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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar

I'm not going to get into a Shivaay v/s Anika...the simple point is that execution MATTERS...why is the audience expected to themselves extrapolate based on past examples and make excuses for the behavior of the characters when the actual execution of the "track" and scenes is a fail?

Shivaay's reaction to Anika's pleas and trying to remind him of their vows and what being PARTNERS means was CRUCIAL bit...but such underwhelming reactions from Shivaay made it fall flat...on top of that, the rush to slapstick comedy degraded it all further.


In a simple sentence, last week was an execution fail for whatever this "track" is supposed to be for Shivika...starting from a half-baked fake ML to fake wife to now supposed investigation of some chindi raaz.



I also disagree with the people saying that editing has improved...how? The hug in the dark room was so poorly edited with intercuts to Tanya creeping around...and it seemed like there were more dialogues in that scene that were abruptly cut short...and then the rest of the week didn't capitalize on momentum at a good pace either...and my focus is specifically on Shivika...I don't care what's happening with the rest...but Shivika-wise this was not a good week.


This "track" only has potential if emotions are correctly handled...which they aren't being so far...seems writer madam is distracted elsewhere.


totally agree with u...the reason i had to make this post...cause many were arguing about this characters wise and not track wise

since we're not given characters views and proper execution...all we can do is look at past tracks and decide if we think their behavior is accepted or not

people calling A without progression or dignity for not walking way...saying shivaay will always sacirfice Annika for his family making it sound like when blackmailers told him that he has to stay away from annika he was like "oh just that...i thought u will ask for something important"😡😡

as u said lack of proper showing of feelings for character in this "track" is the problem

so i wanted in my post to make everyone less negative about who is more important to shivaay cause IF is all about Annika vs family these days

u know to explain things character-wise in terms of practical decisions...pain and angst would've made it better...but wouldn't have made the decision he/she took different
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@AreYaar @blackandwhite and everyone who talked about how Shivaay should have told Annika and the partnership
I think he is still learning to take her as a partner when it comes to family things...he still thinks that he can/should do everything alone


as u said when NDE will happen...he's not gonna blame himself for not telling her but he'll blame himself for actually telling her and putting her in danger

he's gonna say that he should've solved the issue on his own as he doesn't want her to get hurt for someone else's mistake

if the NDE happens now...and i think it will...it's gonna be a huge shock to him cause this is practically the first time he is telling annika about a family problem that she herself didn't tell him (as in tia she told him, kamini she noticed the letter, NT was about her only) and the result would be hrt getting hurt

but as i said we're missing shivaay's POV...i wanna know what he felt annika should/would do when he declares Tanya as wife

what he went through those 15 days...
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Posted: 7 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: EnasZ



so i wanted in my post to make everyone less negative about who is more important to shivaay cause IF is all about Annika vs family these days

u know to explain things character-wise in terms of practical decisions...pain and angst would've made it better...but wouldn't have made the decision he/she took different



Yep, sadly people always are just looking for an excuse to jump into this Anika v/s Shivaay mode😆




That's the instant conclusion people always jump to...that he picked Family over Anika...lol to me, the bigger issue is the execution fail with the writers firstly adding this b.s. about a fake wife to disrespect Shivika's progression and then showing BOTH Shivaay and Anika brushing off the fake wife as if it's a joke...😕


This isn't about Family v/s Anika...this is about Shivaay not realizing what being partners actually means...and the focus needs to be on him realizing that instead of laughing off nonsense like a fake wife.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: AreYaar




Yep, sadly people always are just looking for an excuse to jump into this Anika v/s Shivaay mode😆




That's the instant conclusion people always jump to...that he picked Family over Anika...lol to me, the bigger issue is the execution fail with the writers firstly adding this b.s. about a fake wife to disrespect Shivika's progression and then showing BOTH Shivaay and Anika brushing off the fake wife as if it's a joke...😕


This isn't about Family v/s Anika...this is about Shivaay not realizing what being partners actually means...and the focus needs to be on him realizing that instead of laughing off nonsense like a fake wife.

If execution is failing obviously people will conclude to Annika vs family right because that's what CVs were dishing us scenes till now and him uttering My family vs our family now also not helping ..so I don't see any fault certain people jumping into this conclusion. However many people didn't want Annika to walk away they want her to fight, support your husband but keeping your self respect intact. Many also upset because the way Shivaay Annika are behaving to the BM demand... oh it's just that announcing another woman as wife to media... not a big deal .. let's move on and do some random comedy with the girl in the bedroom..n celebrate KC..this attitude is pissing many. Aree ese tho acha emotions n pain we saw during Mrs K BM. So ya I agree that execution is failing badly ..sorry to say if this continues people will disconnect from Shivika. 😭.. sorry to hijack your conversation.
Edited by Santhi_40 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: Santhi_40

If execution is failing obviously people will conclude to Annika vs family right because that's what CVs were dishing us scenes till now and him uttering My family vs our family now also not helping ..so I don't see any fault certain people jumping into this conclusion. However many people didn't want Annika to walk away they want her to fight, support your husband but keeping your self respect intact. Many also upset because the way Shivaay Annika are behaving to the BM demand... oh it's just that announcing another woman as wife to media... not a big deal .. let's move on and do some random comedy with the girl in the bedroom..n celebrate KC..this attitude is pissing many. Aree ese tho acha emotions n pain we saw during Mrs K BM. So ya I agree that execution is failing badly ..sorry to say if this continues people will disconnect from Shivika. 😭.. sorry to hijack your conversation.



I do understand your point as well...failed execution will make people jump to conclusions and given that Shivaay was the one who produced the fake wife, most of the backlash is bound to be towards him...the fact that he's never had to pretend to forget anyone from his family or produce a fake brother or fake moms or dads...inevitably that comparison rises in the mind😆...this is how the writers seem to like to go everytime...a third wheel just for the sake of it but this time they went too far in doing it on the heels of Shivaay having just atoned for all his past mistakes and promised to always take care of Anika. It's like overnight they suddenly produced a zombie Shivaay who had no connection to the Shivaay we are otherwise familiar with and they struggled the whole week to "justify" it in a half-baked manner.



The sheer disrespect to the Shivika relationship that they put forward with this fake wife angle and then showing Shivaay and Anika both taking it so casually...that is what bothers many people, including myself.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: EnasZ

@AreYaar @blackandwhite and everyone who talked about how Shivaay should have told Annika and the partnership

I think he is still learning to take her as a partner when it comes to family things...he still thinks that he can/should do everything alone


as u said when NDE will happen...he's not gonna blame himself for not telling her but he'll blame himself for actually telling her and putting her in danger

he's gonna say that he should've solved the issue on his own as he doesn't want her to get hurt for someone else's mistake

if the NDE happens now...and i think it will...it's gonna be a huge shock to him cause this is practically the first time he is telling annika about a family problem that she herself didn't tell him (as in tia she told him, kamini she noticed the letter, NT was about her only) and the result would be hrt getting hurt

but as i said we're missing shivaay's POV...i wanna know what he felt annika should/would do when he declares Tanya as wife

what he went through those 15 days...


*sigh* and that is where my disconnect lies.. The Shivaay in my head(after the previous tracks and his evolution...)kind of knows what partnership is.. Yes, He will tell her to back-off and would want to work solo... but only after he has made sure she enough information that will keep her safe.. after he has made sure she is not hurting.. Anyways, I guess.. I'll hope that this track helps him learns what partnership.. So, I'll throw lesser chamelis at him now..

Just to clarify...my point was if an NDE had happened when he had not told Anika about his fake ML, when he was pushing her away and Anika would have continued investigating on her own, he would have felt guilty.. And now you are saying.. he has told Anika and now if an NDE happens, he will blame himself, which is true as well... Anyways, I guess.. Team Billu ki Tadap is the right team to join now.. *sigh*

@bold I'm pretty sure he was not happy about it.. He did say Sorry because he could not give her the happiness he deserves...and if we do get Shivaay's POV... I'll consider that we are very lucky...😆😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
#47
I quiet liked the week episodes..
Not just shivika all side tracks also were watchable
But of course execution could be notches better
Comedy is fine but sprinkle it with a bit of angst like anika ml track n this could be a winner
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Completely agree with you
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Posted: 7 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: blackorwhite



*sigh* and that is where my disconnect lies.. The Shivaay in my head(after the previous tracks and his evolution...)kind of knows what partnership is.. Yes, He will tell her to back-off and would want to work solo... but only after he has made sure she enough information that will keep her safe.. after he has made sure she is not hurting.. Anyways, I guess.. I'll hope that this track helps him learns what partnership.. So, I'll throw lesser chamelis at him now..

Just to clarify...my point was if an NDE had happened when he had not told Anika about his fake ML, when he was pushing her away and Anika would have continued investigating on her own, he would have felt guilty.. And now you are saying.. he has told Anika and now if an NDE happens, he will blame himself, which is true as well...Anyways, I guess.. Team Billu ki Tadap is the right team to join now.. *sigh*

@bold I'm pretty sure he was not happy about it.. He did say Sorry because he could not give her the happiness he deserves...and if we do get Shivaay's POV... I'll consider that we are very lucky...😆😆

agree but the problem is it just a misplaced sorry..also even when we didn't get Shivaay pov directly we saw his pain and angst when hurting Annika earlier sadly that was missing here just cold expressions. They stalled Shivika story since merger the Shivika which was set part bcoz of their intensity and deep talk is missing..they r just left to do comedy and random romantic gestures.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Santhi_40

agree but the problem is it just a misplaced sorry..also even when we didn't get Shivaay pov directly we saw his pain and angst when hurting Annika earlier sadly that was missing here just cold expressions. They stalled Shivika story since merger the Shivika which was set part bcoz of their intensity and deep talk is missing..they r just left to do comedy and random romantic gestures.


Ohh I agree.. misplaced Sorry.. misplaced emotions.. misplaced taadi.. misplaced track.. My point was even if Shivaay's emotions were not shown - pathetic execution, I do trust him enuf to say that he was not enjoying it..😆😆

In order to reboot IB 1.0 - first episode, they just made a blunder... Shivaay went into the SSO mode, but they forgot to balance it out the 'evolved' Shivaay mode... I still feel Shivaay deciding to keep Anika out of this whole blackmail secret is one of the main reason why nothing translated on the screen properly...

+ that fake wife... I still don't understand why is she needed??? Why biwi... why public declaration... why this 3rd wheel?? *sigh*

yeah.. they have stalled this story.. but then rushed the actual wedding, Sahil custody track...I don't understand how CVs plan.. 😕😆
IB since some time now has been something we need to appreciate scene-by-scene.. because characters forget what they did and said yesterday... but this time the disconnect has been longer than usual.. Once NKK was resolved writers could not figure out what the next track should be..and hence, the intensity and deep talk is missing..

I actually do enjoy comedy and even random romance at times.. so, trying to zone things out.. but this Tanya needs to be kept far far far away...😡

Edited by blackorwhite - 7 years ago

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