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Posted: 6 years ago
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So this is clear that everybody doing business, actors and makers. Only fans are fool to get attached to the characters. If numbers are not there then kill couple and again try to do business. Great, so many things to learn for me.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: yvon

This post will come in bits and pieces as I put my thoughts down in words that I can understand and for those who want to read it. So pls bear with me.

What got the fans and most of us worked up is that the makers thought Shivaka wasn't working. 😲 . This was a jaw dropping moment for me. Even with the most hair brain story arcs the cat lady came up with before redux. I always knew they would be there to save the crap they were dishing out. And they were quite a few.

So with the producer coming out saying Shivika wasn't working. Surbhi refusing to play a pregnant mother and that too for 2 weeks . This got most of us emotional, angry, hurt and so on.

I agree Surbhi s video was heartbreaking to watch. Still hurts thinking about it.

And then all of us know what went on at the other tag. When the fans were fighting the ph were counter acting with releasing those videos.
Nakuul I felt should have released his good bye message before all the videos came out. It would have made an impact on me. I did not feel a thing reading it.

We all agree Ishqbaaz was always NMs swan song. And for the makers to take him on for season 2/leap. (Whatever they are calling it) was the right thing to do.

Now if Surbhi was given a chance to stay back, would she have got as much of the hate as NMs getting now.

To conclude I thank god the Ph didn't come up with a segment interviewing Sc asking her questions
Did they chuck her out or did she leave on her own.

They did that with the actor from their old show. That was one embarrassing and pathetic interview.

There might be more to come. But whatever is written is my opinion and I'm sticking to it

Ps: Now this makes me sad to write this. What ever s*%# they are churning out now. I wish they would end it. I cannot connect with any of the characters even Nm and Sc.

PPs. I will Watch Ishqbaaz. Not because of Nm or whoever they bring in . But if the story is not up to par its curtains Ishqbaaz for me

Whoa! Cannot believe I wrote this much



@bold...thats what made me angry too. In all that was ever shown in IB, the only thing that ever worked is Shivika. Even when the script was mediocre, NM-SC did their very best to make it believable.

@bold,italics...And another big fat lie that Gul told is that SC didn't agree to play mom and hence we took decision of leap.
Whereas SC clearly mentioned that the mom role was only 2 weeks and then the leap was slated to happen.

I wish Gul had the guts to tell the truth ! but when did she ever speak truth ? She twists the facts and truths to suit it to the situation...

When DBO first happened, lot of fans questioned about new show but then she said that as though show started as Obros, Shivika is what fans liked and that they couldn't concentrate on 2 brothers and hence starting new show...
DBO was to be Om and Ru's stories...but Rumya never happened and Neha was not even given any role...
Then the merger happened and again she said fans wanted Obros to be together and that Shivika alone or OmRU alone were not working and hence merger is needed.😕

Gul and Co always say that IB is the super six show ! But when it came to put the blame on low TRPs, Gul said, its Shivika not working ! 😡 When it came to promotions, IVs and what not, IB is always 6 leads show but to put entire blame on Shivika and saying that we are taking a leap for freshness was crap !

I wish Gul had guts to say that as creative team , we are unable to tell the viewers the story of Shivika that is captivating ! But I know she would never ever accept that...

@bold and blue...thanks for that question ! I think not...she might have got hate, but not nearly as much as what NM is getting now...

In all these things, fans are simply targeting NM with bashing and mocking comments. Which I think is not correct.

Thanks for sharing your views !


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Posted: 6 years ago
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These things happens. Leap happens all the time. Story changes. Relationship between actors and production house changes. Even relations between actors changes. We will all miss shivika for sure, however to think that ishqbaaz will not survive without shivika is too premature to say. The leap has not even happened yet. We do not know what this shivaansh character is going to be and who will NM be paired with.


Qubool Hai maintained trps for 4 years even after leap generations and Surbhi Jyoti was paired with another co actors to play the leap. First as Zoya with KSG and so on and so on. Despite KSG sudden exit and generation leap and changed of actors it went on for quite some time. So, I'd say the viewers who don't like the new equations and dynamics of the new cast will not tune in. But, maybe there are also new people who will be interested with the new cast.

The production house is making a show that needs to appreciate the beauty between arts and commercial values. Sometimes, they have to take it back from the viewers for the sake of the continuation of the show. If they all want it to be only about arts and beauty. I guess everybody wants that, but then they also have to survive and make it work in the television industry.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: nuomi.riceball

These things happens. Leap happens all the time. Story changes. Relationship between actors and production house changes. Even relations between actors changes. We will all miss shivika for sure, however to think that ishqbaaz will not survive without shivika is too premature to say. The leap has not even happened yet. We do not know what this shivaansh character is going to be and who will NM be paired with.


Qubool Hai maintained trps for 4 years even after leap generations and Surbhi Jyoti was paired with another co actors to play the leap. First as Zoya with KSG and so on and so on. Despite KSG sudden exit and generation leap and changed of actors it went on for quite some time. So, I'd say the viewers who don't like the new equations and dynamics of the new cast will not tune in. But, maybe there are also new people who will be interested with the new cast.

The production house is making a show that needs to appreciate the beauty between arts and commercial values. Sometimes, they have to take it back from the viewers for the sake of the continuation of the show. If they all want it to be only about arts and beauty. I guess everybody wants that, but then they also have to survive and make it work in the television industry.


Ok, agree but then why the producer is doing dirty politics and trying to put all blame on FL, and talking about logical ending when AU was supposed to return to RU- without that no logic. They can not think that fans are stupid.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Risha--

Don't be sad, love - this hate was inevitable. Would just recommend that you tune it all out. I remember something similar happened during IPK ending, too. In fact, any show that ends badly ultimately goes through the leads' fans fighting. It IS ridiculous, though, because you don't quit your day job just because your coworker is leaving/was fired - that's just not practical.


I read NM's post and it seemed more of a homage to his own journey as SSO instead of anything about the show as a whole. Which is fine. He's only bidding adieu to the character, afterall. I do understand the fans' sentiments because ShivIka were hardly mentioned but I think it was just him looking back on his own journey.


In all honesty, I don't think NM or SC care about the hate, though they do appreciate the love. Suggest you do the same <3 We can only wish for the best for both our beautiful leads and hope they achieve greater heights. Might be a bit biased but after the way she was treated, I hope SC becomes a star in her own right.


Thanks Risha...for your wonderful words ! Appreciate that !😛

I tried ignoring the hate and I know this is not the first time that either NM or SC are at receiving end of the hate...but what made me sad was these are same fans who have stood for Shivika through out their journey. And now blaming NM saying that he is taking credit for the entire success of the show ! How and when did he do that ? NM has always appreciated and promoted Shivika throughout !

@bold...exactly...that was him reminiscing his journey as Shivaay that was started more than 2 years ago...but fans have taken it completely out of context and bashed him...

SC is tremendously talented.. and I do wish her all the best for what ever she takes up !
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Posted: 6 years ago
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I think NAKUUL WAS NOT AWARE OF OMISSION OF OTHER CASTS /ESPECIALLY SURBHI" S
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Posted: 6 years ago
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One more thing people can bash gul ph writer whoever. Dont forget after barun left ipk the channel have subtitles that humiliate an actor he still worked with the same ph twice.
Neha was kicked out of the show saying love story is not working she worked with the same ph again in the same serial. If given a chance everyone will work with the same ph. When u r working u keep the emotions aside
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Posted: 6 years ago
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@Kalvin
Of course fans are not stupid, but then these kinds of dynamics change everyday. With what is going on there are always fans who will like the decision of the producers and there will be fans who do not like it. It is really hard to please everybody at the end of the day. As long as they are giving good end to Shivika then it's supposed to be all good. Otherwise, they might perhaps go with what happened in Qubool Hai where both Shivika will meet their premature demise. Even Qubool Hai ending for Zoya and Asad was not logical and not a happy ones. Yet, Qubool Hai managed to stay for quite some time after the first season. Of course with the track, the changes in the actors some fans and viewers decided not to tune in anymore. But, it is undeniable that the show might get some new spectators that might perhaps boost the TRPs.

And Nakuul Mehta choosing to stay with the show Ishqbaaz is not a bad decision in itself. It is the time for him to move on from the character Shivaay and play another character. How different will Shivaansh be from Shivaay because, he will play it differently as they must have different situation, character and background. Just like Surbhi Jyoti managed to play different characters in one show. Like how Mouni Roy was able to play double role during the beginning of Naagin 2. And of course many other different actors who played different characters and still able to get to the skin of the characters.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Please read my all replies, i never questioned about NM playing role in leap or about IB2 success. My arguments are about treatment given to SC by blaming her for leap and wrong statements like logical ending by makers. If NM is profession then SC is also professional, they can not ruin her image for their benefit.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ammu1471

I think NAKUUL WAS NOT AWARE OF OMISSION OF OTHER CASTS /ESPECIALLY SURBHI" S




What makes you think he wasn't aware? Ishqbaaz is Shivaays journey. He's star plus and the phs golden boy, they gave him a chance to play a new character. Off Course they would have told him the others won't be around the leap/season

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