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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Neelum :- Regarding Kajal - I don't think she might be even involved in the murder of Dev's parents. If you see it is Indrani and Shakun who are the main culprits. I want to see if they redeem Kajal by making Kajal go on to Advay's team and giving him the information. But one thing is for certain - there is no way Advay can crack a 16 yr old case without an insider spilling out the exact story. He just has some clues but that is not enough to know the whole story. I guess after the affair thing breaks out Ranjit might be out and then Advay helps Kajal massi to recover and slowly Kajal might figure out that he is Dev and help him out.

Regarding the Dev - Advay confusion :- Dev is Chandni's childhood friend who was the main mahant's son. Then after the family was murdered Dev goes away from allahabad and now has returned as Advay. Advay remembers his childhood and everything because he was older but Chandni has not figured out that Advay is her Dev. So nope Chandni never calls Advay Dev - She remembers her childhood friend Dev in times of her difficulties but doesn't know that Dev is Advay.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#32
I guess shakun-ranjit affair is good twist,advay will obviously use this info.to break the family or blackmail shakun.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ghissapitta


Oh my God. No it does NOT 'sort of give him rights over her'! No man has 'rights' over a woman, period. Certainely none which dictate he can s**t-shame her. A bit disappointing you feel this way seeing as you're a girl too :|

I believe them to be in a relationship and you don't cheat your partner. It's as simple as that and that's what I got from advay. He was angry because they had a thing going on. it's alright I am a human first,a girl later and I say what I feel.

Ever tried thinking from her POV? To us yeah she probably seems 'dumb' not understanding what Advay is implying and baiting him, but all she set out to do was gather proof against him. Bas. Is she attracted to him? Sure. But she loves her mother and all she's focused on right now is putting a stop to this man who seems hell bent on sabotaging her rishta - a rishta her mother CLEARLY wants to happen. On the side, she takes PP along as a way to thwart Advay's attempts at haq-jamaing that 'tumhari shaadi sirf mujhse hi hogi, Chandni'. So to me, what she did made perfect sense.

That is the point. I am trying my best to understand chandhni and I am unable to do it. she loves her family and Dev. I understand. she is marrying pp I understand. she doesn't trust advay and hence her dialogue that u have no right,I went out my fiance I understand.

However, she was abducted an year ago and seemed to be shown scared of going out and scared of strangers (at start when she met advay first time) then how come she is so comfortable with pp? advay has invaded her personal space so many times why didn't she slap him or told her mother? he drugged her sisters and she didn't tell her mom. she let advay carry her, she let him do all those picture poses with her and then she says you have no haq? so I am getting confused with this character. I want to see more character development for chandhni. She is playing games with pp and advay with no idea what they are actually thinking. it's just too weird especially since she is a victim and was shown so sensitive in beginning to such things. Also what did chandhni thought pp rill think when she randomly goes into a house with him and then comes back. did she thought pp knows about advay? I just lost the plot there.

I like shivani's acting and I just hope writers connect the scenes.

Now why the hell would she answer his questions, and what else is she to make of what he said? PP has been sweet to her, he hasn't misbehaved with her yet. Usse sapna ayega kya that he's ek number ka leechrda?

Itna bhi bekhabhar nahi hona chahiya ka pata hi na chala ka hud ka saath kya ho raha hai. so actually what did chandhni thought what pp meant?or has she ever even given him a thought? she is so involved in her own world that she has no bloody idea that what her fiance is like and she isn't even bothering to try. no wonder advay is so confident.

Don't think you can blanket 'societal norms' like this, it varies. As she belongs to a traditional family she most likely believes in martial relations after marriage. So if anything in all this, it's the otherwise smart Advay whole looks dumb af to think a tranditional girl like Chandni would sleep with her fiance before marriage.

So she is traditional in your POV. A traditional family won't send girl out alone with her fiance so close to wedding,someone would act as chaperone. I won't judge her if she have any genuine emotions for pp and wants to be with him. That's her personal matter but I would just like to know her reasons. That's it. I am just trying so hard to understand why is she doing all these random things.



Edited by Neelum.drashti - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ghissapitta


Oh my God. No it does NOT 'sort of give him rights over her'! No man has 'rights' over a woman, period. Certainely none which dictate he can s**t-shame her. A bit disappointing you feel this way seeing as you're a girl too :|


Ever tried thinking from her POV? To us yeah she probably seems 'dumb' not understanding what Advay is implying and baiting him, but all she set out to do was gather proof against him. Bas. Is she attracted to him? Sure. But she loves her mother and all she's focused on right now is putting a stop to this man who seems hell bent on sabotaging her rishta - a rishta her mother CLEARLY wants to happen. On the side, she takes PP along as a way to thwart Advay's attempts at haq-jamaing that 'tumhari shaadi sirf mujhse hi hogi, Chandni'. So to me, what she did made perfect sense.

Now why the hell would she answer his questions, and what else is she to make of what he said? PP has been sweet to her, he hasn't misbehaved with her yet. Usse sapna ayega kya that he's ek number ka leechrda?

Don't think you can blanket 'societal norms' like this, it varies. As she belongs to a traditional family she most likely believes in martial relations after marriage. So if anything in all this, it's the otherwise smart Advay whole looks dumb af to think a tranditional girl like Chandni would sleep with her fiance before marriage.



I think when Neelam said Advay may have rights over Chandini, I believe she implied that he earned a sense of liberty to question her after all that attraction built up between them in the last two weeks.


And in my honest opinion, I don't think Advay s**t shamed her. Agreed, he was jealous. He got angry. He wanted to know where she had been, for the reasons explained above. He gave her a chance, wanted to get her story out but all her answers pointed to what he was made to believe. And if you pay close attention to the dialogues most part of his dialogues were how Chandini could admit it so openly. There it was not Advay but Dev who was shocked that traditional girl that he knew had changed so much.

Now coming to Chandini, she totally misunderstood Advay's questions and I am glad she didnt feel the need to answer any of them just like the way Advay never did. She is simply acting upon what she heard and what she had seen of him so far. Likewise, Advay is acting upon what he heard and what he had seen so far.

I will not blame either of them. I will only blame the haalat that is churning up their brains and making it impossible for them to reach a common ground...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ghissapitta


Oh. And I think you seem to be under the wrong impression that Chandni implied in any way/said she's slept with PP. She NEVER said this. They both were talking about two different things and Advay jumped to his own conslusion after talking to PP earlier, and now indirectly questioning Chandni. He never explicitly asked her.


He asked her what we're you doing out with pp. what else can he say?did you had sex with him? star plus nuns will have heart attack at such a direct question.

When I am discussing a character my focus is on that character. Right now I am trying to understand chandhni that what the he'll is going on in her brain. Advay made sense to me because he says what he think. chandhni''s individual scenes are good because actress is good. yet if you combine all of them then it's bit different story.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Regarding Shakun and Ranjit affair twist, I didnt find anything disgusting because such affairs are very much happening in the society.
And I think one thing we all need to remind ourselves is, there are no flawless human beings on this earth. Especially the ML and FL characterization will be very much flawed, they are going to have their own weaknesses and shortcomings. What we should be focusing on is their journey to overcome these and how they rise above these halaat-driven situations.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Neelum.drashti



I believe them to be in a relationship and you don't cheat your partner. It's as simple as that and that's what I got from advay. He was angry because they had a thing going on. it's alright I am a human first,a girl later and I say what I feel.


That is the point. I am trying my best to understand chandhni and I am unable to do it. she loves her family and Dev. I understand. she is marrying pp I understand. she doesn't trust advay and hence her dialogue that u have no right,I went out my fiance I understand.

However, she was abducted an year ago and seemed to be shown scared of going out and scared of strangers (at start when she met advay first time) then how come she is so comfortable with pp? advay has invaded her personal space so many times why didn't she slap him or told her mother? he drugged her sisters and she didn't tell her mom. she let advay carry her, she let him do all those picture poses with her and then she says you have no haq? so I am getting confused with this character. I want to see more character development for chandhni. She is playing games with pp and advay with no idea what they are actually thinking. it's just too weird especially since she is a victim and was shown so sensitive in beginning to such things. Also what did chandhni thought pp rill think when she randomly goes into a house with him and then comes back. did she thought pp knows about advay? I just lost the plot there.

I like shivani's acting and I just hope writers connect the scenes.

Itna bhi bekhabhar nahi hona chahiya ka pata hi na chala ka hud ka saath kya ho raha hai. so actually what did chandhni thought what pp meant?or has she ever even given him a thought? she is so involved in her own world that she has no bloody idea that what her fiance is like and she isn't even bothering to try. no wonder advay is so confident.

So she is traditional in your POV. A traditional family won't send girl out alone with her fiance so close to wedding,someone would act as chaperone. I won't judge her if she have any genuine emotions for pp and wants to be with him. That's her personal matter but I would just like to know her reasons. That's it. I am just trying so hard to understand why is she doing all these random things.


Heck I myself, up until just a couple of episodes ago, had trouble connecting with Chandni's character. I do love and root for her but I couldn't connect to her because a lot of what she did/how she reacted was questionable for me until I really thought about her circumstances and what all she's got on her plate atm.

You believe Chandni-Advay to be in a relationship or Chandni-PP? 😕 Hope not the former 'cause that's just not true lol.

I too want to see more character development of Chandni, so all the points you mentioned regarding that I agree with. About her being sensitive and scared - by nature she's not like that (we've seen that even in her flashbacks from childhood), and it'd be unrealistic for her to be shown that way all the time IMO. Who knows, maybe a part of her in addition to her attraction to him, means she has started feeling more comfortable around Advay and not thinking of him as a 'threat'? Idk lol.

About your last point, and as I mentioned earlier, I think she took PP with her as a way to thwart Advay and his attempts of haq-jamaing over her, as he mentions quite often how only HE will end up marrying her. That's just what I think. And as for tradition - I think there are varying degrees of how 'traditional' one can be. Not EVERYONE who is traditional would forbid a woman from going out with her fiance 😕 Anyways I don't really have much else to add, I agree with some of your points, rest I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Neelum.drashti


He asked her what we're you doing out with pp. what else can he say?did you had sex with him? star plus nuns will have heart attack at such a direct question.

When I am discussing a character my focus is on that character. Right now I am trying to understand chandhni that what the he'll is going on in her brain. Advay made sense to me because he says what he think. chandhni''s individual scenes are good because actress is good. yet if you combine all of them then it's bit different story.



Sorry to butt in...

Forget about TRP aunties and SP Nuns, thats the most inappropriate question any man or woman would ever ask. I am glad humara UK-return hero knows his manners and didnt throw it on her face face like that...Had he asked that, I would have never approved Chandini ever falling in love with him.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: PSharada

@Neelum :- Regarding Kajal - I don't think she might be even involved in the murder of Dev's parents. If you see it is Indrani and Shakun who are the main culprits. I want to see if they redeem Kajal by making Kajal go on to Advay's team and giving him the information. But one thing is for certain - there is no way Advay can crack a 16 yr old case without an insider spilling out the exact story. He just has some clues but that is not enough to know the whole story. I guess after the affair thing breaks out Ranjit might be out and then Advay helps Kajal massi to recover and slowly Kajal might figure out that he is Dev and help him out.

Regarding the Dev - Advay confusion :- Dev is Chandni's childhood friend who was the main mahant's son. Then after the family was murdered Dev goes away from allahabad and now has returned as Advay. Advay remembers his childhood and everything because he was older but Chandni has not figured out that Advay is her Dev. So nope Chandni never calls Advay Dev - She remembers her childhood friend Dev in times of her difficulties but doesn't know that Dev is Advay.



About mruder thingy, kajal was involved in recent murder of that witness. It's hard for me to forgive anyone related to a murder but yes she is less evil as compared to other two. If she helps advay, I will try to give her maafi wala forgiveness 😆

About advay-Dev, I am just confused that whom chandhni actually love. we know they are one and same person but she doesn't so I am confused that why did she called out for advay rather than Dev. is advay replacing Dev in her heart? did she love Dev as a friend and now she loves advay as a lover?


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Lovely analysis...and Advay is what he is today due to Vashitht family so he will always see the bad in good about the family and to larger extent it is true barring the daughters

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