One thing I dont understand is that why Khushi is scared of the dhamki or arnav- agar divorce karna hai tho let him do that , then his truth will come out right 😕
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One thing I dont understand is that why Khushi is scared of the dhamki or arnav- agar divorce karna hai tho let him do that , then his truth will come out right 😕
Okay first point - Arnav is threatening Khushi with legal Documents - did he even forget for a second that her supposed lover - Shyam is a lawyer himself and based on just this, they can bring Arnav down in the eyes of entire RM? All Khushi has to do is to show the fake divorce docs to Shyam in front of everyone saying look at this and Shyam can play along - right ?
Or even easier one - she can just call Shyam and ask him what to do next instead of running like a headless chicken.
The very fact that he expects her to act on her own should make him question his thoughts and views of Khushi again. Again the very fact that she is protecting his treatment, hiding whatever he's done so far incl blackmail should make his Teez dimag work no?
I don't even want to get into the KKGSR - I think it was mentioned 5-6 times yesterday and took around 2- 3 mins of screentime, so the day the dialogues are not ready, we should be ready to hear this a 50 times maybe?
Where does Holi promo fit in here? Do the Writers think that females are dumb creatures, whose only purpose to love the male lead irrespective of how he treats her? She knows the fake romance - i know what people will say - see thats why the Bhang
, it brings out their inner feelings - what crap .. unless the MU is cleared, I want to see intense hatred.. (Does hate still mean the same that I think it does, or have they changed the meaning)
Agree with what you said - please who think I am bashing (which I'm not) , don't tell me to change channels or stop watching the show. I know what I am doing and I hope they realise it soon.
Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan
I have to agree TM! I think a lot of people on this forum confuse their Barun mania with ASR! I like Barun a lot too! Think he's hot, he's handsome etc etc... ALL that is true! I even used to really like the ASR charachter! He was a jerk most of the time, but I got it! Him being dark and brooding and "Non-romantic" was what interested me in him in the first place!
Lately though, he seemed to have said "Bye bye" to his famous brain and "Hello hi" to complete lack of Logic! I get he was having a knee jerk reaction to what he saw between Shyam and Khushi! To say he was shocked is an understatement! I actully enjoyed the episodes that followed that revelation of the Shyam-Khushi angle! I always KNEW it would happen at a time when ASR was finally ready to accept his feelings for Khushi! So I was NOT suprised when that happened! However... at least a week or two has elapsed since the initial shock! Therefore it's time for him to THINK!I know he dosent think when he is in an emmotional state, but now he should be out of it! He should USE his so called brains and logic, and think of the way Khushi has been acting! Does she ACT like someone who has something to hide? Who is guilty? Someone who is hiding her intentions towards a married man? Someone who wants a married man to leave his wife for HER??I think it's time to bring logic back and ENGAGE one's brain and think! ASR needs to start doing this ASAP! If he wasted as much time as he does convincing Khushi that he can break the PAYASH marraige into actually analyzing if his SNAKE jija was telling him the truth??... he would have figured out something was wrong a LONG time ago!So CV's... we liked the water fight! We can even tolerate ASR as "DON" and "Bluffmaster" combined! But PLEASE...lets bring back some BRAINS into this situation! It's HIGH time!
I completely agree with you. I absolutely and simply loved your post. Thank you so much for saying what you said. I am sorry to rant and vent in your post, but I have to get this out of my system to go back to being Loopy. So thanks for giving me the opportunity. Length alert. It is 3 miles long.
I wanted to make a post, but instead of making a separate post, since you have touched on the very topic I wanted to post, I wanted to reply here instead, as there seem to be like minded people in this post, albeit in a minority.
For all the gloaters out there who are gloating that ASR won and how intelligent he is and how great he is. I am sorry. ASR did not win. The only winner in this entire serial so far is Shyam and no one else. And he is winning and how. He is not there in much of the episodes. He doesn't do much villainy. He is not even a stalker like SRK in Darr. All his attempts fail. But the one time his brain clicked for one second realizing ASR doesn't know Kushi does not like Shyam, it was enough for him to cause such devastation in Kushi's life, be it her torture at hands of ASR, ASR so called pain, Raizada parivaar pain, Anjalis unending tears and pain for chotey getting married, GH pain. With one simple brain cell use, Shyam delivered a blow which will be thundering in the lives of everyone, in the present and into the far foreseeable feature. In every serial, it takes 10-12 villains scheming against one hapless heroine and the villains are always busy and get as much screen time as the lead actress crying. Look at the villains in the top 2 shows with the highest TRPs. The villains are there 20 minutes of the episode. Here Shyam is rarely seen, rarely plots, rarely succeeds, but in one pivotal moment he rendered ASR mute, deaf and dumb.
ASR's current actions are cruel, criminal and unpardonable.
Reason I say CVs killed his characterization is because, they showed, the ruthless ASR layers peeling off. His heart being unlocked. His defensive walls crumbling. His emotions bubbling to the top. He never even had a loving glance towards La, but he was flirting with Kushi. In the pretext of challenges, he was stealing pecks. He was doing things which even his own Di, never thought he would do. If a character was shown through such transformation, it cannot be lust. It has to be genuine warmth he feels towards Kushi. The warmth and love does not come easily. He tried to curb her. She rose to the challenge. He tried to kill his feelings. Kushi just by being Kushi did not let him succeed in suppressing his feeling. Her tears, evaporated from her cheeks but became a deluge in his heart breaking down the locks. Her getting up after each humiliation, showed him, she has strength enough for both of them. The ambulance episode, indicated, he was just not in head over heals in love with her, but she became a reason for Arnavs existence and ASRs demise, which even his Di and her tears couldn't do. He could never love any body and laughed at Anjali's definition of Love. Kushi turned him into a complete Arnav. The moment he realized that he wanted to tell her his feelings. That kind of love where the person you love existence makes a world of difference, doesn't happen in real or fictional live, if you do not trust your own feelings. You cannot trust your own feelings about another person, if you do not have innate trust in that someone. You cannot break down in the middle of the road, forget to breathe, brain number, heart stopped, if you do not know the other person also has same kind of love for you. He knew the effect he had on Kushi. He knew the effect Kushi had on him. Kushi has become his heartbeat and the reason his heart started beating and the human inside awoke and the passion inside started to rage.
For him to lose all that based on this sentence, is why I say CVs have killed his characterization. Hug is immaterial. All Kushi said was, "if your marriage holds no importance to you, why don't you leave your wife. Why don't you leave Anjali alone". Did she say, why don't you leave your wife and marry me. Did she say, I don't care if you are married. Did she say I don't hold any importance of your marriage? She said, "if you don't value your marriage". He has heard Kushi talk about sanctity of marriage so many times. ASR who is shown to have so much internalization and reflection of thoughts, is seen repeating those sentences over and over again. It never occurred to him, the person who changed him from ASR to Arnav, the person who successfully turned him into a better human that none of his family could, the person for whom his heart went dhak dhak, possibly could be trying to say something else. If the love you had for her evaporates so easily, was it love to ever begin with. If the trust you had on her as a human being to have changed you and to have you want her in the rest of your life disappear so fast, was there trust to begin with? If there was no trust and no love, why does it pain him (more as per some forum members) even now when she is hurting?
So it has to be real love. So now my question. CVs is trying to show a person who is really in love with a woman, who he also wants to hate because of what he thinks she might have done or will do. But, the character, so far has not a single time, tried to give her the benefit of doubt.
When Garima slapped, people had orga*ms at the look he gave Garima. When neighbors taunted Kushi, people wrote poetry on how he defended his wife's honor. Why hasn't ASR once asked himself, why does he feel this way about Kushi, whom he wants to destroy. Why hasn't ASR asked himself once, why does it hurt him to see Kushi hurt. What could be behind it. That is called a subconscious. So his subconscious is trying to tell him something. CVs broach that topic but to drag it on, they are making a mockery of both ASR and Kushi's characters. Yes as CVs, they want the show to run for years. But is that reason enough to kill the characterizations you so lovingly created? If she was guilty of being a low class woman who wants to steal another woman's husband, why does his heart still beat for her. Why does his heart still hurt for her. What does that say about ASR character.
He is letting his BIL, who taunted and told him on his face you can do what ever you want, but Anjali doesn't mean anything, still sleep with his sister. This is where CVs have failed. If they showed ASR doing something for Shyam where he is forced to leave town, maybe episodes would have been salvageable. As it is, in the first few months it was well established Shyam is never home for more than one or two hours in a week.. So it is a normal, day, week, month, if he were to disappear with occasional phone calls in between. But no, Shyam gets to go behind locked doors every night and could be emotionally torturing his wife. Does ASR know he is not. Anjali is not the type to tell anyone in the world of Shyam's deficiencies, even if she is smart enough to notice them. What kind of love is this for his sister.
Then, he still loves the women, who is having and affair with your BIL who is still sleeping with your sister.
Is ASR a sadist or a masochist? Why would he put his sister in danger when his BIL openly challenged him. Why would he love a woman who broke his heart, whom you are destroying day by day, who is an adulteress. What does that say about ASR?
In closing, I want to repeat, hats off to CVs for what they did with Shyam. Shyam has been winning against ASR making ASR act and do cruel things to Kushi which is hurting her immensely. Shyam killed ASR's love for Kushi or so it is made to seem. Shyam still gets to ogle Kushi. Touch her. Dream about Kushi while sleeping with his wife. Shyam gets to influence, brainwash Anjali behind closed doors. ASR is hurting his own Di by concealing the truth. Shyam will win even then because now CVs have only two way to make Anjali react when the truth comes out. She either kicks Shyam out, or they make her into a villain and will come into Shyam's words and brainwash. Shyam will not be kicked out. No villain is until the last episode when he magically transforms. So, Shyam will still inflict hurt for Anjali which in turn will hurt ASR which in urn will hurt Kushi which in turn will hurt all the families. The only person who will not be hurt even when the truth comes out is Shyam.
So, if your present is being tortures and you in turn are torturing others lives did you really win.
So, if your future, 6 months or 9 months, when truth comes out, there will be more torture, for hiding the truth, for realizing how you tortured your love, how you get tortured by seeing what your Di has to go through when the truth comes out, did you really win.
Out of all the characters, Shyam is the only winner. Because, CVs have closed the windows, doors, roads, paths for all other characters to ever win anything. Basically, the magic is dead. Any magic they may show in future is not the same. One could always piece together a broken vase, a broken mirror, a broken marriage, a broken heart. But they will have the scars permanently. When there are scars, the love is never pure, the innocence is never back and the romance is never soaring. Because even after all this, the characters are shown to show no scars of what happened, even in fictional world, it is as ASR say, utterly unbelievable.
Sorry, I do not know if I made sense and all, but I had to get this out. So thanks for making a post and giving me an avenue to let this out.
Rgds SudhaI feel what they wanted to show this week was Khushi trying to force Arnav to reveal the truth, Arnav playing unfair and makes her lose - this is perfect - but they messed up big time with the dialogues and half-baked plans and plot.
Biggest mess - I was expecting a hate track - I got a slapstick comedy between the leads instead. This also doesnt mean that I am expecting romance/ romantic moments here, no I want intense hatred, make it believable CVs.Okay first point - Arnav is threatening Khushi with legal Documents - did he even forget for a second that her supposed lover - Shyam is a lawyer himself and based on just this, they can bring Arnav down in the eyes of entire RM? All Khushi has to do is to show the fake divorce docs to Shyam in front of everyone saying look at this and Shyam can play along - right ?
Or even easier one - she can just call Shyam and ask him what to do next instead of running like a headless chicken.
The very fact that he expects her to act on her own should make him question his thoughts and views of Khushi again. Again the very fact that she is protecting his treatment, hiding whatever he's done so far incl blackmail should make his Teez dimag work no?
I don't even want to get into the KKGSR - I think it was mentioned 5-6 times yesterday and took around 2- 3 mins of screentime, so the day the dialogues are not ready, we should be ready to hear this a 50 times maybe?
Where does Holi promo fit in here? Do the Writers think that females are dumb creatures, whose only purpose to love the male lead irrespective of how he treats her? She knows the fake romance - i know what people will say - see thats why the Bhang
, it brings out their inner feelings - what crap .. unless the MU is cleared, I want to see intense hatred.. (Does hate still mean the same that I think it does, or have they changed the meaning)Agree with what you said - please who think I am bashing (which I'm not) , don't tell me to change channels or stop watching the show. I know what I am doing and I hope they realise it soon.
I never watched the show for the sake of the Rabba Ves. I didnt like when he manhandled her before, I don't like the way he treats her now.I still havent given up on the main storyline - that is what keeps me attracted to IPKKND. yes the journey now seems to be uncomfortable, but the day it crosses that and goes to unbearable, I will stop torturing myself.Nice Post Vibha!
I feel what they wanted to show this week was Khushi trying to force Arnav to reveal the truth, Arnav playing unfair and makes her lose - this is perfect - but they messed up big time with the dialogues and half-baked plans and plot.
Biggest mess - I was expecting a hate track - I got a slapstick comedy between the leads instead. This also doesnt mean that I am expecting romance/ romantic moments here, no I want intense hatred, make it believable CVs.Okay first point - Arnav is threatening Khushi with legal Documents - did he even forget for a second that her supposed lover - Shyam is a lawyer himself and based on just this, they can bring Arnav down in the eyes of entire RM? All Khushi has to do is to show the fake divorce docs to Shyam in front of everyone saying look at this and Shyam can play along - right ?
Or even easier one - she can just call Shyam and ask him what to do next instead of running like a headless chicken.
The very fact that he expects her to act on her own should make him question his thoughts and views of Khushi again. Again the very fact that she is protecting his treatment, hiding whatever he's done so far incl blackmail should make his Teez dimag work no?
I don't even want to get into the KKGSR - I think it was mentioned 5-6 times yesterday and took around 2- 3 mins of screentime, so the day the dialogues are not ready, we should be ready to hear this a 50 times maybe?
Where does Holi promo fit in here? Do the Writers think that females are dumb creatures, whose only purpose to love the male lead irrespective of how he treats her? She knows the fake romance - i know what people will say - see thats why the Bhang
, it brings out their inner feelings - what crap .. unless the MU is cleared, I want to see intense hatred.. (Does hate still mean the same that I think it does, or have they changed the meaning)Agree with what you said - please who think I am bashing (which I'm not) , don't tell me to change channels or stop watching the show. I know what I am doing and I hope they realise it soon.
I never watched the show for the sake of the Rabba Ves. I didnt like when he manhandled her before, I don't like the way he treats her now.I still havent given up on the main storyline - that is what keeps me attracted to IPKKND. yes the journey now seems to be uncomfortable, but the day it crosses that and goes to unbearable, I will stop torturing myself.Nice Post Vibha!
Originally posted by: fascination
aww dear i love to read your post, logic and sensible🤗
1) for me it was unfair they show a dumb woman on women's day, thank you cv's.
2) People make a post just to bash basher, first they have to learn what is bashing in the first place.
Most of the members were just trying to analyze the situation, and i find it interesting more than drooling over Arnav's pic lol
3) i don't understand why Arnav doesn't want to tell the true to Khushi and to his di.
Ok, she is pregnant but it just the begining of her pregnancy, her life is safe, but what will happen if she discovers Snake's real intention later ? it will be more dangerous for her anf for the baby.
4) Arnav, as i said in a post, he is weak, just a weak person can play with the weakness of other.
He is so concerned about Khushi's movement, that he forgets Snake the evil.
And please Khushi use your brain next time, all you were doing was "akash ji, akash ji" grrr
She is behaving like a kid nowadays...i tought that after all this, she will show some maturity, but no she is just yelling and yelling.
Originally posted by: evenjleena28
What I think is CV's have totally lost the plot here. They started out with something good and believable and ended up making it the most unbelievable thing ever. Today he won by cheating'.no one know he cheated and I doubt that khushi will find out eventually but that is on his conscience that he didn't play fair. To me redemption later doesn't cut it. If we go by this equation then we should love every villain there was ever made because they all are not aware of truth in some way isn't that right? Just because this dark grey character is sooo goodlooking we are willing to overlook the flaws???
I would be happy if khushi leaves that RM and never ever comes back, that won't happen but must admit Indian series will never ever move forward with new thinking or ideas. They are stuck in a rut and that's where they will be.
This is my opinion; I am not going to stop watching this show or change channel because it's my decision to make. If mood strikes I will stop watching it but until then this is from me.
At last !!!!! Thank god you post really made my day...thought times are such that after episode i curse myself for watching it but come 8 PM and i hope that the next episode will be better and sit and watch it..its bad that just because we want the plot to sensible and want it with consistent characterization people call us basher and so want us to stop watching and stop posting etc etc...change channels etc...Are we not allowed to post our annoyance...
I for one had been giving a loose rope to CVS for pretty long time right from days during the Nainital fiasco and juice in shoes thing when people were blaming Khushi characterization being spoilt i supported CVs saying we should give them time!!! and sometime later when I remember people blaming too much romance and then too much manhandling and people hated the comedy track...but all that while i kept on defending the CVs...Even by the end of Jan i remember how many felt the SBS Teri Meri was better than the actual ...even then i was blaming how it was difficult to please the viewers ...But now well i think i am getting a taste of my own medicine!! I have totally lost my patience and the way they are handling the so called hatred track is utterly senseless and the logic is missing...making me very frustrated after every episode!!!
Both the characterization...who were treat to watch earlier and their love story which was supposedly so different has lost its essence and the current story line absolutely makes no sense at all!!!
I now sincerely regret being addicted to it...I remember the difference of opinion i had with my fiend in office who felt this one is bad copy of an earlier serial by the same production house!!! I used to argue for hours together on how this is better and how that got too mushy so lost is essence...but then i think it at least retained the essence of character up to certain extent...her both the characters are butchered beyond recognition!!!
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