been made to adjust with an adopted kid in her house was never projected. One can surely call it the story tellers take.

Now coming to the point of getting selfish about her brother's love. Well there comes the perspective, for some it may appear to be selfish, for other's in may appear to be insecurity.

For me it is the second one given the present circumstances. Her dear husband was kicked out of the house and she doesn't have an inkling to the whole story except for the fact that somebody claims him to be a creep and somebody else chose to believe her in the name of love. So till she doesn't come to know about the truth she has the right to believe Shyam in the name of love, just like the way ASR believed his wife without any proof or what so ever.

The next day she tries to practically kill herself in the name of abortion, before I start calling the lady a witch or banshee I have to look into the circumstances which lead her to such a decision when we have seen her happiness and craving for that very kid !

Her brother saved her and her kid, she found the solace that he is still there for her, but the very next day she watches him celebrating with his wife, the very wife who unwittingly or otherwise had been the reason of her now tormented phase of life. The first thing that should come in her mind is that the other most important person of her life is drifting away from her at a time when she needs him the most. The other incidents which followed were just follow ups of this incident and resulted in a cumulative effect.

I won't say that the celebrations were wrong, coz they were not. However, I could surely say that the circumstances and thus the venue was wrong !! And so her reaction does appear to be humane!!

But all said and done I definitely agree that at the end of the day it is everybody's decision about how they feel about a certain fictional character or how far one can relate to them!😊


madhu , u always come up with such thought provoking posts. i should say that ur analysis gives very good insight in to the minds of characters.

@ red----it self is proof enough to show that, anjali was all that a mother to a child..so now he is reciprocating it which was very well showcased...

Edited by payasa - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#90

Originally posted by: mpk2011

Some very valid points being raised about Anjali's side of the bond, I would say, we are yet to witness many things from her side and to top it all up we need to be shown their past, a vital aspect for the relation, for the storyline and also for ASR. The guy has been portrayed to be mentally stronger than his sister, but what kept him going and living was that very sister.

Now, lets check out what we have seen from Anjali's side.

She has been portrayed as a soulmate to ASR, the one in front of whom he can let go of himself and still go back becoming that 15 yr old kid.

The same has been shown from her side also, 'humare liye sabse barkar, humare khud ki zindagi se bhi barkar chote tum ho', the words speaks a lot. Similarly, 'ek pal k liye hume laga ki hum hamare chote ko, humare parivaar ko aur humare pati ko phir nahi dekh payenge' speaks something about her priority list (we have to rely on the dialogue writer here coz none of us r writing the dialogues).

As far as the emotional support to ASR is concerned well 'aap meri jaan le lena par maa ki tarah mujhe chodke mat jana', one can see what it means. Her very existence is the reason of his existence. One rejection symptom from her side caused havoc to his soul ( Shyam's kicking out episode). Different people have different ways of projecting emotion, every body doesn't have to be give a monologue before doing anything for somebody else or for some greater good, emotions can be subtle also.

Why her selfsacrificing is not pronounced in the way ASR's had been. Well, just like the way Payal's side of compromises or sacrifices that had been made to adjust with an adopted kid in her house was never projected. One can surely call it the story tellers take.

Now coming to the point of getting selfish about her brother's love. Well there comes the perspective, for some it may appear to be selfish, for other's in may appear to be insecurity.

For me it is the second one given the present circumstances. Her dear husband was kicked out of the house and she doesn't have an inkling to the whole story except for the fact that somebody claims him to be a creep and somebody else chose to believe her in the name of love. So till she doesn't come to know about the truth she has the right to believe Shyam in the name of love, just like the way ASR believed his wife without any proof or what so ever.

The next day she tries to practically kill herself in the name of abortion, before I start calling the lady a witch or banshee I have to look into the circumstances which lead her to such a decision when we have seen her happiness and craving for that very kid !

Her brother saved her and her kid, she found the solace that he is still there for her, but the very next day she watches him celebrating with his wife, the very wife who unwittingly or otherwise had been the reason of her now tormented phase of life. The first thing that should come in her mind is that the other most important person of her life is drifting away from her at a time when she needs him the most. The other incidents which followed were just follow ups of this incident and resulted in a cumulative effect.

I won't say that the celebrations were wrong, coz they were not. However, I could surely say that the circumstances and thus the venue was wrong !! And so her reaction does appear to be humane!!

But all said and done I definitely agree that at the end of the day it is everybody's decision about how they feel about a certain fictional character or how far one can relate to them!😊

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Very well said madhu... I am glad I have such team of experts with me...😆
and totally ditto on last line...

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