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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: zephora

I just wanted to tell you guys that since morning i have been searching for your posts,i thought you have not given your analysis today but i am so happy i found it,it is 11 45 am now.you made my day.thank you...i am so eager to read it,i have not read your analysis but before that i wanted you guys to know that how imp is your anlaysis...
Watching the sbb/sbs segments pulls you down and decides for you whether u want to watch the episode or no but i watch it no matter what,make sure i dont miss a good scene...i am happy that i saw the most naughty Barun in yesterday's episode.



Thank You, Zephora ..

Sorry to have kept u waiting ..😳😊

Zep, Never go by what SBS/B shows.. it is more like a appetizer ..just bec the appetizer is not good does not mean the main course will be wrong too ..Take SBS with a pinch of salt ..😃




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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Cool_wonder

I agree with Smriti here..

Really Doodles ..you understand the story do well and moreover write it in such a brillient manner ...wowww👏..
You know na...the Open Bath Sequence which was almost irritating for me thanks to your analysis i could see it from a different angle 😳...you really write well doodles👏



Thanks Cool. Hugzz 🤗

dekha even the PH curtailed the scene of the jeep??? They did didn't they??? 😆 it was abruptly ended on Tuesday and then Khushi's bhashan on the low middle class lifestyle was added later and the confrontation between Khushi and ASR didn't fit in properly. So, dekha bath scene bhashan did work... ain't it??? 😆

But I want them to give Barun Sobti the much needed BREAK. 😡
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Posted: 13 years ago
Have less time today..bt had quick go thru various posts tday..sum of them I read and I thought I had to respond...You guys rock...to tanthya,doods,anna,pam...4 of them I read and brilliant yaar...👏👏👏👏... @tants I agree barun needs a brk and a haircut...I wont like a pony tail ASR...🤢.. and @Anna-loved how you compare ladies in RM and GH...sumhow this track is bring real arnav out...and we are loving it...then bring it on...wil respond in detail to doods and pam too ..till then take hugs frm me...🤗...
Have fun discussin ..Enjoy!
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: --Anna--

Hola people 🤗


Sathya, will wait for your update tomorrow morning! 😃


Coming to my analysis ; After watching the episode today I had really thought that I would not be writing anything today and that was because for some reason I myself cannot put into words what I felt about the episode. I know I liked it - but I cannot pin-point on exactly what. Today's episode again left me wanting for more and now I know why.


It is because of Arnav Singh Raizada. This track has made me see the difference between the Raizada ladies and the Gupta ladies and Arnav's living style in both the houses. There is no doubt about the fact that this man has two different personalities ' one an outer layer that is ruthless and egoistic while the other which is hidden deep deep down below which is waiting to burst out of him and will come out only when he receives that extra something ' called genuine love and care.


I will start off with the RM ladies and their relationships with Arnav :


Anjali : Arnav's life ' the reason he lives. After their horrible past, Anjali and Arnav have been together and each other's support and their lives depend on each other. Arnav however is the practical one and he keeps his feelings aside and lives his life - concentrating on work and his di simultaneously. However one would believe that after having Shyam in her life - Anjali would stop clinging to Arnav and would focus on Shyam - however that is not the case. She clings to Arnav, she seeks out to him and wants to believe that she understands her "chotte" the best. However time and again and especially with this track it is proved that no - she does not know him the way she thinks she does.

She loves him no doubt about that - however she manipulates him in her own way, she is concerned about him - but it seems superficial now and she does know him - but not that very well. Infact - Does she actually know who her "chotte" is and how badly is he haunted by the ghosts of his past!? No.


Nani : I have always believed - that from the two siblings it is Anjali who is Nani's favourite - maybe because she reminds her of her own daughter but when it comes to Arnav - I always see the disappointment - maybe because he is similar to his father. However does she understand the horrors of his past? I have never seen anything from her especially when it comes to Arnav. Does she understand Arnav!? No. She was the one who said, "Arnav bitwaa ko akele khaane ki aadat hai..." I would say "Aadat tab lagti hai jab aadat lagwai jaati hai..." Have they tried to do anything special for him ever!? No.


Now coming to the Gupta Ladies:


Garima and Buaji : Arnav has wronged them and their family so many times that they should hate him - however they are the one who shower him with love that is genuine, they are the ones who care for him that is real and that is what has touched Arnav to reveal his true inner self to them.


Change in Arnav : I added this yesterday in my analysis and I add it today again because that is what I noticed in the episode. Yesterday was continued today ;


1) Arnav sitting with the family and having tea - difference from RM - he is hardly down when tea is served with the family and strangely no one calls him also.


2) Arnav eating Gol Gappes - difference from RM - if someone had bought gol gapes at RM - they would have been like "chotte toh teekha khate hi nahin hai..." and they would not have asked Arnav also.


3) When has Arnav actually bought anything for RM!?


4) He is relaxed when he walks around the house - difference in RM - he walks like he owns the place but never is relaxed


5) He is standing there watering the plant when a guest arrives and greets them subtly - difference from RM - He does not care much when guests are there.


6) He naughtily jokes with Buaji - difference from RM - he is always in a pathetic mood that pisses him and people around him. (even though I thought it was BS but chalo I will leave that)

That is the change in him - that is the Arnav in him that is coming out from deep within and that is what even he sees because he knows about his life in RM and in GH both.

I will say he was alive in RM but he is living his life in GH!

Keeping it short today about what I liked :


1) Mami - this women keeps winning me over and over again. If one goes on the face value, one can get irritated. However time and again - Mami has been shown to have accepted her "khoon bhari tang" bahuriya -Payal. Be it the muh-dikhayi scene, be it during the fancy dress competition or be it today. Today as soon as she saw the family picture she realized that one of the most important person of the family was missing. Not said in words but her horror at not being able to see Payal was there. She could have been happy and rejoiced about it - and could have carefully ignored it -she did not - she realized Payal was missing and wondered why!? Mami may not accept it explicitly - but Payal has indeed become an important part of her family , she has been accepted as the Daughter - in -law and more importantly as her son's wife.


2) I would say - I am not much of a fan of Rabba ve's these days - but I did like what I saw. Arnav asking for eating the Gol gappa only when he hears Buaji ask Khushi to feed him. That is probably what Arnav would have done if there was no misunderstanding. That is the Arnav from ASR that is again surfacing out. The awkwardness and the confusion on both their faces very well evident. Till today it was only Anjali and Nani who had seen the Arnav Khushi equation but today - even if minutely the Gupta ladies and Babuji were a witness to their equation.


3) Arnav and Khushi's fight in the bedroom : How real Husband wife they are!? Seriously!? They actually fight like real couples do. It was such a nice and cute fight. Khushi knew that Arnav had gotten the gol gappas because he had hurt her with his words - and she said that aloud and as usual Arnav withdraws - like always. He tells her he does not need to apologize to her for anything and he has apologized to who he had to - Garima and Buaji. I have a feeling that whenever the reality dawns on him - he will first seek forgiveness from Garima and Buaji first - and that will be because he has wronged not one but both their daughters. Khushi by forcefully marrying her and most importantly using Payal as a bait. His first sorry will be to Garima and Buaji and then he will shift to Khushi and seek her repentance


4) Whenever Arnav waters his plants - he is alone. He does it because it provides him with peace and solace. Never have I seen him water the plants in front of anyone. However today he was watering the plants - and not only that one pot that Khushi got - but all the plants - with the Gupta ladies behind him. He will find his peace here - within the walls of Gupta household where every feeling is genuine and among these ladies who will provide him the comfort and the solace - when he will need it the most.


5) Arnav asking for the racket to wade off the mosquitoes - he is beginning to figure out how things work in the GH and he searches for the racket himself. The man who was giving a "what the" expression on seeing the racket the other night - today realizes he needs it and goes to ask it. He has begun understanding things now


6) The AC scene - adorable. However I personally felt it was more of Barun Sobti than Arnav Singh Raizada. However, we have seen he has a naughty side to him - infact that first show was in the GH on the new years night and today yet again we saw it when he playfully jokes with Buaji.


7) The Buaji bringing tea for Arnav - small thing - but when does anyone bring tea for Arnav at RM!? It is always HP who does the honors and here Buaji comes herself and gives him tea and he accepts it humbly. The comfort level between him and the family is rising.


I would not talk about Khushi's antics - because I get it what she wants to show Arnav. However my deep feeling says that this wedding will be the break out point of Arnav and he will burst out at her after it. Khushi's heartbreak seems very near to me now.


The last dialogue of Khushi ;


"Khali bartan hai awaaz toh karega hi"


It definitely means something. The english meaning says that those people who have little knowledge usually talk the most and make the greatest fuss.

Khushi said this to Arnav - so if I have to guess ; Arnav - little knowledge about what Khushi and Shyam's relationship is or was and he has created a fuss over it - spoiling everyone's life in and around him and his own. He has not only put Khushi but himself and Anjali in deep trouble.


Pointers :

1) Shyam has got the key - but where is he!? I so want him to get back into action. 2 days in a row and I have not seen him.

2) Loved how the problems of marriage in a middle class family was shown - the situation was something similar to the Raizadas and the Guptas but would have been better if there was an afterthought from Arnav over it.


Favorite Character :

All again. Arnav a bit tad too much but all were good. Especially liked Buaji.


Uff! So that is it! I write so much even when I do not plan on writing! 😲 😆

Cya all tomorrow.


Love :))






Anna,


Loved the comparison u brought in and the differentiation u did between Arnav @ RM & GH..

Yes, the man is changing without being aware of changing himself yet the moment someone points it out , he puts on his mask..That mask has to be taken away permanently..wonder who or what will initiate that event..
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Posted: 13 years ago


Lizzy, Lucky, Abavi : Loved your take on the episode 😃


Hola ladies 🤗
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Posted: 13 years ago
Sathya🤗

Fabulous post and today we really got the direct hint from CVs that the story is indeed going towards the war which you and Doods have been pointing for many days...I am proud to be reading Redux...for the first time I too caught on the Hathyar Paas Hai par Jung ke liye darr rahe ho if not for both yours and Doods post I wouldnt have caught that point...so me proud today😆
Apt descritption of Parth and Krishna👏..Arnav's hesitations and confusion is so much like Parth's

Doods: April 18th I remember you pointing out to the innuendos the broken mirror, the soap , key and sacred thread...and with those you had laid the future story... Amazing how you can decipher where the story is going...Hats off Doods!👏

The figures abt discrimination of female kids are just shocking😲...and I know many even well educated ones who think in those direction. I loved your explanation of "khali bartan"
Hathyar I thought it was meaning "kushi" ..wow you said it as "bauji" excellent!👏
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: zephora

I just wanted to tell you guys that since morning i have been searching for your posts,i thought you have not given your analysis today but i am so happy i found it,it is 11 45 am now.you made my day.thank you...i am so eager to read it,i have not read your analysis but before that i wanted you guys to know that how imp is your anlaysis...
Watching the sbb/sbs segments pulls you down and decides for you whether u want to watch the episode or no but i watch it no matter what,make sure i dont miss a good scene...i am happy that i saw the most naughty Barun in yesterday's episode.



Ze Thanks. 🤗

Just go to one of our profiles and then check if the Redux is posted or not and thanks for liking our analysis.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: riti4u

Have less time today..bt had quick go thru various posts tday..sum of them I read and I thought I had to respond...You guys rock...to tanthya,doods,anna,pam...4 of them I read and brilliant yaar...👏... @tants I agree barun needs a brk and a haircut...I wont like a pony tail ASR...🤢.. and @Anna-loved how you compare ladies in RM and GH...sumhow this track is bring real arnav out...and we are loving it...then bring it on...wil respond in detail to doods and pam too ..till then take hugs frm me...🤗...

Have fun discussin ..Enjoy!



Thank You, riti


Sweetheart, I would blast them to high heavens if they even consider ASR like that, rest easy..ASR will not be shown sporting a Pony tail..That was my angry sarcasm .. the fringes of Barun's hair has begun to curl and even the Gel is useless..He surely has to get his hair cut/trimmed and shaved..😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: doodleberry



Thanks Cool. Hugzz 🤗

dekha even the PH curtailed the scene of the jeep??? They did didn't they??? 😆 it was abruptly ended on Tuesday and then Khushi's bhashan on the low middle class lifestyle was added later and the confrontation between Khushi and ASR didn't fit in properly. So, dekha bath scene bhashan did work... ain't it??? 😆

But I want them to give Barun Sobti the much needed BREAK. 😡


😊... Yes Doodles he didn look good in last few episodes...Not ASRish way. I donno why they are not bothered for this look. Is he not the one bothered so much about perfection in everything. The CV's should not take chances with the main lead like this.

Wonderful post by you and Tants. Lot of likes ...

So the stage is setting up for the real storm. But just a query to you Doodhs... If and if ASR learns half truth about Shyam -Khushi engagement...will he burst out at Gupta's for hiding it and leave to RM...or is he going to go back to lash out Shyam...or or...again get misled by circumstances and only hurt Khushi.. ?? Do you have any insight to this? He cannot keep quiet after learning about the engagement...defnly. But can you predict his action after this towards Gupats...I mean learning half truth??
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Zuzana

Sathya🤗


Fabulous post and today we really got the direct hint from CVs that the story is indeed going towards the war which you and Doods have been pointing for many days...I am proud to be reading Redux...for the first time I too caught on the Hathyar Paas Hai par Jung ke liye darr rahe ho if not for both yours and Doods post I wouldnt have caught that point...so me proud today😆
Apt descritption of Parth and Krishna👏..Arnav's hesitations and confusion is so much like Parth's

Doods: April 18th I remember you pointing out to the innuendos the broken mirror, the soap , key and sacred thread...and with those you had laid the future story... Amazing how you can decipher where the story is going...Hats off Doods!👏

The figures abt discrimination of female kids are just shocking😲...and I know many even well educated ones who think in those direction. I loved your explanation of "khali bartan"
Hathyar I thought it was meaning "kushi" ..wow you said it as "bauji" excellent!👏



Zu 🤗


Thank You, Sweetheart ..

It is my belief most often substantiated that sooner or later Indian shows fall back on 4 classics to continue their show ..And most of the time it just turns out that way ..Y'day it was Mahabarata's turn ..😛


I know that Female discrimination query is directed at Doods but could not help but butt in...The ratio is skewed so much in china ..that in their villages..Young girls as young as 16 are kidnapped and forcibly kept in the Boys home as the wife ... and wen they go thru social route..The Boys have to shell out hefty dowry to get married to the girl ..The dowry ranges from 80,000 to 8 lakhs.. which in turns puts a heavy financial burden on the farmers [ who are the inhabitants of the villages] .. Alll this happened bec of China's one child policy !!
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