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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ Tant, Doodle,Pam , Anna, thank you guys.👏👏👏👏👏👏
as i say daily, ur analysis makes my watching IPKKND really worthy.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Sathya - wonderful analysis
Totally enjoyed this well balanced episode. The US version had the marriage elapse time as 3 months? What I liked most is the monologues of Khushi and her revealing her hurt behind the facade of smiles. The old lady's blessing really opened a Pandora's box of emotions in her. We need more such scenes for the audience to know she understands the frail situation her marriage is in.
@Doods and @Pam will wait for your post.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Anna--

Hola people 🤗

I did see many significance's in in today's episode however for the first time I could not relate to Arnav Singh Raizada and
if I cannot stand Khushi Kumari Gupta's over the top attitude then today I could not stand Arnav Singh Raizada.

I will just start off with the important things that I noticed in today's episode.

Arnav Khushi Equation I

"Ye hume itna khush rakhenge ki saari duniya dekhti reh jaayegi"

"Bhagwaan kare tum donon ki jodi sathon janam bani rahein"

The whole first scene was defined and completed by these two dialogues. The two important facets of married life - happiness and togetherness of seven lives - and somehow both are missing from Arnav and Khushi's married life. Happiness is something that touches them for a moment (Holi sequence) and then goes and Marriage - it is a sham of 6 months that comes time and again and till now they both know that it will not last forever.

The small reaction - the small smile on Arnav's face when he notices the salman khan posters was adorable - he has begun to relate to her - he has begun to see who she is - the acceptance however will take time.

Garima and Buaji - both scared to enter Arnav's room and ask him to come out - they know him and they are scared to approach him - however when they leave - he calls them out and goes out in a misunderstanding. ( God this man! Why does he never listen to the full thing!? - aadhi cheez sunta hai and then MU happens 🤪) I am guessing - that soon enough maybe the Gupta ladies will know something is wrong in ArHI marriage and that too because of Shyam and they will go to confess the truth - but will be scared of approaching him - just like Khushi is. However Arnav will seek them out and listen to them - and that is where he will realize his mistake and like Tanths put it - he will become the savior of the Gupta household. Like Buaji again called him - nand kishore and krishna - kanhayian - just like Lord Krishna was Arjun's rath *chalak* - Arnav will be the *chalak* of the Gupta household and will take the responsibility of the house on his shoulders.

Pardon me writers - but I believe even lower middle class people know what an MBA is! Chalo if for once the nani would have been confused I would have understood the logic - but the two aunties who did not seem very old - compared MBA to shashtra path!? Seriously!?

Then came the dialogues that I started this equation started with - the happiness and the seven lives of togetherness - both missing from their married life now. However, these blessings from the people will bind them together. Khushi said today that Arnav will always keep her happy - If only she knew that how much he would love to do that even now - if not for the misunderstanding. Now when this misunderstanding comes to an end - and they finally get together - they will live happily ever after.

Similarly for the blessing of the seven lives of togetherness - right now at this moment as soon as both of them heard it - Khushi was disappointed and Arnav was stunned. Khushi repeated it - wishing that her married life to Arnav was not a sham of 6 months - while Arnav looked taken aback at her reaction. They both want to spend 7 lives and more with each other - you can see it in their eyes - however - the fake hatred has put such a cloud of darkness over both of them that they are scared to see the light.

Arnav and the Gupta Ladies equation II

Okay - the most hated part of the episode today. I cannot support Arnav's actions today because I could not relate to them. He did wrong and I so totally felt like slapping him myself. 😡

I understand why Arnav called in for the toiletries - because people from his status and even middle class status - most of the times - carry their own toiletries. I do it and I am sure most of us do - because we cannot in any situation use these of any other. I am surprised he did not take them with him in the first place. So toiletries was not an issue for me at all.

But the AC!? Seriously!? I know he was feeling Hot - I could understand he was not used to it - but ordering AC and without even letting anyone know!? Without seeking permission!? Nope - did not go down well with me. True - what Khushi thought that he was doing it deliberately - was not true - he did it not to irritate her - but for his own comfort yet - not acceptable. However much someone is uncomfortable in a situation - we do not make the hosts feel low by doing something like this - and today more than Khushi - I felt so bad for Garima and buaji. For the first time I felt like smacking Arnav today. Garima and Buaji accepted it in good stride - however they were hurt and I could not see it. Arnav Singh Raizada - you disappointed me today.

I would not talk about Khushi's reaction (specifically because what Garima and Buaji felt yesterday was because of her - so today her feelings does not bother me much) but when she took up on Arnav's room - she did it deliberately to irritate him - however Arnav did not. He did it for his own comfort. But Khushi never let down any of Arnav's family members - neither in his eyes nor in hers. Arnav's this act made Garima and Buaji feel low and short - and even though it might have been true to his character - I fail to see its justification.

Coming to significances - I saw two :

1) The house stands strong

When the AC guys tell Arnav that would the house be able to stand the pressure of a split AC and buaji and Garima came out claiming that the house was strong enough to stand anything - I related that to how they stood strong and together when the Shyam truth came out and how in future they will stand strong when the reality of Khushi and Arnav marriage come out in the open. However in the later scene - Arnav will be a part of them. He will be standing with them and he will be their backbone. The first scene when Shyam truth came out Arnav was not there - but when this time the truth comes out Arnav will be in the ambit of the Gupta house - supporting them.

2) The towel scene

Khushi is irritated by Arnav - she thinks he is doing it deliberately to irritate her (which he is not) - but in her irritation she throws the towel and then she is the one who puts it back together. This is what has happened - Khushi chose to keep a secret not hers to keep and now all are suffering the consequence of that one mistake - Arnav's MU, their marriage - everything is based on this one mistake of Khushi - she scattered all of it and all the pieces of the puzzle are scattered here and there and only it has to be brought together. Khushi will bring it - like she puts the towels back together - she will put all the clues together unknowingly for Arnav to see and come closer to the truth and realize his mistake.

Arnav and Khushi equation III

Did I hear Arnav say 'mein left mein sounga!?' 😳When the episode aired - I thought that Khushi was going to sleep on the ground and Arnav on the bed - but when I heard this, I was like What the!??😆 Did Arnav just agree to sleep on the bed with Khushi because he heard about the rats!? That would be so cool! ;)) However now because of a certain Mr. Arnav Singh Raizada - I guess the sleep to whole of Khushi's area is likely to come. All I can hope is that he rectifies his mistake asap.

I would not talk about Khushis dialogue about teaching him a lesson - because if this is what was to happen in GH then we were so much better off at RM! He does something - she reacts - she does something - he reacts. I am so getting done with this tom and jerry game.


Anyways - did not think would write this much - but again lamba hogaya!😆 Hoping it made sense. Will have to wait for the star analysers and their take now for positivity. Me off to sleep 🥱

Love ;))



Hi Anna ,
Fab post as usual 😃

But i hate to disagree with you on one point i did not find Arnav fixing the AC and him bringing his toiletries wrong , but i agree he should have spoken to the gupta's first about the AC..
People from middle class & lower middle class can adjust without AC and fan but common he is a business tycoon & he is used to his luxuries. Cannot expect some one of his stature to start adjusting to a different environment quickly.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Loved the episode ... will get to know the symbolism when Tanthya and Doods put up their analysis ...
The Muh Dikhai was so different to the RM Muh Dikhai ... there ... the so called high society women were just so artificial ... while the women who came to GH gave blessings from their hearts ...
Loved the blessings that were given by the Tai ji ..." Saton Janam Tak Tumhara Rishta Bana Rahe"
I think they both were really affected by it knowing very well that in actuality they are together only for a short period of 6 months ...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hi sathya,
wow fantastic analysis sathya. U excellently explained each n every scene. I loved kkg hurt she is hurt when arnav without permission or inform of GH elders brought AC in GH. Its really an insult n hurt that she felt. But he is true in his character he never listen any1 n he does what he wants without knwing who hurting n what consequences other bear 4rm his deeds. I loved that para in which u described kkg antics 4 irritating arnav can hurt GH elders my dil ki baat u wrote na. When ll she realise this n stop her non serious behavior ?
Hi doods,
read ur yest n today analysis there r fabulous. But i v sum confusions da track which u decribed for 3 months what going to happen in sequencen do u tell me means
1 arnav knw about kkg n shayam engagement in his stay at GH.
2 after that what ll be his reaction n he n kkg gone to RM.
3 he is conecting dots . But what kkg n shayam ll doing that time shayam any other plans.
4 when ll 6 months contract reveal to GH.
5 when kkg ll knw da marriage reason ll she knw trust n marriage reason same time or it ll be separately .
6 she leave RM on trust issue n arnav ll nt eveny try to stop her.
7 why n how arnav going to find shayam planned 4 shashi babu n anjali accident. Will he feel hisself or shayam ll do sumthing which arnav take that he can do anything bad n he did sumthing very bad.
N asusual u both r " TANTDOODASTIC " miss u n ur analysis whenever i m nt here.
Edited by Supna9 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Anna,Tanths,Doodsie,Divya,Sul,Pam 🤗🤗🤗🤗
Lovely synopsis as always..loved it!!!👏👏👏👏👏😃

Tanths loved the difference you have sketched between the two couples' first month anniversary.

I totally agree with Doodsie, now that the current and future tracks are all nicely put into place the only thing the CVs need to look into is how they treat those tracks…coz ultimately if the tracks are not well treated or justified then the charm is lost.

Since u people analyzed/dissected the entire episode from top to bottom, I won't go much into any more analysis...Rather I would just point out what clicked for me and what didn't.

Now coming to yesterday's episode on the surface it looks very much like another filler episode, but I guess like always there were subtle messages and hints hidden below the surface…all we need to do is understand those hints/hidden messages..

I know these last few days most of the time I have been angry with Khushi for her OTT and illogical behavior…but yday's episode made my heart ache for her when the old lady blessed her and Arnav for eternity…poor girl looked so lost and hurt..her eyes showed all her heartache, pain and her shattered dreams…no wonder she has acted so irrationally all these days…anyone would do the same if put in her shoes…well everyone's way of treating hurt and pain is different…for me it is to go all quite until my mind cools off...and for Khushi it is her silly child like antics to hide her pain and angst…

Lolsss…yday I was really angry with Arnav…then again it's nothing new😆😆😆

Liked:

I loved the small smile that played on his lips when he saw his sauth's I mean Salmaan's poster…he looked amused and indulgent…so now he has started to understand Khushi a bit…good for him…he will need to use all these small hints while solving Shyam-Khushi mystery!!

Liked Arnav in Khushi world and how he was trying to cope up in the new environment!!

Buaji and Garima were so shy in front of him…but Arnav does have that quality to make people flustered!

Loved the Muh-dikhai rasam…the neighbors were so welcoming and friendly…They genuinely were happy to see Arnav and were interested to know more about Khushi bitiya's husband…unlike Raizada's so-called neighbors who were taunting Khushi all the time in her Muh-Dikhai!!!!

Oh Arnav is so straight forward and he is never one to mince his words...he was feeling hot so he got the AC…what's the big deal!!!!

At last we got Khushi's monologue…it was much needed to understand why did she bring him to GH..coz I was totally at loss in deciphering her actions!

Looks like Arnav-Khushi about to share a bed…..wow BED-PRAVESH 🥳🥳🥳

Now comes what I didn't like:

Ok so today Khushi felt bad coz of Arnav's action ..then what about yday when she involved her family in her trick!!

Ek AC chalane se poori Mohalle ki light chali gayi!!! Wasn't that a bit exaggerated?

Edited by RiyaDutta - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Praths : Thank you :))

I did not find anything wrong with him bringing toiletries - and if you have read the analysis - u would know that.😛

And for the AC thing - I agree Arnav is a business tycoon - but being a business tycoon does not mean he could not have waited for a day or two before taking such a major decision. Buaji and Garima said they were bringing the cooler - but so fast - what was the hurry!?

The way it was portrayed was wrong. Arnav should have asked Buaji and Garima first - and then taken a decision. Tell me if the guy u were married to would do something like this - would u have tolerated it!? I know I would have given him an earful there and then. Garima and buaji still managed it.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Well put Anna.

I liked that there were monologues by khushi and fb from her side. Finally her thoughts are being unveiled for us. Now to see her trying to understand Arnav rather then just be reactionary to his actions.

I miss the Khushi who on the day of her marriage had replied to Arnav's taunts"tumhe joh kuch chaihe tha woh to mil gaya ek amir aadmi se ek hi jhatke me shadi karke woh sab pa sako jiske aaj tak tum sapne dekhti thi" with "yeh toh hamare sawalon ka jawab nahin tha"

Today in her monologue she said "toh laad governor hamse badla lene ki koshish kar rahein hai " Why the amnesia on her understanding of Arnav after showing such a glimpse 2 months back?

I was hoping the GH track would help Khushi delve deeper into her emotions for Arnav but today's episode tells me that it is still a far cry.😕

@Tanthya loved your positive spin on the episode. Your explanation of the bubbly & Anjali sequence was superb.

@ Julie0001, Anki fan,sea.nymph ,pam enjoyed reading the analyses.

@Doods waiting for your write up to get my positive frame of mind back. Khushi's thinking out loud depicting her thought process really dampened my mood. I want Khushi to break free of her mental block or else Arnav's confusion on the real Khushi and his terrace perception of her will not get the impetus to intensify. Consequently we will be stuck in the same status quo till the end of IPL

Edited by sunshine99 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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loved the epi and great analysis
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: RiyaDutta

Res😳

Anna 🤗🤗

Lovely synopsis as always..loved it!!!😃


Hey Riya *hugs*

Thank you! :))

U updating your now!?


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