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Posted: 13 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: Drwho

Phew Annie, I am 8 pages too late and haven't read all the responses but if you are referring to the issues as they pertain to the show, (esp because on the forum we can primarily only talk about the show!!), if we leave aside the weak and at times absurd and barely plausible characterisation and inconsistent and sloppy story telling, there is a lot that is unknown to us.


We know that both Anjali and Arnav were orphaned at a vulnerable age and the way this happened seems to be shrouded in some mystery. Also it seems they endured severe hardship at the hands of relatives being thrown out on to the street when they were children. I also seem to think based on flash backs, that Anjali was going to be married before and that is in some way related to their parents demise. It is likely that this bro and sis became so entwined and enmeshed as a result, to such an extent that they are struggling to disentangle now . Arnav, doesnt seem to have cared for anyone apart from his di until now.

As far as love (I assume you mean romantic love) is concerned, Arnav has been immensely attracted to Khushi yes but he is only just falling in love and he is caught between the devil and the deep blue sea!! He is yet to make his choice really, at least that is what I feel. People do indeed have this dilemma in real life too and I have no answer really, I dont think there is a right answer to this question. seen people make either choice, duty or love, some are happy, some are not. So I dont know.😃

And of course everything is blown out of proportion in reel life, poetic licence or should I say dramatic license!! Inspite of that, your question is most interesting and pertinent, rather more than our usual preoccupation with Barun's long and greasy hair or his(lack of) muscles!!😃

Meri beti the voice of sanity and reason! True what you say in your summary Alot of unanswered questions therefore reasons for brotherly need to protect whether out of love or duty is all still an unknown quantity.
Are you serious when did we discuss barun's long and greasy hair? Or did we? We are that fickle? Never!!😆😆😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: enigma17

Meri beti the voice of sanity and reason! True what you say in your summary Alot of unanswered questions therefore reasons for brotherly need to protect whether out of love or duty is all still an unknown quantity.

Are you serious when did we discuss barun's long and greasy hair? Or did we? We are that fickle? Never!!😆😆😆


Fickle??? Never !!!! Never !!! Barun's hair is a most serious issue!! But we do need to have fun sometimes with mundane matters like the discussion you have started. 😆

My thoughts are racing, but I need to attend to chores, hence will come back to pontificate later, I am sure this debate will continue for some time. I have read some of the brilliant responses and desperate to read all of them.😊

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Posted: 13 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: Drwho


Fickle??? Never !!!! Never !!! Barun's hair is a most serious issue!! But we do need to have fun sometimes with mundane matters like the discussion you have started. 😆

My thoughts are racing, but I need to attend to chores, hence will come back to pontificate later, I am sure this debate will continue for some time. I have read some of the brilliant responses and desperate to read all of them.😊

Hurry back. Little did I think it would bring about such interesting and diverse opinions.
Such a good feedback so hurry back😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Annie I have so much to say about this topic and so lil time ...today of all days duty calls...so will be back to pontificate some more...
meanwhile I would like to point out that south asian societies donot by any chance hold the monopoly over emotional blackmail of ones duties...
we presume that all caucasians fall under the catogary of nuclear societies...
the 'others ' far out weigh the number contest and caucsians are not uniform in practice...
A large part of my family that is not south asian actually conform well to the conflict between spouce and family...duty and duty...love and love...
some make it some fail...
Also I might be in the minority...but I do believe that your relationship with your spouce is not the only relationship in your life it is one of many that have to weave to gether to form the fabric of your being...
but I will be back later to pontificate some more...😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: angel_eyez123


🤣 So true! I often think Arnav was meant to be written as a grouch, meany, selfish, all these negative traits where the audience was meant to dislike or disapprove of him whilst Khushi is meant to be the polar opposite and everyone would feel for her and be rooting for her. But a lot of people find it easier to relate to Arnav than Khushi, because at least Arnav has the balls to make things happen...

Doormat spouses annoy me. I'm so glad Khushi has enough spunk to stand up for herself when she has to.


haha yes. i saw arnav and could relate to him to a certain extent. i mean the man was as flawed as they come.

despite the inner gopi in Khushi, i am glad she has the spunk! dammit i fell in love with her, when she pushed arnav and threatened to cut his balls in that building👏

I applaud the CVs for showing us, two flawed characters ( actaully the show is filled with flawed idiots).. india probably isnt ready for them yet, but i am glad they did it anyways.
but if they change arnav and khushi to gopi and ahem, i will kill someone... ( okay maybe not. i dont care that much)
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: barun2297

great question posed n many people will have different takes on it. I believe, despite luv always being projected as superior in the end in real life many people r restricted with their duties. At present in iss pyar i wudnt refer 2 arnavs overprotectiveness of anjali as far fetched 4 three main reasons, firstly anjali has additional vulnerabiliy coz of her polio. Secondly coz of her very naive n gullible character n lastly coz they have both been orphans since a long time. Therefore i think arnavs concern is understandable.

agreed
just gonna say that
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Obviously in the show it is exaggerated to the very extent that after you finish watching the episode you actually feel you were in another far of world and its more shocking when you see people actually falling for it and taking it be real. In reality i think, its about finding the right balance between love and duty? Knowing just where the boundaries should not be crossed as both are important to you; Love and Duty. And its also about the partner understanding and their few steps towards understanding you also. Like a combined effort!



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Posted: 13 years ago
#68

Originally posted by: enigma17


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<font color="#660033">That is the beauty of pontifications ...the difference of opinions and thought processes.</font>

<font color="#660033">Indeed reality could have the call of duty pulling us much much so than the proverbial pull of the heartstrings.</font>


<strong><font color="#660033">Anjali, naive and gullible? Really? Not manipulative, devious and cunning? Or am I viewing her in a rather warped and twisted manner? She has her brother dangling on the end of a very short string. </font>


true 2 a certain extent but if she has the power 2 tug at his heart strings than love is inevitably also a part of the equation n questions of oppression shud b eliminated. Also i meant by gullible that she is easily decieved, her husband who she literally worships has been cheating on her 4 the past year n she doesnt have a clue?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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oh wow how did I miss this. Came in thinking that pls god let this not be one of those "eeks I touched the ground sanaya walked in or yippee I touched her duppatta" (No offense to the actor or the fans)

Coming to your point -well its been dissected in every angle possible & anything I would say now would look like it has been refurbished.

NOt only do i feel that this commitment/duty phobia is community based but also gender based which is what the CVs of many shows (including IPK ) are playing upon. If the tables were turned & it was anjali who found out that shyam had a relationship with khushi I doubt IPK would have turned out to be a Bharatia Nari' type of story(poor asr wouldn't have the limelight & khushi would have escaped).

In Indian society you can see many ASR's (though may not be so explicitly ruthless)& many more anjali's

ok now I am officially confused as to what I am getting at 😕 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: barun2297


true 2 a certain extent but if she has the power 2 tug at his heart strings than love is inevitably also a part of the equation n questions of oppression shud b eliminated. Also i meant by gullible that she is easily decieved, her husband who she literally worships has been cheating on her 4 the past year n she doesnt have a clue?

Hey barun227

Arnav's consern for anjaIi is understandabIe , but compromising his duties towards his wife , or fuIIfiIIng his duties towards his wife cos anjaIi wants him to is not , i think it is a very wrong wayof projecting a reIationship

Same with shyam , she is in a way cIue Iess because arnav is not aIIowing her to Iook beyond what he want her to see, that is a happy marriage , when in my opinion is wrong as the choice of whether she want to be married to shyam shouId be entireIy her's

Khushi is aIso doing the same mistake to anjaIi

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