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Posted: 13 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: pamk06




Anna,

Lovely Analysis !!!😃

I really liked the above part where you pulled down the differences between ASR of RM and Arnav of GH. He is really very comfortable here because this feels more like home to him than RM ever did.



I second this - loved the above part of Anna's analysis.

@Pam - nice detailed take on the significance of marraige, magalsutra and sindoor. In the lower middle class families a girl coming back from her sasuraal is also a big stigma both for the girl and the family and what they have to face from society. I wonder why Khushi is not thinking about the consequences of her mission whereby she wants ASR to throw her out of RM. How does she plan to answer the family and society?

I hope there is a conversation among the wedding guests who have come on this topic and Khushi hears it and faces some truths herself. If she does succeed in getting thrown out - then what?




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Posted: 13 years ago
#92
the epi was really good.. enjoyed it very much !!
loved your post sathya , doods and other's who have taken the pains to write their analysis of the epi..

one thing which i could not accept was ASR being flirty with khushi during the AC scene.. the golgappe scene went with the flow.. loved it.. but the AC scene i felt that somehow it didnt fit with the mood of their relationship now.. i enjoyed watching the scene though..
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Posted: 13 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: Lizzy2012

@ Pam-just read.just giving u a 🤗 .just my thought process reflected there.seems like we women are an emotional lot and can hear my husband saying" girls will be girls." without taking the MS and the sindoor into consideration also marriage means a great deal to we women.am I right?



Yes, marriage is more important to girls and I say this because staying here in US, I have met so many girls of this country who have dreamed about marriage since a young age. I have not seen that same drive in the men. But our culture is different, the marriage gene is inputted in both the genders since a young age but for girls its more important or as you say we are more emotional.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#94

Originally posted by: Cool_wonder

Hello all my dear friends...

Well I dont know if this message of mine will get posted or no...because my office system is giving me loads of problems😡...
Well well well...Just went through the analysis of Doodles and Tant's and I have to again say...you two put down your thoughts in words so beautifully and understand the story so beautifully.👏..
Well...now let me tell what I felt about the episode yesterday...
It was a neetly weaven episode if you ask me...
1. The continuation was good..
2. They way they showed Kushi feeding Golgappa to her family was cute ..but it also was had a purpose...to me it indicated the role these family members will play in finally bringing these two into light out of darkness...Buaji askes Kushi to feed ASR...Kushi is reluctant first but than when ASR himself hints her to feed him she goes and sweetly feeds Golgappa to him.. this scene showed the part this family will pay to bring these two together
3. I loved the Arnav Kushi scenes yesterday ...it had a balance..and was OTT...
4. ASR was a bit flirty yestrday...well to me it showed that he is just a normal man...but tough situations in life has taken away fun and naughtyness from his life at a very young age..
yesterday we could see the glimps of Future Arnav who will be Kushis Dewana..😍...
He did flirt but in a controlled manner🤣 and Kushi was taken back...
5. I ready Tant's analysis where she has explained the relationship between Marriage and different problems it had on Arnav and Kushi ...and I completely agree with her...
**Tants it was beautifully written👏**
Over all the episode was nice and good...Also I was happy yesterday seeing a slight increase in IPKKND TRP's 👏..I really hope it continoues to flow up from here😳
LOVE ALL



Thank You, Ruchi


I too was not surprised to see Arnav mocking Khushi, cos this reminded me about the Glue incident of Akash..If Arnie boy can do that, he can mock too..waise bhi sarcasm is like second skin to him..😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
#95

Originally posted by: --Anna--

Hola people 🤗


Sathya, will wait for your update tomorrow morning! 😃


Coming to my analysis ; After watching the episode today I had really thought that I would not be writing anything today and that was because for some reason I myself cannot put into words what I felt about the episode. I know I liked it - but I cannot pin-point on exactly what. Today's episode again left me wanting for more and now I know why.


It is because of Arnav Singh Raizada. This track has made me see the difference between the Raizada ladies and the Gupta ladies and Arnav's living style in both the houses. There is no doubt about the fact that this man has two different personalities ' one an outer layer that is ruthless and egoistic while the other which is hidden deep deep down below which is waiting to burst out of him and will come out only when he receives that extra something ' called genuine love and care.


I will start off with the RM ladies and their relationships with Arnav :


Anjali : Arnav's life ' the reason he lives. After their horrible past, Anjali and Arnav have been together and each other's support and their lives depend on each other. Arnav however is the practical one and he keeps his feelings aside and lives his life - concentrating on work and his di simultaneously. However one would believe that after having Shyam in her life - Anjali would stop clinging to Arnav and would focus on Shyam - however that is not the case. She clings to Arnav, she seeks out to him and wants to believe that she understands her "chotte" the best. However time and again and especially with this track it is proved that no - she does not know him the way she thinks she does.

She loves him no doubt about that - however she manipulates him in her own way, she is concerned about him - but it seems superficial now and she does know him - but not that very well. Infact - Does she actually know who her "chotte" is and how badly is he haunted by the ghosts of his past!? No.


Nani : I have always believed - that from the two siblings it is Anjali who is Nani's favourite - maybe because she reminds her of her own daughter but when it comes to Arnav - I always see the disappointment - maybe because he is similar to his father. However does she understand the horrors of his past? I have never seen anything from her especially when it comes to Arnav. Does she understand Arnav!? No. She was the one who said, "Arnav bitwaa ko akele khaane ki aadat hai..." I would say "Aadat tab lagti hai jab aadat lagwai jaati hai..." Have they tried to do anything special for him ever!? No.


Now coming to the Gupta Ladies:


Garima and Buaji : Arnav has wronged them and their family so many times that they should hate him - however they are the one who shower him with love that is genuine, they are the ones who care for him that is real and that is what has touched Arnav to reveal his true inner self to them.


Change in Arnav : I added this yesterday in my analysis and I add it today again because that is what I noticed in the episode. Yesterday was continued today ;


1) Arnav sitting with the family and having tea - difference from RM - he is hardly down when tea is served with the family and strangely no one calls him also.


2) Arnav eating Gol Gappes - difference from RM - if someone had bought gol gapes at RM - they would have been like "chotte toh teekha khate hi nahin hai..." and they would not have asked Arnav also.


3) When has Arnav actually bought anything for RM!?


4) He is relaxed when he walks around the house - difference in RM - he walks like he owns the place but never is relaxed


5) He is standing there watering the plant when a guest arrives and greets them subtly - difference from RM - He does not care much when guests are there.


6) He naughtily jokes with Buaji - difference from RM - he is always in a pathetic mood that pisses him and people around him. (even though I thought it was BS but chalo I will leave that)

That is the change in him - that is the Arnav in him that is coming out from deep within and that is what even he sees because he knows about his life in RM and in GH both.

I will say he was alive in RM but he is living his life in GH!

Keeping it short today about what I liked :


1) Mami - this women keeps winning me over and over again. If one goes on the face value, one can get irritated. However time and again - Mami has been shown to have accepted her "khoon bhari tang" bahuriya -Payal. Be it the muh-dikhayi scene, be it during the fancy dress competition or be it today. Today as soon as she saw the family picture she realized that one of the most important person of the family was missing. Not said in words but her horror at not being able to see Payal was there. She could have been happy and rejoiced about it - and could have carefully ignored it -she did not - she realized Payal was missing and wondered why!? Mami may not accept it explicitly - but Payal has indeed become an important part of her family , she has been accepted as the Daughter - in -law and more importantly as her son's wife.


2) I would say - I am not much of a fan of Rabba ve's these days - but I did like what I saw. Arnav asking for eating the Gol gappa only when he hears Buaji ask Khushi to feed him. That is probably what Arnav would have done if there was no misunderstanding. That is the Arnav from ASR that is again surfacing out. The awkwardness and the confusion on both their faces very well evident. Till today it was only Anjali and Nani who had seen the Arnav Khushi equation but today - even if minutely the Gupta ladies and Babuji were a witness to their equation.


3) Arnav and Khushi's fight in the bedroom : How real Husband wife they are!? Seriously!? They actually fight like real couples do. It was such a nice and cute fight. Khushi knew that Arnav had gotten the gol gappas because he had hurt her with his words - and she said that aloud and as usual Arnav withdraws - like always. He tells her he does not need to apologize to her for anything and he has apologized to who he had to - Garima and Buaji. I have a feeling that whenever the reality dawns on him - he will first seek forgiveness from Garima and Buaji first - and that will be because he has wronged not one but both their daughters. Khushi by forcefully marrying her and most importantly using Payal as a bait. His first sorry will be to Garima and Buaji and then he will shift to Khushi and seek her repentance


4) Whenever Arnav waters his plants - he is alone. He does it because it provides him with peace and solace. Never have I seen him water the plants in front of anyone. However today he was watering the plants - and not only that one pot that Khushi got - but all the plants - with the Gupta ladies behind him. He will find his peace here - within the walls of Gupta household where every feeling is genuine and among these ladies who will provide him the comfort and the solace - when he will need it the most.


5) Arnav asking for the racket to wade off the mosquitoes - he is beginning to figure out how things work in the GH and he searches for the racket himself. The man who was giving a "what the" expression on seeing the racket the other night - today realizes he needs it and goes to ask it. He has begun understanding things now


6) The AC scene - adorable. However I personally felt it was more of Barun Sobti than Arnav Singh Raizada. However, we have seen he has a naughty side to him - infact that first show was in the GH on the new years night and today yet again we saw it when he playfully jokes with Buaji.


7) The Buaji bringing tea for Arnav - small thing - but when does anyone bring tea for Arnav at RM!? It is always HP who does the honors and here Buaji comes herself and gives him tea and he accepts it humbly. The comfort level between him and the family is rising.


I would not talk about Khushi's antics - because I get it what she wants to show Arnav. However my deep feeling says that this wedding will be the break out point of Arnav and he will burst out at her after it. Khushi's heartbreak seems very near to me now.


The last dialogue of Khushi ;


"Khali bartan hai awaaz toh karega hi"


It definitely means something. The english meaning says that those people who have little knowledge usually talk the most and make the greatest fuss.

Khushi said this to Arnav - so if I have to guess ; Arnav - little knowledge about what Khushi and Shyam's relationship is or was and he has created a fuss over it - spoiling everyone's life in and around him and his own. He has not only put Khushi but himself and Anjali in deep trouble.


Pointers :

1) Shyam has got the key - but where is he!? I so want him to get back into action. 2 days in a row and I have not seen him.

2) Loved how the problems of marriage in a middle class family was shown - the situation was something similar to the Raizadas and the Guptas but would have been better if there was an afterthought from Arnav over it.


Favorite Character :

All again. Arnav a bit tad too much but all were good. Especially liked Buaji.


Uff! So that is it! I write so much even when I do not plan on writing! 😲 😆

Cya all tomorrow.


Love :))





Anna, hugzz 🤗

nice thoughts and you elaborated on the various relations nicely.

Will just say I have explained the "Khaali bartan "dialogue... padh lo. 😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
#96
wow brilliant analysis by everyone...njoyed it...by the way doods how do u manage to catch these innuendos and interpret it so well..
i love the way everyone writes in this thread..u guys express the points very beautifully
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Posted: 13 years ago
#97

Originally posted by: doodleberry



Pam, Hugzz hun 🤗


Meri baat mani ki nehin, wait I think yeah. Loved the part of how dreams of a girl is all about and how Arnav will eat his words when he said - Tum inn cheezo ko bahut maanti ho naa???


Doods 🤗

Ya, I took your advice and the episode spoke to me...and you see the results... Thank you 😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
#98

Originally posted by: --Krish--

the epi was really good.. enjoyed it very much !!

loved your post sathya , doods and other's who have taken the pains to write their analysis of the epi..

one thing which i could not accept was ASR being flirty with khushi during the AC scene.. the golgappe scene went with the flow.. loved it.. but the AC scene i felt that somehow it didnt fit with the mood of their relationship now.. i enjoyed watching the scene though..



It didn't Kris. It was just TRP catcher. 😡
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Posted: 13 years ago
#99

Originally posted by: sbanik

Awesome as usual doods, pam, Anna..👏 Sathya, waiting for ur update,,😃


Thank you so much 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
Vi,soap critic,sheeth-Thanks for pointing out the meaning of payal's absence in the family picture .I missed it...

@Jria-it struck me that children tell the truth in an uncomplicated Way.when Arnav frowned at the truth then Khushi said " jeejaji aisi hi hain" so don't mind his frown just go on with the truth

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