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Posted: 13 years ago
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Ayee dil e naadaan arzoo kya hai..
justazoo kya hai

[O innocent heart, what u wish for, what you desire for]

[Updated]
A wonderful episode...not much dislikes also. For me it was a tightly woven episode!
well my TDP dose is still left😆

👍🏼Things I liked👍🏼

1.
The ASR in Khushi's world. he is trying his best to adjust till he re-make the world to suit his needs⭐️
Loved his waiting for AC. Asking for whtvr he needs like towels etc
Loved his hottness😉😆

2
Buaji & Garima, their shy nature in front of multi-millionaire son-in-law👏

3
The "Muh dikhai" The love showered on ASR by the neighbouring ppl!
It was lovely. They came with a positive attitude and showered love.
What a great contrast to the "muh dikhaai" of Khushi at RM, where she was actually humilated!😔

4
The humilation ASR did to Khushi's family by buying an AC. He did it un-knowingly, but in a way it was a blow to their status!
In a way, he told them, okay, I have come here.. but I have my needs, in case u can't provide, I can afford!
The whole scenario was so ASR like. I loved it👏

5
at laaast, wow, I saw Khushi's monologue!
It was good to hear from her, what she actually wants and why she brought ASR here!
Lets see how CVs have plan ASR's stay
😍

6
The night scene😆
As soon as Arnav switched on the AC, I was like "now.. now.. light will go.. go...gone"🤣
I have faced this in real life, so I know, why "load-shedding" happens at times😆

7
Pre-cap
I loved how buaji was defending her son-in-law!! Even though, due to him, they were pointed fingers for causing disaster fore whole locality!!

Another stark difference between GH and RM!!⭐️

👎🏼Things I did not liked👎🏼

I felt still there is a amount of un-certainity from CVs side regarding the track!
Don't know why!!
CVs need to actually freeze their script and shoot accordingly!!

Note-
The song line I wrote for Khushi!
She needs to understand, what she actually wants, and what she actually desires!!
I know thats a difficult thng and that will need her "growing up" first!

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_BAauZpLGg[/YOUTUBE]

Edited by anjani-pagli - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Thanths.. amazing analysis as always.. 🤗

Anna.. thoroughly enjoyed your analysis.. !!

Truly today different personalities.. mind sets and worlds did collide with one another.. and it will take far more then a few days for them to begin understanding one another..I felt for Khushi today more then the wife or daughter I felt for the women who has always been forced to strive for a sense of belonging.. for love others were showered with so freely.. Yes the Guptas care for her yet the deeply rooted actuality that she is not their own has gradually shaped the individual we see before us today.. the girl who has perfected the art of deception where her feelings are concerned let the mask slip today even if it was only for a moment we were shown the gloominess the emptiness within her eyes.. and the helplessness with which she has buried the pain within her and pasted a smile upon her face.. a smile that conceals the wounds inflicted upon her very soul by the man she has unknowingly fell in love with..

ASR was amazing as well.. really quickly I must say K has good taste Love Sallu.. 😆 now back to the show.. as annoying as his behavior was today it simply emphasized his need to control and more importantly his fear of forming new relations.. because new relations means expectations emotions.. and a need to be dependent on another.. irrespective of how hard he tries to fight it his love for K is not deteriorating as he would like to believe but simply strengthening with time.. hence the need to put up barriers.. with anything that could give him more of an insight as to his wife.. I personally did not mind his need to buy the AC or have his toiletries sent over.. but it was the way he went about it that was questionable.. yet not so unlike ASR.. he has always been a man who first finds then fixes problems.. he must be taught that business cannot be applied to human relations even if he has treated his marriage as a deal.. it will slowly dawn on him that in reality his actions have an effect on those around him..

Now was it just me or did ASR comprehend his actions were the cause of Garima and Buaji's discomfort.. he was ready to throw the men out when they questioned as to the sturdiness of the building.. his eyes darted everywhere except for the women's faces.. there was a sense of guilt unfortunately it came far too late.. Just adored Garima ji and Bua ji.. they overlooked their embarrassment as long as their SIL was happy.. and even consoled K with a heavy heart..

As for K teaching Arnav a lesson on life.. I must say she needs one as well.. overlooking reality does not make it go away.. hence the tumult of emotions within her where her dear husband is concerned is far more then anger or a need to get even.. beneath her irritation lies the root of her problem Love.. she adores him even after what he has put her through.. which is obvious through her reactions.. she threw the towels off of the table yet was the one to pick them up as well.. hence when the time comes she will be upset and take her frustration out on him..but she will also be the one to pull everyone together once again.. Khushi was so cute today even after threatening to teach him a lesson she remembered he was allergic to the inscent and found another solution.. an aspect of concern she would rather not look into at the moment..!!

Also as wrong as his behavior was she should have never given her need to annoy more importance then her families self respect..!!

Specific things I enjoyed today...

Arnav's expressions especially during the interview were simply priceless.. the need to prove himself when they had the nerve to call him a 10th pass.. truly the irritation and the looks he gave to a beaming K as she gave his sayings a new meaning.. 😆😆 but more importantly the knowing glance they shared once as they were blessed to be together for eternity.. searching for a reaction beneath their facade.. in that moment their masks were off and we were finally given insight into K's mind the heart that had been brutally splintered.. once again they attempted to take different paths but could not help but take one final look.. they will always be bound together be it love or pain..!!



Edited by ...Binny... - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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1. I loved the Garima, Bua, and Arnav moment when AC is bought home. Garima and Bua kept khushi out of this and handled the situation, actually tried to understood from his point of view. Though they felt bad they dint show it to him, they let it go as what mattered to them was his happiness and him being comfortable, Very nice.
Arnav always does what he feels is right, so after living with them for some time, he will know where he was wrong and he will amend by it.

But Arnav not noticing Bua and Garima reactions when the AC was bought, he always catches on other's discomfort and reactions, reads their face. How could he miss this??
Isnt that a part of his characterization??

Toiletries nothing wrong in carrying them, everyone carries their own things. But AC part was insensitive. His intention wasnt to hurt them but they did get hurt. He has come a long way though.
Arnav has his learning to do. First act then realize will make him learn things.

2. Loved how the lady said saath janam ka rishta and bth looked at each other and kushi's smile dropped. She knew it was 6 months and her smile dropped , i liked how they both looked at each other and how they again turned back at each other. Both questioning each other if it is for 6 months or 7 births. Are we really destined to be with each other for 7 years??

Nice co incidence, 1 month after marraige, Akash gets gift to Payal and Ms. B feels J some feeling that things wud not go smooth in payash relation further, and here Arnav and Kushi are blessed for saath janam.

3. FB from Kushi, finally .
I will relate this to doods explanation on raisins and will wait how it unfolds.
I felt bad at the dialogue of Kushi when she said she is happy and he will always keep her happy.

Once the MU clears, her words of itna kush rakhenge ki saari duniya dekthi rehjayegi comes true, if not for the misunderstanding he would have kept her really happy and they are indeed made for each other. Blessing from elders that they will stay together for 7 births and her saying about he keeping her happy always was a good co incidence and gave a nice touch for the future.

4. Asli zindagi dialogue I would take this dialogie for Kushi and Arnav both. (Inspired by Anu's words)

Kushi to come out of her dreamland and see the real world. She needs to come out of her delusionsal world, and learn that everything and everyone in this world arent good, every issue cannot be solved by hiding pain or by faking smile or happiness, everything doesnt run as per dil. With time one needs to mature and learn, one cant brush of every instant by hiding pain rather they need to evolve and learn better, Things will not fix by themselves. Arnav will help her mature and give her strength to face the harsh world.
Probably she will understand how much of a self made man he is, he dint get things in silver platter, he and his sis were thrown out , she will know what makes this man when she learns his truth and past. How he has struggled to reach to a place where he is now, he has had his part of struggles to reach where he is now, i really hope this track will lead her to realize what makes this man, and his life has never been an easy one as well, she might get an insight of why he is like this now when she learns about him.

Arnav views everything as loss and gain, he has no faith in people's goodness , his past has made him not to trust people , has left a un attended scar in him about relationships, money, goodness , love, trust. He also needs to learn about Kushi, how she faces situations, how she fakes up smile to cover her pain.
Kushi will teach him the value of relationship's and sentiment's.

Both learning about asli zindagi through each other.

5. M not at all a Garima liker, but me liked Garima for the way she is handling things, found it genuine. Even Bua.

6. I found the first scene cute with Arnav asking Bua , buaji aap ho kya nd she saying nahi hum nahi. It was cute.

7. Arnav smiling at Kushi and Salman pic, i loved that smile.. He is knowing his girl slowly.

8. This track, might help Arnav also to know what is her life going to be after 6 months, how will she face the society . What all she will have to go through.

9. She throwing his towel and other stuff and messing things in her room in their room, was more like how she has messed up things in his life in her life in Anjali's life, and she will try to clear the mess as well.
Dint Click:

1. Kushi feeling bad that her family felt bad coz of Arnav's action. What was it that she did yesterday?? Her act also hurt her family difference is she did it with a touch of smile and cuteness .

2. Asli zindagi dialogue on Arnav where even she needs to learn about asli zindagi.

In initial episodes they did show that Arnav loved/respected Mami as she was the only one who supported him and sold her jewelery so that he could start a business ..He has obviously lived in the real world, he has lost, struggled, fought against all odds and made his family secure.
Kushi does need a reality check as well.

3. So angry at Arnav occupying room, getting AC and his toiletreies, hmm u did carry all ur chameli ka tel, and everything required. teaching him asli zindagi, remember none stopped u frm making dabba business though u embarrassed him at work, he dint stop u frm taking tuitions as well. U dnt act as per his wish always.
Kushi put up tacky posters, stars, girly bedspread, windchimes, washing clothes by the pool . She did all that, not to simply survive in her environment, but to irritate him.

And its not that only poor know how the real world works , poor or rich everyone has their own real things to tackle and live with, they have their own troubles and ways to make their living.
She is also in a way responsible for the embarrassment Bua and Garima are facing.
Kushi has her learning to do.

4. The Garmi part was exaggerated i felt. Others werent even sweating. 😕
Why force down such scenes?

Random thought's:

1. Nothing wrong in getting ones toileteries, i think everyone carries their own toileteries, soap, brush, towel. I think even Kushi carried those to RM, so i quiet dint get GH ppl expressions their. For AC i understand.

2. 1 AC on and load shed for whole colony, which part of the Delhi are they living?

3. Poor Vs Rich family moodhikaei.. Hmm why always make a contrast like this?? Reminded me of desi Vs videshi party hijack today.
How many poor families will not have mean people ?? Its all in one's environment and brought up . Not necessary that all rich people are mean.
Raizadas are modern, i havent seen them asking Kushi or Payal change their life style for them, they support their bahu's alot. Actually they support and respect everything that Kushi wants to persue. They have no restrictions their.

I personally thought this was glorified😳

4. 1 month of marriage in show = 2 months in real 😆 So for 6 months to complete we still have to wait 10 months😆

Hope:

CVs need to concentarte on the execution and way of story telling.
Some depth to Kushi's character would make me relate to her, right now i cant. I just assume her feelings and pain. (My POV)😳

I hope learning , growth, love , care will be on both sides as of now it is one sided.
Both are wrong and right due to circumstances , i again hope repentance will be from both sides and both learn from their mistakes and grow eventually.

Kushi also learning about Arnav, and falling for him after all this is a love story by both sides and not one sided love story.

And finally main left main soonga so bed pravesh🥳

Edit: Sathya loved ur post. Amazing😃 Looking forward to doods and pam post

I just loved loved the below said👏

The Arnavification of Khushi stays put as she does what Arnav always did during his tantrums..Throw things on the ground !!This one act proves how deeply she cares for him ..for we ape the person whom we love, respect and admire...we do not tend to follow everyone but ape the one closest to our heart and Arnav is closest to her heart !!

Khushi claims to hate him, claims to dislike him , decides to teach him an unforgettable lesson but she simply cant see him suffering..Knowing that Arnav is allergic to Mosquito coil, she has got another gadget that will keep the mosquitoes at bay ...There is consideration, there is compassion, there is care and there is Love beneath that anger, Khushi has changed but the core remains intact !! ..if only Arnav looked long enough, he would know that he has got a rare diamond as his wife and if she paused long enough..she would know that she has got a husband in a million who would happily give up his life to see one small smile hovering on her lips !! ...Misunderstanding, Misunderstandings which has cloaked them , making their life a never ending night ..when will it lift ..when will a ray of sunshine beam through ??



Anna beautiful post😃
Edited by Ankifan - 13 years ago
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The episode today again highlighted the chasm between Khushi & Arnav, even when khushi had faced the wrath of whole Raizada Clan & Arnav too on marriage, she hadnt done anything to hurt or respond to the situation, Think before leap & be considerate to others are her most important values, she has been bought up with them and again Arnav circumfrence extends only till his comfort or his di's comfort as has been previously Shown.

Today Looking Arnav sweating profusely I was instantly transfered to the day I got married to my husband & he had been residing in the western world and was used to AC & cars, yet my mother made a mannat post my marriage we would visit a temple at the hilltop with abt 100-130 steps, in April with the temp abt 40C we started the journey for most of us who were from india it didnt not take more than 15-20 mins & for my husband it was abt 30 mins & by the time He reached the hilltop, his T was completely soaked, since than he has told my parents that he is not used to these conditions and if we ever undertake such journeys it should be with little more consideration & till day my parents do respect his honest response, so what I wanted to highlight was wen the relation is new ppl are willing to adjust as shown by bua & garimaji with welcoming him in their abode & eager to please him but Arnav sould hv consulted them atleast, at outright display of authority is just not welcome.
Loved the Khushi's instant repling to his wat the & whatever.
She knows & respects the relation she has with Arnav, even though Arnav had himself told Khushi on marriage night that Outside the room we are a happily married couple but he applies this only infront of his family whereas Khushi is doing it at both the Places.
The heartfelt blessing for this couple tugs the facade of marriage they are showing to everyone.
& did Arnav felt a lil "J"seeing Salman with Khushi on the Poster.
@ tants Sperb as usual.!!!!!!!!
but these jus stole the show for me Applauds
👏👏
Khushi claims to hate him, claims to dislike him , decides to teach him an unforgettable lesson but she simply cant see him suffering..Knowing that Arnav is allergic to Mosquito coil, she has got another gadget that will keep the mosquitoes at bay ...There is consideration, there is compassion, there is care and there is Love beneath that anger, Khushi has changed but the core remains intact !! ..if only Arnav looked long enough, he would know that he has got a rare diamond as his wife and if she paused long enough..she would know that she has got a husband in a million who would happily give up his life to see one small smile hovering on her lips !! ...Misunderstanding, Misunderstandings which has cloaked them , making their life a never ending night ..when will it lift ..when will a ray of sunshine beam through ??👏👏👏

@ Julie Lovely so calm & so soothing you words.
@Sea nymph: enjoied it throughly
Edited by IPKKNDFAN29 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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really nice post, I'm soo glad that you've picked up on the contrasts and written abt them so beautifully 😊
And thanks for sharing your thoughts... i'd have never thought abt this myself...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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wonderful...cant wipe the smile off my face after today's episode...it dfnlty was a battle of 2 different worlds...but very beautifully explained by urself.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Amazing as usual..Sathya!! fabulous!!👏

hmm...i loved today's episode...it was quite perfect actually..every character was in perfect shape..
be it Arnav who though he put up with the uncomfortable gazing of the neighbors, Khushi who had a little fun but sobered up when the times came up, buaji and garima who was sad and worried, yet they gave in to his sake cz he would be more comfortable..

and i loved how Arnav behaved as he is supposed to..cz he is ASR..it would have been totally out of character had he been ok with everything..but no he actually did what he always did and fixed things his way..he didn't give much thought to the hurt feelings of his in-laws..nor what the impact of his actions..i don't exactly blame him cz a lifetime's habits r hard to pull off..he just didn't think what his actions would have reflected to them as..
and Khushi was helpless when he reacted the way he did..i loved Sanaya's acting today..Khushi's eyes held a world of helplessness trying to bond two alien worlds together..she was upset for what her husband did for he is her responsibility, she was sad for how it made her family helpless, she wasn't angry much, she was sad today, and reflective..

and when that moment came when buaji told her about how things must have been changed in his house too to make her comfortable the flashback of her wedding night..the way he threw her out came back to haunt and her eyes filled with tears..remembering the differences of their circumstances, wherein her family goes out of their way to accommodate his slightest whims, no one ever even asked her for her wishes..

the missing warmth, intensity, feelings r flooding back to the storyline..

and also the mooh dikane rasam was well done, not OTT as we had expected thanks to SBS..but just very subtle and well enacted..i loved how Barun showed how awkward ASR was with it all and wasn't exactly putting up with it though he stuck it out for the duration..
and i loved how Khushi played the perfect foil to him as a wife would..channeling the image of a perfect couple of marital bliss..
and then the moment when the make believe came crumbling down when the blessings of a togetherness of 7 life times were bestowed to them..the realization that let alone 7 life times, even this lifetime was also on a ticking clock..on leased out time she was living in his life..
and the neighbors were nice too..their small worlds, not used to the world Arnav has occupied, the slight misunderstandings..it was all just perfect..

it was the meeting of oil and water..they will co-exist if they r forced to..but they will never mesh together..never become one..that was what i felt today to be..

would Arnav and Khushi's love be strong enough to make this impossibility a reality and blend these 2 worlds together?

waiting for Dood's :-)
Edited by princessunara - 13 years ago
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loved it...the episode...asusual loved both of your analysis...i hope they don't drag the track too much..though
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tantya and doods you are just "tant-doodastic"... the power combo who are explaining the episodes in such detail..i am not sure want to analyze anything today after reading you both..but would mention the what i liked was tant's parting section, and how doods explained Arnav's candidness...really wonderful!!! each day we are finding at least 5% or more as doods puts it👏
Edited by Cheta - 13 years ago
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I think we are too overly critical of IPKKND on this forum...maybe we expect too much...maybe we expect something different... for all the bad there is there is also something good...lowering trps are disheartening enough for the makers... they also are professionals...they are more skilled at doing this... lets let them do their job...and that is why T , Doods, Anna, Momma and all😳... I look forward to your posts because there is positivity and encouragement
So, at least today we learnt more about ASR...he has an MBA...he could have got it from IIM, Oxford, Harvard, UCLA...does'nt matter...cvs implying he is smart...now he needs to start using his smarts and figure out Khushi's innocent...he is starting to feel it...so fingers crossed...
it was considerate of him and so unlike him to sit through his muh dikhayi...in any other case he would have blown a fuse especially where khushi is involved and stormed out as he so often does at his home...but he weathered it...
It was touching to see khushi saying that he will take care of her like none other for all the world to see...hiding her sadness under her sunny atittude even ASR dint take her seriously ...but then the next thing the lady says about them being together forever hurts her further and the mask slips...and ASR too reacts...they both want that but think it cannot happen because of their misunderstanding...that is why they come closer and move away...ASR's nafrat paas aane na de and dono ki mohabbat door jaane na de..
Cheers!

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