Do what i say not what I do? Why?

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Posted: 13 years ago
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What comes to mind after watching today's show is just one word, "Unfair". I have read many posts on how what ASR did was true to his character, there was one where we were also called "Bashers"…don't care much for that word and many about how if we don't like it just change the channel. Some were very interesting to read, some were downright ignorant and some were plain. I thought it would be a good idea to share why I believe in fairness and why today was not that.

ASR has been shown as a ruthless person, in my humble opinion ruthless people are very sharp, they are always one game ahead of their opponent and they know the game. The best part is their opponent knows that as well and the game starts. Here khushi has no clue why he is behaving this way. What she wants are answers, there is nothing wrong in that and for that she is doing what she thinks will get her answers. Yes she can tell her family that she was blackmailed in getting married but the next question family is going to ask her(not ASR ) is why was she blackmailed, she doesn't have answers for that and I believe this is what she wants ASR to tell her so that in turn she or him informs the family.

Many said that he is hurt and wants revenge and wants his sister's marriage to remain intact until the baby is born. Again what mystifies me is why in the world he thinks his sister will be strong after the baby is born???I am to guess two things may happen then…either he is thinking shyam will change and everything will be hunky dory? Or he will kick shyam out?? The first scenario is bit unbelievable because if he thinks that and wants his sister to remain with shyam then he should use the same logic and stay with khushi…new beginning perhaps?? And if it's the second scenario then after 6months his sister will be stronger because???She has the baby???I thought new mothers are more vulnerable after having a child and that's when they need husbands support and care???But more importantly to hide the truth from your sister for 6months and then tell her seems very cold and calculated to me.

Khushi should have just asked Akash about the divorce, but the reason she didn't ask in my opinion is because she thinks her and aakash are on the same page. She has no reason to think Arnav is lying because she unfortunately believes in goodness of people. She saw how Aakash waited to be married and then she was told that Aakash will do what he says….so she is thinking that aakash is aware .It is not correct I agree but from her POV it makes sense. ASR on the other hand is refusing to divulge anything at all to her. He saw shyam and khushi hugging, very incrementing and heart-breaking if he was in love. But what boggles me is he chose to confront the jija very good now meet the other woman and confront her too…so you don't know her that well???This is contradictory to me because if you are okay to fall for her that you must know her somewhat??this is not love at first sight story, he has known her for a while now. And even if you don't won't asking her make sense??Okay some said it's because he is scared to hear her answer????But that's the risk he has to take anyway after 6months….so after 6months he won't be scared???And if he thinks so low of her that she will have an affair with a married man, what is going to change in 6months???

What I think is CV's have totally lost the plot here. They started out with something good and believable and ended up making it the most unbelievable thing ever. Today he won by cheating….no one know he cheated and I doubt that khushi will find out eventually but that is on his conscience that he didn't play fair. To me redemption later doesn't cut it. If we go by this equation then we should love every villain there was ever made because they all are not aware of truth in some way isn't that right? Just because this dark grey character is sooo goodlooking we are willing to overlook the flaws???

I would be happy if khushi leaves that RM and never ever comes back, that won't happen but must admit Indian series will never ever move forward with new thinking or ideas. They are stuck in a rut and that's where they will be.

This is my opinion; I am not going to stop watching this show or change channel because it's my decision to make. If mood strikes I will stop watching it but until then this is from me.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Thanks to you as well😊
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Quoting from you post "Again what mystifies me is why in the world he thinks his sister will be strong after the baby is born???"

It's not because she will be stronger after baby, but pregnant women can't be stressed in their first semester of pregnancy, it can lead to miscarriage..First 4 months are always sensitive. And in Ajnali's case she already had hard time to get pregnant..So even if she comes to know after 6 months, it won't affect baby
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hey Vibha, wonderfully put.

Some thoughts too:

In the past months, we have come to know of ASR as a ruthless, even heartless person. He's often said that everything comes at a price and proved it. But I don't remember seeing this unscrupulous side before... maybe it was implied - that he'd do what it takes to win... the end justifies the means. Fine, he is meant to be a grey character... but how comfortable are we with what he is doing now?

I read several posts defending his actions and "explaining" why he did what he did... some of them were so pathetic I didn't even feel they deemed an explanation... People equate criticism of ASR's character with ASR/ BS bashing... for me, it's critiquing a character developed by the CV's. I'm disappointed with the inconsistencies and lack of continuity in both Khushi's and ASR's characters.

ASR:

1. Marrying in haste... Ok, we know his tez dimaag flies out of the window when emotions rule - we've seen that before

2. Mind games: What he did yesterday, in line with his character - he was called an Illusionist.. that's a romantic way of looking at it. Calling it unfair is plain speak. So he is the master strategist... we'll give him that. But I miss this strategy, cos' he's right now micro managing the situation, not looking at the big picture like a man of the world would do.

3. ASR's tez dimaag: He prides himself on it. Doesn't it occur to him that the man who cheated on his Di is easily capable of lying? Shouldn't he anyway get the dude investigated? Also, six months... this still doesn't make sense. Like you said "why would Anjali be stronger after the baby's born?"

If Anjali is yet to complete her first trimester, then the baby won't be born in 6 months. If she is, and the baby's born by then, Anjali (who borders on depressive) is more likely to suffer from post-natal depression, which is fairly common among new moms... has he factored this in? So he doesn't know about this, but he could've used his vast resources to find out?

Initially I thought the 6 months was to bid time and get rid of Shyam but from that conversation they had that night of the shaadi, it seems like he's given Shyam a second chance. That begs the question - why not give Khushi a second chance?!

4. Inhuman treatment of Khushi - doesn't sit well... yes he couldn't care less what happened to her earlier, but is his character so ruthless that he'd make her sleep outside? This jars with the moments where his concern's obvious (her choking on the necklace, choking on the kheer for e.g.)

Khushi:

1. Chirpiness: Yes, we know she is chirpy and super resilient. But even for someone so optimistic and positive, she breezed into and out of her "maternity" home like she'd forgotten how they'd chased her out yesterday.

2. Inherent trust of people: Yes, she trusts people... that's why she believes Shyam will change. Or that Arnav won't lie... but why then did she not trust Aakash even after confirming with him that he would also be with her Di?

She saw how the Raizadas are gradually accepting her (even before her own family is) despite the circumstances of their marriage. Why doesn't she trust that they will not let Aakash and Payal divorce so easily... especially when the PayAsh union has the blessings of all the elders?

I agree that the CV's started well, and what we see now is not patch on the creative brilliance of the first few months.

There is the argument that both characters are flawed. Yes they are... BUT... right now, the way things are stacked up... Khushi's flaws and errors in judgement are not half as bad as ASR's...

Again, I reiterate, this is the way the CV's have tried to portray him and her, and it's really tragic they have hacked his character for the sake of TRPs.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: go2sleep83

Quoting from you post "Again what mystifies me is why in the world he thinks his sister will be strong after the baby is born???"

It's not because she will be stronger after baby, but pregnant women can't be stressed in their first semester of pregnancy, it can lead to miscarriage..First 4 months are always sensitive. And in Ajnali's case she already had hard time to get pregnant..So even if she comes to know after 6 months, it won't affect baby

Thanks for your input but after six months she is going to be fine???now after 6months she will have a baby to look after and no husband...that is if he does tell her than isnt that assuming much here???and if he doesnt tell her then she is with a philandering man anyway...and he has to inform khushi's leaving...if she leaves and if she stays ...more abuse and rudeness for us to watch
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Love the sensible posts, they are so hard to find. My comments inline

Originally posted by: evenjleena28

What comes to mind after watching today's show is just one word, "Unfair". I have read many posts on how what ASR did was true to his character, there was one where we were also called "Bashers"'don't care much for that word and many about how if we don't like it just change the channel. Some were very interesting to read, some were downright ignorant and some were plain. I thought it would be a good idea to share why I believe in fairness and why today was not that.

ASR has been shown as a ruthless person, in my humble opinion ruthless people are very sharp, they are always one game ahead of their opponent and they know the game. The best part is their opponent knows that as well and the game starts. Here khushi has no clue why he is behaving this way. What she wants are answers, there is nothing wrong in that and for that she is doing what she thinks will get her answers. Yes she can tell her family that she was blackmailed in getting married but the next question family is going to ask her(not ASR ) is why was she blackmailed, she doesn't have answers for that and I believe this is what she wants ASR to tell her so that in turn she or him informs the family.

Many said that he is hurt and wants revenge and wants his sister's marriage to remain intact until the baby is born. Again what mystifies me is why in the world he thinks his sister will be strong after the baby is born???I am to guess two things may happen then'either he is thinking shyam will change and everything will be hunky dory? Or he will kick shyam out?? The first scenario is bit unbelievable because if he thinks that and wants his sister to remain with shyam then he should use the same logic and stay with khushi'new beginning perhaps?? And if it's the second scenario then after 6months his sister will be stronger because???She has the baby???I thought new mothers are more vulnerable after having a child and that's when they need husbands support and care???But more importantly to hide the truth from your sister for 6months and then tell her seems very cold and calculated to me.

Khushi should have just asked Akash about the divorce, but the reason she didn't ask in my opinion is because she thinks her and aakash are on the same page. She has no reason to think Arnav is lying because she unfortunately believes in goodness of people. She saw how Aakash waited to be married and then she was told that Aakash will do what he says'.so she is thinking that aakash is aware .It is not correct I agree but from her POV it makes sense. ASR on the other hand is refusing to divulge anything at all to her. He saw shyam and khushi hugging, very incrementing and heart-breaking if he was in love. But what boggles me is he chose to confront the jija very good now meet the other woman and confront her too'so you don't know her that well???This is contradictory to me because if you are okay to fall for her that you must know her somewhat??this is not love at first sight story, he has known her for a while now. And even if you don't won't asking her make sense??Okay some said it's because he is scared to hear her answer????But that's the risk he has to take anyway after 6months'.so after 6months he won't be scared???And if he thinks so low of her that she will have an affair with a married man, what is going to change in 6months???

For a minute here I thought you will answer all the questions that CVs won't but towards the end of the paragraph I realized you are as confused as i was :). The biggest question is why does ASR believe Shyam won't tell Khushi about the reason for the marriage, if they were having an affair? That will make Khushi know the reason right away. The fact that she is badgering ASR so much for the reason is proof enough that Shyam and Khushi hardly speak to each other.I actually want ASR character's supporters to answer this one. Where is his famous brain now? On a vacation?


What I think is CV's have totally lost the plot here. They started out with something good and believable and ended up making it the most unbelievable thing ever. Today he won by cheating'.no one know he cheated and I doubt that khushi will find out eventually but that is on his conscience that he didn't play fair. To me redemption later doesn't cut it. If we go by this equation then we should love every villain there was ever made because they all are not aware of truth in some way isn't that right? Just because this dark grey character is sooo goodlooking we are willing to overlook the flaws???

loved the above line. If every villain realized he was being bad , he wouldn't be bad any more. If you look from Shyam's point of view he is not doing anything bad either. The power to be fair and humane even in trying times is what makes a hero. Even if one is smoking hot and the best eye candy ever, that does not justify ill treatment towards another human being.

I would be happy if khushi leaves that RM and never ever comes back, that won't happen but must admit Indian series will never ever move forward with new thinking or ideas. They are stuck in a rut and that's where they will be.

This is one more thing that pisses me off, the "ooh..please no separation" crap. So it is OK for Kushi to be called names, called low class, blamed for things she did not do, be treated like a untouchable but she should still stick it up to ASR just coz he has a hot piece of a#$.Of course separation is direly necessary for redemption. Have these people never heard of the saying "Absence makes the heart grow fonder".


This is my opinion; I am not going to stop watching this show or change channel because it's my decision to make. If mood strikes I will stop watching it but until then this is from me.

I am not one of those who watch on the internet. I watch the serial at prime time so I am a TRP contributor.Luckily for me I own a DVR. So when the episode sucks I just record it and watch only the worthy part of it. That was just 3 minutes of my time yesterday.



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I really felt like u after seeing yesterdays episode...thats just unfair...😭.ASR is doing all this drama..just to win over kushi,just to make the point thats he is a great manipulator...But wat of Kushi..doesn't she have any emotions.feelingss..?and the most important matter is She don't deserve none of these treatments..from any of the other characters...The turmoil she went through all these times...was really unbearable...And if Mr Raizada...is that ruthless and sharp..like all the droolers( no offense )say...Y can't he put 2+2= 4..thats..just think about..kushi and shyam...Y would she marry a married man..?Is she that desperate to be rich???Why don't he think about that...?Totally UNFAIR👎🏼
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Originally posted by: sumanra

Love the sensible posts, they are so hard to find. My comments inline

Thanks Sumanra,
Your input is much appreciated and it is good to know that sensible people do respond to it as well😊Your point makes perfect sense. Khushi is not behaving like a person with guilty knowledge or someone who is having a clandestine affair with a married man...as a businessman who is so smart he should know that if she was really cheating or planning to elpoe with shyam she will be ignoring the issue and live nicely for 6months and then make her move not blabber on and on and make her own position weak ...this is what i am not able to digest that why are the CV's doing this??
I watch when i get time and yes i do record on tivo and watch it when i get chance...but lately i am thinking of finding another hobby...truly absurdity and abuse seems to run rampant in this show and the story line has gone down the drain for me atleast
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Originally posted by: deepterence

I really felt like u after seeing yesterdays episode...thats just unfair...😭.ASR is doing all this drama..just to win over kushi,just to make the point thats he is a great manipulator...But wat of Kushi..doesn't she have any emotions.feelingss..?and the most important matter is She don't deserve none of these treatments..from any of the other characters...The turmoil she went through all these times...was really unbearable...And if Mr Raizada...is that ruthless and sharp..like all the droolers( no offense )say...Y can't he put 2+2= 4..thats..just think about..kushi and shyam...Y would she marry a married man..?Is she that desperate to be rich???Why don't he think about that...?Totally UNFAIR👎🏼

Thanks Deepthi,
Exactly!!!! but the fact is she cant be money hungry if she is after shyam coz he is a pauper!!!! that dude lives on his wife's money how is he rich???this is what the mighty ASR or atleast the CV's needs to understand that logic may not be necessary but some resemblence would be nice...i just dont know anymore what is going on...to be honest i dont even care for the holi sequence now
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Great post.. I know we are in minority.. but this is what exactly I was feeling.. My strong opinion is, if ASR is really a smart business tycoon, he should have thought to find out the truth about Shyam-Khushi relationship.. when he is ready to give second chance to Shyam, why cant he talk with Khushi.. if he really loved her, he should have done it..

There is no answer for many of out questions.. because CVs messed up with everything.. they wanted to show something, but ended up with something else.. may be its because of SP pressure where they want bechaari naari OR lack of future strategy.. there is no continuity in story line.. if Khushi was going to come back RM, without getting answer for her questions, what was the need of last 2-3 episodes.. is it because they wanted us to show Water war or Asr is capable of winning any challenges or they wanted to show us ASR office once again?? someone enlighten me please..

@Sumanra - loved your comments too..
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