Curtailment and Pontifications - Page 5

Originally posted by: enigma17

Tangam and that is why we love your opinions...out n the edge or was that the ledge?😆

Opressive duty/love call it what you is never a healthy thing.

At least from my humble point of view. Moderation tinged with freewill

Originally posted by: ttt1

Everybody has certain weakness and insecurities , to show the characters Iearn and overcome them makes a good story ,

as with asr , his duty towards his sister if we view it as an independent entitie , understandabIe , but when peopIe other than himseIf and his siter[his wife and her husband] is coming into pIay , is it justifiabIe i think is the question

Compromise maybe? Justifiable? No I don't think so. Responsibilities comes in all shapes and sizes and to shirk one for the other is that acceptable?

to what extent compromising on his responsibility towards his wife or involvement in his sister Iife is justifiable

Same with khushi , she is married t this man without even being aware of the reason to what extent shouId she be expected to fuIfiII her duty, or stay married for the sake of famiIy or honour[yesterday she was shown to cover up for her husband ]

Does khushi not do that with all that are directly and indirectly involved in her life even that hideous toad be it for the right reasons or not. As for protecting her husband she is afterall in love with him whatever we may think of it. And I am playing devil's advocate!

I think they both are weak and insecure to acknowledge either the issues in their marriage , or to reach at a sensibIe soIution

it is an exaggerated version of any reaI reIationship ,not justifiabIe or right but it is fiction at the end of the day , nobody wants to watch cIiched normaIcy , so I agree with smirti it shouId be just viewed as one not mixed with reaI

btw heIIo everbody🤗

annie awesome post

Originally posted by: tangam

Hi Meera, |Smrithi, Priya, Dashing giri (how would you like to be adressed) and barun (that feels a bit odd ...but I dont know your name!!!)...and anyone else I missed...

lovely topic to be pontificating on right up my alley...

Annie darling will be back with more...after this short break (I now put commercials for myself😆)

Originally posted by: enigma17

Thank you Priya and hello😊

Originally posted by: angel_eyez123

Hello people...Love the discussion today..

I've always felt that SP tends to exaggerate family bonds too much. It's always been shown that a man puts his mother, father etc before his wife. In places like India however this probably seems normal to the majority of the demographic watching. But for people like me in the West, it's usually a tad unbelievable.

I have family principles and duties as much as the next person, but dramas tend to glorify how girls especially should sacrifice their own happiness for the sake of such duties. They might have a positive moral of the story yes, but it doesn't mean that all girls should copy these leads completely.

Even Sanaya urges girls to not be like Khushi!

Originally posted by: Lurvebooks

Annie, am luvving this topic . nothing gets my cerebral juices flowing faster than your pontifications! 👏

Pleased to hear that and can you please put it good use. The next instalment to you wonderful FF. I am eagerly waiting here.

As with any discussion the sheer myriad of opinions is amazing. I woud like to pick-up on the point made about women who sacrifice for duty ... I think yes there is that ... on the flip side you have men who put duty for family above their wives ... this isn't a fictitious take ...

... but the crux of the matter is the definition of "family" ... for some it never extends beyond your immediate blood relations - mother, father, siblings ... the spouse is only an addage ... an extension .. but never quite included ... here is where duty vs. love sees the greatest conflict.

Are you serious? This is rather shocking to me as it is news to me. To have a lifelong mate who will possibly take on the most profound role in the creation of children and to be viewed in this manner is appalling

then you have "family" where it encapsulates your spouse and children whilst your mater/pater etc are loved at a distance ... would you then say this is love trumping duty? or love merging with duty? is duty only for parents (for simplicity I am taking siblings out of the equation for now) ...

In a perfect world its should be an all encompassing love but we do not live in a perfect world

then you have the Sooraj Bharjatya (reference to Bollywood filmaker) family where mother, father, siblings, spouse, children, dog are all "family" and there never arises the need to debate duty or love ...

Define family and the lines between duty and love will either blur or strengthen.

Therefore becoming a personal choice in the decisions one makes and the harmony or discord it creates therefore questioning the unity or the breakup of the duty/love

Shameless plug (ala Gits) 😃- to read what got Annie pondering :

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/iss-pyaar-ko-kya-naam-doon/2958831/ff-chp-2-perfect-fit

Originally posted by: tia.o

ASR is good at so many things. A good businessman, a great brother, awesome grandson, amazing nephew, outstanding son-in-law. But he is not a good husband yet. Ganted, it's a contract marriage and all these MU and all. But if his obsessive coddling of his sister making her even more dependant and helpless does not stop, he will never be a good husband. He thinks he is protecting his sister by marrying Khushi. But Khushi was never a physical threat to begin with. On the other hand, he let lose Shyam on his sister in spite of witnessing his obsessive behavior. He could have easily send Shyam away from the house until delivery. But he decided on behalf of his sister to keep her under an illusion. I wonder how would Anjali feel when she realizes that her darling brother was hiding such a huge truth from her. Don't get me wrong, Khushi has hid the truth from her too. But when she hid it, she was nobody to them and later her position was so bad that she never thought to disclose it anymore. But all along ASR played God with everyone's life. That's called tyranny not relationship. In future, even when he knows the truth, he needs to treat Anjali as woman not a child and to give her space. Otherwise he can never do justice to his relationship with Khushi and be a great husband.

Originally posted by: tiya229

Amen to this! also, i find that if a man/woman is shown to be watching their own backs or in a a word "selfish" they are painted as evil, self-centered, scheming bitches. over the years, if i ever watch a SP for a few days, i have noticed this trend. the thing is that, i almost always support the "evil person", there is nothing wrong in watching out for yourself, specially when the family/spouse is a f**king doormat!

but according to SP and other channels: a woman who puts her hubby's family above all is the ideal daughter-in law. A husband who puts his mother before his wife and her sacrificies is the greatest man alive.

Originally posted by: MentalExotica

Hello,

Great topic.

"Priorities" and "Making the right choice" as a lesson are never given importance when bringing up a child.

You teach them the basics

1. Never Lie

2. Respect you elders.

3. Work Hard

4. Be courteous to one and all

et all

But to take decisions and set your priorities right is never a topic many discuss with thier children.

So eventually everyone struggles emotionally and physically to choose what is right.

Why do we always end up having choices?

Why are we always stuck at cross roads?

OUR INABILITY TO TAKE DECISIONS CONFIDENTLY. - SAD BUT TRUE.