Love-Trust - Is it a BIND or a BOND??

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--Nargis--

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Posted: 13 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: lwfw
nagz aww not too many takes for -ve comment on ASR.

yes i understand what you are saying i loved it when she said " if you can think about me so low then you do not deserve any explanation " 👏
i have read a quote some where it says " you do not have to explain to a person who does not understand you because the person will never understand what you are saying and the person who loves and knows you , needs no explanation"

dear you querry is exactly correct thats why the name of the show is " Is pyar ko kya naam doon" you can call it as love 😉 then what is it hmm i guess the journey is about love, may be one day he will learn to love her, trust her and will be able to openly express his feeling 😳

till then yes he does not love her

may sound cynical 😭 but does unconditional love exists ( other than between mom and child)

Sharu...🤗

Yes...I loved her reaction...and I am glad she did what she did!! If there is not an unconditional romantic love, I am sure there is at least unconditional TRUST. At least they can travel towards that...no??

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Aparna

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Posted: 13 years ago

#12

I dont think arnav is at fault fully because any person learns to act on everything by his experience and we know he lost his parents at d age of 15 and he hv taken those things very badly.
He hurts ppl to he loves.
and on the other hand is khushi
she believes in fairy tale and god just to remain away from hurt and pain
eventually khushi wl forgive him knowing how arnav is and arnav wl also start trusting her, and this is their love which happend in unique way and grow further.
its a story

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654772

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Posted: 13 years ago

#13

Hey Nagsi Wagsi!!

Good to see you after so long. Hmmm interesting topic. Contrary to popular belief love does exist without trust, but the relationship can not last unless trust is built. So I think it is very possible to love her to distraction but not trust her, however their marriage is standing on flimsy juice boxes due to lack of trust on both sides.

Now lets come to Arnav... don't we just love dissecting him when we'd rather be divesting his clothes... but beggars can't be choosers. Arnav has issues which haven't been brought to light as yet. However his taunting speech on Tuesday confirmed one thing, the depth of his hurt at being betrayed yet again.

What I love about Khushi though is that she doesn't let her love for him side track her from her own self worth. She is not willing to be a Mopey slave-for-you types. That in my eyes is true love, when your not afraid to show them the mirror when their wrong and not allow them to walk all over you.

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Chickee

@Chickee

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Posted: 13 years ago

#14

Nags, I love you baby

but since I stopped watching, i have no commantz, only to put here...

ALAS!

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jasw

@jasw

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Posted: 13 years ago

#15

Thanks for the PM. Saw the episodes for last two days. It's high time we see this interaction. Both sides are at fault and responsible for this. Can't take sides. Arnav, the way he grew up will have its effect and Khushi is bearing that brunt. My sympathies lie with both of them.

Just read Barun is leaving for 11 days, what timing!! I don't know how the CVs'are going to pull it off. I just wonder why the CVs when they had both their leads at their disposal, opted for the mindless comedy and now that the story is moving we have to make do with one lead missing!

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Malvika18

@Malvika18

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Posted: 13 years ago

#16

Great post!!. 😉

First, I would like to say that the wasn't even a microscopic flaw in the episode. All segments, absolutely fine and directed with special attention on little details. Like, Arnav holding Khushi by her shoulders which still says the extent to which he loves her and then angered by Khushi's flabbergasting reactions.. The scene where Shyam has begun his plotting all the way to aim the target- Arnav!!. And most importantly, the scene where Arnav is reminded of Khushi's confession at Holi and how just to block the very memory of hurting er, he closes his eyes.. And midst this boiling tension, the fact that all of it began at the TERRACE, and yet , they find themselves on the same place in the same situation again.. Kudos to CVs for clinging onto the story. They absolutely rocked the show today.. Dialogues were fabulous. And literally, a standing ovation to all the actors. Marvelous input of expressions by the two of 'em..

And other than that, yeeaay, we got ourselves a New extended version of Rabba Ve. ❤️

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--Revv--

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Posted: 13 years ago

#17

Hey Nagz..

I am conphused.. when did Arnav say he loves Khushi 😕😕😕.. Did I miss any episode?

I thought both were still in the denial mode and required bhaang to talk in cryptic langauge about heart beats increasing 😆😆😆

Ok ok,,, I can see the murderous look 🤢🤢.. I will get serious 😳😳

Arnav has never accepted to himself that he is soft hearted towards Khushi.. forget about love!!!

2ndly, there can always be love without trust...Trust without understanding... These are all instictive feelings.. Sometimes, there is no logic... Maybe in her he sees how his mom used to be... We dont know the dynamics of his mind... why he steadfastly holds on to that one convo.. Hasnt it happened to you too ?? Maybe a friend or person u thought u knew well turned out to be quite opposite.. So whatever she does, he can see pretense.. cos when no one was there.. Only Shyam and she were there and what he heard was pretty incriminating..

Our experiences color out perceptions.. our decisions and our outlook towards life!!!

The kind of ppl he has seen are only bothered about Arnav, the money maker.. not Arnav the man.. except his sis, granny and Akash!! (Dont know abt mamaji)...

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--Nargis--

@--Nargis--

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Posted: 13 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: --Revv--
Hey Nagz..

I am conphused.. when did Arnav say he loves Khushi 😕😕😕.. Did I miss any episode?

I thought both were still in the denial mode and required bhaang to talk in cryptic langauge about heart beats increasing 😆😆😆

Ok ok,,, I can see the murderous look 🤢🤢.. I will get serious 😳😳

Arnav has never accepted to himself that he is soft hearted towards Khushi.. forget about love!!!

2ndly, there can always be love without trust...Trust without understanding... These are all instictive feelings.. Sometimes, there is no logic... Maybe in her he sees how his mom used to be... We dont know the dynamics of his mind... why he steadfastly holds on to that one convo.. Hasnt it happened to you too ?? Maybe a friend or person u thought u knew well turned out to be quite opposite.. So whatever she does, he can see pretense.. cos when no one was there.. Only Shyam and she were there and what he heard was pretty incriminating..

Our experiences color out perceptions.. our decisions and our outlook towards life!!!

The kind of ppl he has seen are only bothered about Arnav, the money maker.. not Arnav the man.. except his sis, granny and Akash!! (Dont know abt mamaji)...

OMG😲...can it be the 3rd IDIOT??? Wonders never cease!!!😆

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arshia

@ashvez

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#19

Nags...sorry for the late reply.
Very well said...about why Arnav is what he is, and how he has become one.👍🏼
But my only concern is, how could he trust a creep like Shyam and get carried away by whatever he is throwing at him.When he knows very well, that the creep has so conveniently been hiding his interest behind the back of his Di and his whole family, then he is much more treacherous , schematic and dangerous.How, he can't do some checking...coz one thing was for sure, when Khushi revealed that Shyam was his fiance , Arnav seemed to get shocked, so that piece of information was new for him...hence, he did not check on her or Shyam...din't even attempt.That is little disturbing for me to take ASR's character as so lame ...he is supposed to be very shrewd and sharp.Either he already knows it and trying to mask and get it out from Khushi or I don't what kind of googly is stored for us.Coz its very difficult to digest ASR as a big fool, whereas the dumbass Shyam to be so ahead of ASR always...Shyam is been playing with everyone and all are dancing to his tunes, that is completely ridiculous.
Khushi, must show her mettle with her brains, like she did when the two men had conned ASR and Akash .Hope so, fingers crossed.

Nags, how did u like the new hairstyle of Barun for his new movie? Although, its very cute and boyish for his movie(maybe) but it doesn't give an ASR appeal.I hope here the gel would do the trick. How I hate that gel, although now I am so wanting it to be on his hair now, so that the hard, hawt look is back like in Diwali...Hai!!!😍

Ash.

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--Nargis--

@--Nargis--

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Posted: 13 years ago

#20

Originally posted by: ashvez
Nags...sorry for the late reply.
Very well said...about why Arnav is what he is, and how he has become one.👍🏼
But my only concern is, how could he trust a creep like Shyam and get carried away by whatever he is throwing at him.When he knows very well, that the creep has so conveniently been hiding his interest behind the back of his Di and his whole family, then he is much more treacherous , schematic and dangerous.How, he can't do some checking...coz one thing was for sure, when Khushi revealed that Shyam was his fiance , Arnav seemed to get shocked, so that piece of information was new for him...hence, he did not check on her or Shyam...din't even attempt.That is little disturbing for me to take ASR's character as so lame ...he is supposed to be very shrewd and sharp.Either he already knows it and trying to mask and get it out from Khushi or I don't what kind of googly is stored for us.Coz its very difficult to digest ASR as a big fool, whereas the dumbass Shyam to be so ahead of ASR always...Shyam is been playing with everyone and all are dancing to his tunes, that is completely ridiculous.
Khushi, must show her mettle with her brains, like she did when the two men had conned ASR and Akash .Hope so, fingers crossed.

Nags, how did u like the new hairstyle of Barun for his new movie? Although, its very cute and boyish for his movie(maybe) but it doesn't give an ASR appeal.I hope here the gel would do the trick. How I hate that gel, although now I am so wanting it to be on his hair now, so that the hard, hawt look is back like in Diwali...Hai!!!😍

Ash.

Ash... Thanks for the reply!! And as for Arnav's actions and reactions, I too believe it would be inconsistent for Arnav not to have a better handle on this Shayam business. I think there is a googly in store. I am of the belief that the will that Shayam has gotten his hands on is not he real will, there is one final one that post dates the march 12th, 2012 shown in Shayam's possession. I feel this is a trap for Shayam to try something extreme.

As for Arnav's illogical and inconsistent behavior in believing Shayam over Khushi about their involvement...all I can say is that Arnav is deeply hurt by the betrayal he has seen from Khushi...remember he went to the terrace to confess his love to Khushi...this supposed BETRAYAL has made him blind to anything to do with Khushi...he cannot trust his own mind or follow his heart...he is a a bad KASH MA KASH...hence there is no progress there. One month after the incident, he is still in the same place...simply too HURT to do anything beyond the immediate marriage to Khushi to decommission her plans to destroy his Di's life.

When it comes to Khushi and his Di, the 2 people closest to his heart...he looses all rational thought...they are his Achilles heal...they have the power to destroy him.

I have rambles quite a bit...hope it makes some sense.😛

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