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Posted: 13 years ago
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We love you Doods 🤗 for being so patient with everyone here, even though you have to repeat the same thing several times ...somethings take time to sink in , after all our perception of things is not as sharp as yours you see...😆
HUGS and kisses to you from all of us...for being what you are...

My dear friends ... if you haven't read Doods' comment on yesterday's Redux : Blot pg 27...then please run and do so ...
What a beautiful love story you had in mind Doods 😍... no wonder you are so angry with these crazy creatives...who are doing entire episodes on clots on the clout's shoe 😡...

I liked today's episode because they have shown in a very slick way how Khushi managed to get KN into the inbeshtigashon team... it was quite convincing ...So now they are 3 of them ... this number 3 does ring a bell, thanks to Doods...

I loved how the Panditji looking all so peaceful and smiling lights a tiny flame on a matchstick on the bead of "Karpoor" ie camphor...and LO all the dry sticks are ablaze and cast a glow on everyone's faces, heads are bowed in prayer...leaving a few eyes wide open...
I'm waiting to read all the analysis on this bit ...
I missed Lakshmi and Maamaji today🤔...
I wish the goatwa had followed Khushi into snakewa's room and munched up the Will papers ...I'm sure the TRPs would have shot up ...alas that was not to be... sigh...😔

A big hug to all Reduxians and everyone visiting this awesome thread ... you don't just visit here for nothing ... it is because you love to read all the superb comments and analyses and every time you visit I'm sure you turn wiser ... for we have ppl who are excellent in decoding all the hints thrown at us by these CVs ... and they go way way beyond these silly spoilers floating around ...
happy reading guys...






Edited by --sumana13-- - 13 years ago
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Simplicity is the Ultimate Sophistication

Leonardo da Vinci


A really nice episode ' technically very sound ' very well shot sequences 'very slick editing ' extremely good camera work ' & an extremely tight script once again '

For me each episode these days is like an adrenalin rush ' through the episodes questions keep pounding at me '

Will NK believe in Khushi or will he not

Will Shyam fall for NK's trick wont he

Who is following Khushi into Anjalis room .. is it the dreaded Shyam or not

Will Khushi Find the elusive Key to the bag or wont she

So many questions ' in 20 minutes of action packed episodes '

All this so beautifully conveyed by the director today ( oh ok sorry Khan Sahab today)' it was an edge of seat kinda episode ' but an important episode ' as we now have the stage set for battle '

The battle of Good v/s Evil '.

The whole thing so beautifully & symbolically depicted by the Director & writer '.

The code to unlocking the nefarious plans of Shyam "666" ' The Devils no.

The background premise of the entire episode .. is Mata ki puja '

There u go GOOD v/s EVIL

In Hindu mythology '. Whenever a woman engages in battle for Right she is called Mata Ka roop or Mata ka avatar ' & today you saw how in every step that Khushi takes to fight evil .. to right a wrong Devi Maiyya is guiding & helping her '.Superb once again Gautam ' so simple but so effective

The race for the throne has begun '

For Shyam the Throne is Raizada Wealth & Khushi Kumari Gupta SR.

For Khushi .. it's the rethroning of the KING .. Arnav Singh Raizada

The warriors are all lined up ' ready to engage '

Today with the help of ur school time history & mythology lesson the creative team Simply put forth each of the main components of the battle

Before one engages in battle ' it is prudent for any leader to scope out the opponent ''. The leader sends out her most trusted Court jester to the oponents kingdom to unearth the strategy so that she may plan her own strategy '.

Why the court Jester '..

The court Jester ,, is a lovable character ' he is more times than not considered stupid ' he is always making people laugh with his foolish antics ' the court jester entertains ' his presence puts a smile on your face . '.But more times than not the Court Jester is a person with a deep understanding of human Nature ' a person who hides his deep intelligence under the cloak of extreme stupidity .. A court jester more times than not is the person one is most likely to confide in .. he is your confidant '.

The Court Jester today was Nand Kishore '. His stupidity will definitely outclass Shyam's cunningness ' yes ' but whats more ' NK is a an extremely perceptive man '. He has a deep understanding of human nature ' it dint take him long to understand .. without any obvious clues or proofs ' that Shyam was wrong & Khushi was right ' ( what an ally)

Then out comes the Knight

Khushi Kumar Gupta Singh Raizada ' the knight ' she is in the forefront of this battle ' not only is she providing the deepest insights .. she is also the one who will face all the action ' She will be the one to step out & lead from the front.. She will amass all her resources as time goes by & battle to reinstate her KING

The General:

Manorama Mami ' The General of the army '. She has the brain ' she has the cunning ' she has the ability to strategize .. she is also the person one will have to fall back on when front line strategies fail '. But most importantly she holds the trump card ' she holds the Kings highest regard ' her battle cry will be the final war.

The Evil ' no prices in guessing Shyam Manohar Jha .. the man who is almost without scruples .. the man governed by greed, EGO, & Lust ..the man who is sitting smug in his victory.

The KING ' Ofcourse again no price for guessing Arnav Singh Raizada '

Today the Creatives & the Director followed the simple saying Simplicity is the Ultimate Sophistication ' & we got an episode which all of us liked .. no loop holes ( magically the cradle was back in Anjali's room as well) & the message was clear for all to know'..

What Struck me most in the Episode today ;

Was Anjali's reaction to Shyam today ' & I mean not the just NO Trusting statement ' for me it was all in her expressions ' she was looking deep into Shyam;s eyes .. when she told him she doesn't trust him ' she dint once look away while he spoke ' she had a very firm voice when she disagreed with his lie '.. & once again in her no nonsense gentle yet stubborn way she commanded Shyam to do her bidding ' ( Once again raising Shyam babuas EGO & ire)

What did all this mean ' Anjali now suspects all is not well in her dreamworld ' but like the quintessential Indian woman .. she will maintain the facade of happy home ' Anjali knows her husband can sweet talk her ' she doesn't trust his words ' hence she looks into his eyes to know the truth '. One can seldom lie through the eyes when caught unawares ' & interestingly '. She refers to her baby to get Shyam to attend the puja .. ' Does she feel her baby is the only thing binding her husband to her ' does she feel the baby will keep SHyam in her life & hence is all the more precious to her? Just got the feeling " All is Not Well"

The other thing which struck me in the episode was Shyam Manohar Jha

He is turning out to be one cunning fox ' The creatives are having a field day with his character .. the moment you have him figured he takes a turn around '.

First we got a relaxed Shyam ' he was unsuspecting of NK & was completely foxed by Khushi ' then came the Blood stain questioning .. & u saw the guilty Shyam ' & once again a glimpse of the Monumental rage when provoked ' Then u saw the sweet talker who tried to lie his way out of a tight spot ' again here u glimpsed the irritation & temper ( but was controlled & masked)
( Interestingly both these times Khushi was watching him closely ' she will use these insights to engage him ' like I said yesterday she will play on Shyam's EGO, She will reignite his LUST ' & then play on his Greed to get him to fail)

Lastly one saw a SMUG Shyam ' during the PUJA ' the camera kept panning on Shyam ' showing an almost relaxed & smug smile on his face '.

Here in lies his first defeat'. He feels he is undetected .. he feels no one knows his truth. ' he is confident in his success '. He has it figured out ' whatever was stopping him to reach the wealth ( the will or its clause) has been figured out by him .. ( this will unveil very soon)' hence the move to the travel agent ' ( the precap all tie this up)


Herein lies the key to how Khushi will be able to manipulate Shyam ' he is almost assured of his victory ' In his mind he is KING ' now he will want to be generous to his inferiors ( see how he presented the kurta to NK saying keep it) ,,, he will want to line up his admirers around him ' people to fawn over him ' & he will want to own possess every thing or person his heart desires '.

Khushi ' go strike lady ' the iron could'nt be hotter than now '

The other thing that struck me was the withdrawl of Mami from the frontline battle today '. She will still play the role of General ' but will not get down into the battle field any more ' (maybe the full exposure of Shyam is not imminent ' yippee if such is the case)...

Don't know why but was really missing Arnav today ( phew finally missed ASR) ( humein bhi unki WHAT THE ki kami khal rahi thi)

' & that brought forth a plethora of questions '

There is a very popular saying in Hindi ' Marawa Hatti bhi sava lakh ka hota hai '

( meaning a dead elephant is also worth lakhs of Rs.) '...Don't know why today this saying was hammering in my mind ' While sitting to unearth the episode ' this is what I felt ' I understand the warriors ' but what about the KING ' him being in captivity cannot be his decapitation '' end of the line of engaging ' I think not ' I hope not '. I again want to see Arnav engage in battle ' he has to pay back with interest on all the boxes bestowed on him earlier this week ' so waiting & watching.

For Adrenalin junkies like me out there '

Note from Arshad Khan: Guys sit tight .. I am going to give you the ride of a lifetime ' (hahahaha I think this is what he would have said if he had the time )

For me this episode was all about Simplicity .. simplicity in communication, simplicity in direction , simplicity is performance, simplicity in message , simplicity in its technical appeal '.

A lot of what i wanted to say today & what was shown today ... i already touched upon in yesterdays redux ...giving the link to anyone who wants a continuity.

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3031990&TPN=2

Edited by redwine1 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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666?
omen anyone?😆
6+6+6=3x6=18
1+8=9
so we have the numbers 1,3,6,8 and 9
lame, i know😛
but i used to like maths in school😆

14th June, 2012

Magnet

Mojri

Stain

Sprain

Key

Earring

Suraksha

Payal

Baadha

Aap sab jaante hain maate

What was it on Wednesday? Khushi manages to convince NK of Shyam's involvement. I liked NK's stand- he is Khushi's friend, but he still needed convincing. He was willing to check for himself and snake obliged him. I was half expecting NK to give himself away in front of snake but NK was good, he was very, very good. Why is it that some of the more profound and prophetic words in the show are uttered by Mami. She once said, "chor ke dadi mein tinka"; and snake has been acting on this idiom:-

1. First, when he checked under the cradle to see if the hidden papers were still there

2. Now, when he was cleaning his shoe watched by both NK and Khushi

NK and Khushi discuss matters in their room. NK gets to know that Mami knows that Arnav is kidnapped but not that Shyam is invoved. NK cautions Khushi about keeping her impulsiveness under check. Sensible guy! Nani enters and informs them of the pooja next day, which Anjali has kept for the family's "suraksha"; she also tells Khushi rather indulgently that the one on top of Anjali's list is Arnav. She proceeds to send the two children off to bed. NK while leaving promises to keep an eye on jijai. The CVs do have a whacky sense of humour- though the episode were filled with obscure hints towards various tracks, they used the word "filler" in NK's dialogue.😆

Next day NK and Khushi are spying on Shyam, when Anjali comes into the room. The two sleuths hear him stumbling over his words to Anjali and realize he is up to no good. Anjali does keep a tight leash on her hubby doesn't she? If at all the snake manages to turn the tables in his favour as he is trying incessantly to do, she is in for a rough ride. She asks him where he is going. He says he is going to court. She says he is lying, and further informs him that SK travels called on the landline and asked about his meeting with them. He tries to get out of it by saying he forgot- but she interrupts him impatiently. She wants to know why he wants to go to SK travels. He says he is planning a holiday for the two of them before her delivery; and all is well in "snake-land." What worried me here that the top priority on Anjali's "suraksha" list is her baby and not Arnav as informed by Nani earlier. Are Anjali's priorities changing?😕

Anjali leaves the room. NK and Khushi plan to check out Shyam's briefcase. Some really inane dialogues by NK here. What's with his emphasizing that he will check the briefcase only after Shyam is out of the room? It is understood, isn't it? He can hardly walk in and ask Shyam, "Jijai, may I play with your briefcase for a while, pretty please?" can he? As for the number lock code, that was hilarious😆. Snake really has an inflated ego hasn't he. He considers himself huge enough to be associated with that number.

Khushi proceeds downstairs. Mami is shown hurt. She send masala away and asks Khushi about how the "inbhestigation" is proceeding. Khushi says she will handle it, when Manorama is piqued that Khushi is ousting her from the procedure just because she is hurt. Khushi pacifies her saying she has taken NK into confidence. Mami give her blessings to the duo to proceed and demands to be kept up-to-date on the proceedings. The pooja starts. Khushi is shown anxious and plotting to disrupt the pooja. Snake appears content and is shown smiling. NK enters saying he failed as the briefcase didn't have a number lock but one which opened with a key. Khushi leaves to try her hand. She is in Anjali's room searching for the keys. She asks for DM's help. It comes in the form of her earrings falling down, Payal's arrival and her spotting the keys on the floor under the carpet. The "rogue will" is also shown taped to the underside of the cradle. Front front will see what happenz!

Why are Khushi's clothes hanging in Anjali's closet?

How does Khushi's earring fall with the fastener intact?

A viewer's musings:-
    I am getting bored if it wasn't for REDUX I would have stopped watching by now- I am enjoying myself by aping Doods and trying to pick out clues.
  • I understand the CVs can't do anything about it until their lead comes back, but what has a lay viewer got to do with it? Generally people watch it for entertainment and yes, the story has been fast paced in BS absence. In fact I enjoyed the episodes more after the Kidnap. but now it beginning to pall, no help for it. There is only so much of amateur sluething that I can take.

I am sure something can be done even before BS comes back. Come on, Hegde and the rest of Ruby's G club, you are supposed to be brilliant!

Edited by sonshine - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ Doods, Confluence of what?? Confluence of all the info coming together & Khushi finding the way to ASR??

Btw, all the usual analysts, lovely analysis, have been reading them, Arhimaniac, Nia, Redwine, Jhalak, Mommamia, sorry don't know your names, all of you have done an amazing job analyzing the episode. Keep up the good work guys. 👏

Doods still waiting for your analysis, will read once you have it up...
Edited by pixiegirl - 13 years ago
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Cast your cares on God; that anchor holds.
-Frank Moore Colby

In bygone days the mighty kings performed Shakti puja before they headed for war to invoke blessings of the divine mother to grant them victory. Now Khushi and Arnav are going to wage war against Shyam. So it called for a havan/puja. In the initial days of IPK, how many countless havans we have had. And there was a dry spell soon after the wedding. Since DM and Khushi were not in talking terms, we missed it. Now again we got to witness one!! Thanks Anjali. Its was a much needed one. For your chote and your baby. Raksha kavach.

In today's episode each and every character sans mama contributed something or the other. CVs cleverly eliminated mami from the equation for time being so that she will be there for the final terrace confrontation. Playing her part as Devil's advocate as Doods pointed out. Aakash confirmed this by saying Mate aap sab kuch jaanthi hai.

TightRope walk anyone. Or rather Highwire walk. Little bit you falter, your very bones will be crushed to pieces. You need to position one foot in front of another while on the wire. The support is drastically reduced. That is what Khushi is doing now. She is walking on a Highwire,blinkers on and her eyes, heart and mind focused on Arnavji. Usually a highwire walker uses a pole for support and balance. It distributes the mass away from the body of the walker. The result is less tipping. That pole is our Nanheji. He rightly pointed it to her how dangerous it was for Khushi to barge in on Shyam. And to imagine the consequences if it was actually Shyam and not Nanheji. He is her guiding her and being her support system. He has brought some stability in Khushi now. She can now discuss with someone about Shyam. Both are keeping an eye on his dealings. As they say two pair of eyes is always better than one.

Its such a wonderful feeling to hear Devi maiyya from Khushi. We were missing that since February. The mother 'daughter equation and understanding is something to reckon with. Awesome chemistry. The moment daughter calls for help, mother sends her resources. The moment daughter is in danger, mother signals her. (I really hope our scatter brain Khushi grasps it).So far so good. Its doing wonders.

War declared . Divine blessings invoked. The conch has been blown. Soldiers in position. As they say

"Truth is mighty and will prevail."

We know who the winner is here. But at the cost of what is to be seen. (My votes are on Anjali).

CVs:

1.666 That was hilarious. We already know who Satan is.

2. Fillers OK. To be frank your fillers are much better than the content filled ones!! We are enjoying it to the core. More fillers please.

3.The innocent slip ups of Nanheji are correctly proportioned. Loving it.

Pointers:
1.Doods 7th angel is so so proved Mate aap ko sab pata hai
2.Shyam said Time De rakha hai and it was distrupted by DM through Anjali..
3.Suraksha from nani's words was for Arnav and from Anjali it was for her baby. So definitely no miscarriage. And also baby has taken precedence over Arnav for Anjali.. 🤢.
Arnav kuch apne behen se seekh..
4.Key = Truth lands in Khushi's hand (Geeta thank you)
5.Payal-Khushi interaction. Khushi stumbles and lies.. Last time she lied about the earring we have a terrace confrontation. So hinted by CVs the second one is near(thanks Bushy)
6.SK travels..I am sure Doods will have anwers to this.
7.Adalat jaa raha hoon (Judgement Thanks Bushy)
Edited by mommamia - 13 years ago
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Today's episode reminded me of "Jung ke pehle ki taiyyari"😳 and that "Bhagwaan humesha Sachchai ka saath dete hain"...we got many hints of that in today's episode!!!😃


Doodsie, apt title "Confluence" meaning "act of meeting at a juncture/act of flowing together"👏👏👏


I liked today's episode and it was very exciting..kept me on the edge guessing various pros and cons😳😆 It was a good episode and an important one!!😃


So, players getting ready for the upcoming battle😉 me likey😳


And guys, u know wat today's episode kind of reminded me off "Mahabhaarat yudh" 😛
the same clash between "Satya Vs Asatya" i.e. GOD Vs EVIL...time and time again GOD has always taken side of "Satya" i.e. TRUTH then how and why would GOD allow Shyam to win now!!
So, m sure there wont be any further MU between Arnav-Khushi...Shyam will try to create rift between them and both Arnav-Khushi will play along too but wont believe Shyam's lies...Shyam wont know of this until its late coz he is still doesn't know of "Arnav-Khushi's equation"!!!


Today both NK and Khushi kind of referred to HP and that "HP tapak gaye" 😉
HP indirectly witnessed Shyam in questionable positions many a times...maybe he will also join hands to unveil Shyam's evil face when need arise!!!!


I liked Mamiji, Khushi and NK's positioning when they sat for the puja😉 they kind of formed a triangle with Mamiji shown in the apex and Khushi-NK in other two corners 😛
Nice camera work there!!!⭐️


Khushi gave NK the code to open Shyam's briefcase to his dirty deeds..."666" apt one👏👏👏
NK went ahead to discover that the briefcase actually needs a "KEY" to open it up...here "KEY" again signifies the "KEY TO THE TRUTH"...Khushi then asked for her Devi Maiyya's permission to go and search for that "KEY"...Finally with Devi Maiyya and Paayal's help she got the KEY!!!

M still confused of wat's Payal's role in all these i.e. in finding out the key aka the TRUTH😕 maybe Doodsie will help us out😳😛

Edit:

P.S: How could I forget the Paayal being one of the "7 angels" will help unveiling the TRUTH...thanks Doodsie for reminding me again!!!😳🤗

Edited by RiyaDutta - 13 years ago
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Bushy ...


Thank God For Khan Sahab & G Club ... ab tum padh paogi ... 😃 .. short & sweet today ... Simple like the episode ... 😉

Edited by redwine1 - 13 years ago
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Ruby wow 👏

loved it😃🤗

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Originally posted by: redwine1

Bushy ...


Thank God For Khan Sahab & G Club ... ab tum padh paogi ... 😃 .. short & sweet today ... Simple like the episode ... 😉


Aaj to tareefon ke pul bandhe hain😃

magar ab aik question bhi daala hai...😆
Edited by Arhimaniac - 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Arhimaniac


Aaj to tareefon ke pul bandhe hain😃

magar ab aik question bhi daala hai...😆


Kya question ?

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