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Posted: 8 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: incandescent

A well written post. I agree with you to an extent but I have a slightly different take on some of the things you mentioned here. I also didn't follow all the touch or talk debate which some of you mentioned here but I think I get the gist.


I guess a lot of people were upset at the lack of intensity and passion in the chawl scenes and I do understand where people are coming from. Shivika were separated for whole three months and they were finally out of Dadi's curfew, so it's understandable why some of you may feel their time together at the chawl should have been more passion filled. But the way I see it, this was about the challenge and Shivaay experiencing and adapting to a whole new situation and just being content at having Annika by his side again and basking in that happiness. Besides, he was totally out of his comfort zone and trying to adjust to unfamiliar surroundings and experiencing Annika's life, so I didn't mind the lack of intensity or tadi on his part so much.


However, I do agree that a conversation between them is necessary. It's like an entire scene has gone missing and I also agree that the execution and editing has been terrible. LM is an experienced director and can take any scene to a whole different level just by adding some touches. So his absence was greatly felt.


As for Annika realizing she is no less than an NKK girl, well, doesn't she already know that? Annika has never personally considered herself inferior and although she was made to feel inferior many times by SSO and others in the past, their whole journey together has been about how NKK doesn't matter. So whatever doubts she may have had, the love and acceptance she got from Shivaay and the other Oberois, that has already planted it firmly in her head. And after the gazebo scene, where Shivaay declared in front of the world that NKK doesn't matter to him, another realization becomes redundant.


Seeing shades of SC and NM in Annika and Shivaay, was most likely a result of lack of script and direction. But I am not that surprised at having a filler track before the actual functions because and they can't start anything new at this point and I also think they are taking time to plan things ahead and they won't focus on anything else until the wedding is done. It does feel like things have become a bit stagnant but I think they are buying time and they also have to bring all the characters back to RM for the wedding.

Another reason I am not all that disappointed is because I was expecting worse and it all actually turned out to be better than I expected. I have learned to expect the worst and I may have actually turned out worse and I feel like we lucked out here. I think this track was necessary because Shivaay really had to experience Annika's life in order to understand her better. While it wasn't really well executed and lacked punch, it served its purpose in a rather acceptable way.


I am not upset about the lack of passion but the intensity I am disappointed about. They had the intensity even when they were just being...They are still cute and they still have their charm but something is off...

LM's absence is greatly felt. I will never underestimate the importance of a good director after this😆


@italics is my opinion as well and ai hope that they decide on the next track soon.

I agree that this track was necessary but it had potential to be so much better than what we got and that is disappointing a lot of us I think but you caught the secret for enjoying IB. Expect worse and you will enjoy what you get😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: AreYaar



You mean this scene?...this is like a once in a blue moon event in IB-land😆




And +100000 on if they fix his goddamn hair, we'd all feel SO much better and it would actually feel like Shivaay instead of some unfamiliar version of him in horrible kurtas and poop colored hair😕😆


Last 2-3 epis toh have been about NM-SC just goofing around and having fun in this happy mode...and that's cute in it's own way but long term it doesn't work...they need to get back into the dynamic of Shivika.


Yes, that one. It's one of my favourite scenes of ShivIka and I feel like they kind of set the bar high with that scene and I end up comparing every scene with itI must stop doing that for my own good😆

Those pics😭 Everytime I see pics of Shivaay from pre-leap I feel like throwing a tantrum!😆 That hair and those suits...

I agree @bold. They are cute and they have their own charm but I don't want it to be a permanent thing!
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Posted: 8 years ago
#23
Okay so I'd try to jot down a few things in regards to why I'm bored and disappointed with this week's episodes so far in bullet points without enhancing or analysing on them , because much analyses have already taken place by others. :)
1. The zing factor, that spice, repeat watch value, entertainment quotient - whichever way you want to name it , is grossly missing. It's sad because IB episodes always had great repeat values even during shittiest of tracks.
The script is like spice less oil less stew. .pheeka.
2. The direction and shitty editing.
3. Lack of intensity and passion. The tadap that feel is missing. Lack of monologue, lack of reflection , lack of communication and conversation over important pending topics. .urrgghh It's like raat gayi to baat gayi with them. ..
The writer's creative brain has again gone into hibernation mode it seems.
Team talk team Touch dono ka pappu ho gaya because CVs are giving neither talk nor touch !!
The impact of Shivay learning more about Annika's life didn't come through because of shoddy writing and even crappier execution.
For e.g. they couldve inserted a 2 min. conversation between Shivika about Annika's daily struggles and still living with positivity and spirit and zing because of her indomitable will power and character integrity .
Or a 2 min. monologue of Shivaay thinking about Annika's life and her struggles and just feeling all the more proud and protective about her ..
Things like that gives the idea that necessary impact to drive home the message.
This careless execution and lack of thinking will cost them viewership I'm afraid. Common people will change channel instead of bothering to analyse by themselves.
Edited by Lady_Macbeth - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: DarkPhoenix93


Yes, that one. It's one of my favourite scenes of ShivIka and I feel like they kind of set the bar high with that scene and I end up comparing every scene with itI must stop doing that for my own good😆

Those pics😭 Everytime I see pics of Shivaay from pre-leap I feel like throwing a tantrum!😆 That hair and those suits...

I agree @bold. They are cute and they have their own charm but I don't want it to be a permanent thing!



I know right?...so picture perfect they were in this scene...now I feel like digging up all the old caps😆😆




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Posted: 8 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: AreYaar



That is exactly what it is😆


And I'm not really sure what conversation everyone is expecting...do you guys want Shivika to talk about what happened in the last 3 months? LOL come on, this is IB...haven't we watched this show in the last one year to know better by now? 😆...I'm frankly shocked ki we even got as much follow up conversation as we did vis a vis the gazebo scene with them admitting their mistakes, lack of trust and vowing to tackle things together from here on...


The show is going more for the soulful understanding dynamic b/w Shivika wherein they don't feel the need to rehash everything that happened in the last three months...they do make references in conversations from time to time as needed but it's not going to be one big specific convo if that's what people are looking for😕


I frankly didn't mind today's Shivika scenes despite all the randomness😆...they were cute in the chai scene and the greh pravesh...


I agree that it would be nice to see the writers doing a better job of consistency and momentum vis a vis how they want to evolve the attraction b/w Shivika and I also agree that despite the cutesy factor, the last two epis have been lacking on feel and connect...but it does feel like the writers are in standby mode and don't know what to do with these two when there isn't high drama or conflict to build their interactions around😆


Let's see if they can evolve the chemistry nicely in this new phase in the coming days otherwise yes it may all get too sappy to be palatable😆...NM-SC can only do so much if the script doesn't note down the fine details vis a vis this shift in Shivika's dynamic...and the new dynamic should build on what already existed...the tadi, the cutesiness, the goofiness, the passion...all existed simultaneously...one doesn't have to be sacrificed for the sake of the other...the kitchen scene last week was a good example of balance of all the elements that make Shivika fun...they can take notes from there and continue to evolve😆




@bold Couldn't have said it better. I like the adorable scenes, but there is something lacking. The over- accommodating behavior was weird, but they saved it with them admitting both their food was bad in the end lol. This sappy scenes won't last long-term. The writers have a habit of resetting the characters for new tracks so that's probably what they'll do when they figure out where the story should go.

I'm not expecting consistency or discussions, but after months of buildup Pinky's arc and the reunion was a letdown.

So true SC and NM can only do so much with what the writers are giving them. It doesn't help that the hour slot has the whole cast and the writers on empty right now.
Edited by yellomellow - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: ...Nihara...

Today I felt like more NM-SC than shivika,particularly Anika 's "accha teek hai","teek hai" frequently in the scenes it is actually SC thing not Anika,today was a major missing yaar,i thought today they will show continuity from yesterday's scene but they wasted the potential,i think this filler scenes will continue for 2 weeks having nothing substance or progress in shivika just in timepass mode,yesterday was much better compared to today.


They were in character mostly but occasionally I felt NaRbhi and I think that's the lack of a proper scrit and they won't get that until shaadi starts and CVs decide where they want to go with the story after the shaadi. So we are stuck with fillers until rasams start. Basically I am hoping things will improve after SC comes back from her vaca!
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Posted: 8 years ago
#27

Originally posted by: yellomellow


This sappy scenes won't last long-term. The writers have a habit of resetting the characters for new tracks so that's probably what they'll do when they figure out where the story should go.

I'm not expecting consistency or discussions, but after months of buildup Pinky's arc and the reunion was a letdown.

So true SC and NM can only do so much with what the writers are giving them. It doesn't help that the hour slot has the whole cast and the writers on empty right now.



I didn't think the reunion was a letdown, man...I loved the gazebo scene and the few epis after that were a good balance in terms of fun, happy moments and intense/poignant bits...it's just since this chawl challenge that things have become hit or miss this week...the auto scene last week was like PERFECT😆


Anyways we've all watched IB long enough to know a flip is coming...the sappy mode won't last but it's anyone's guess which direction the writers will flip in...for better or worse😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: AreYaar



I know right?...so picture perfect they were in this scene...now I feel like digging up all the old caps😆😆





More caps of blackhaired Shivaay😭😭😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: Lady_Macbeth

Okay so I'd try to jot down a few things in regards to why I'm bored and disappointed with this week's episodes so far in bullet points without enhancing or analysing on them , because much analyses have already taken place by others. :)

1. The zing factor, that spice, repeat watch value, entertainment quotient - whichever way you want to name it , is grossly missing. It's sad because IB episodes always had great repeat values even during shittiest of tracks.
The script is like spice less oil less stew. .pheeka.
2. The direction and shitty editing.
3. Lack of intensity and passion. The tadap that feel is missing. Lack of monologue, lack of reflection , lack of communication and conversation over important pending topics. .urrgghh It's like raat gayi to baat gayi with them. ..
The writer's creative brain has again gone into hibernation mode it seems.
Team talk team Touch dono ka pappu ho gaya because CVs are giving neither talk nor touch !!
The impact of Shivay learning more about Annika's life didn't come through because of shoddy writing and even crappier execution.
For e.g. they couldve inserted a 2 min. conversation between Shivika about Annika's daily struggles and still living with positivity and spirit and zing because of her indomitable will power and character integrity .
Or a 2 min. monologue of Shivaay thinking about Annika's life and her struggles and just feeling all the more proud and protective about her ..
Things like that gives the idea that necessary impact to drive home the message.
This careless execution and lack of thinking will cost them viewership I'm afraid. Common people will change channel instead of bothering to analyse by themselves.


I am okay with the lack of passion but intensity I hope will be back by the time of shaadi! Even with poor writing this track could have been much better with proper execution and editing! I respect Lalit Mohan so much after yesterday and today 😆

For now I am okay with this cutesy phase. They are adorable but like AreYaar said in her post this won't work long term and I hope the ShivIka from last week Tuesday return
Edited by DarkPhoenix93 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#30

Originally posted by: AreYaar



I didn't think the reunion was a letdown, man...I loved the gazebo scene and the few epis after that were a good balance in terms of fun, happy moments and intense/poignant bits...it's just since this chawl challenge that things have become hit or miss this week...the auto scene last week was like PERFECT😆


Anyways we've all watched IB long enough to know a flip is coming...the sappy mode won't last but it's anyone's guess which direction the writers will flip in...for better or worse😆


@bold- it kinda feels like the calm before the storm doesn't it? Drama is coming and after seeing those BTS pics where Pinky and Svetlana are both together...

As much as we are complaining now I have a feeling we will be missing this happy cutesy phase once Pinky or/and Svetlana strikes!
Edited by DarkPhoenix93 - 8 years ago

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