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asya34

@asya34

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Posted: 8 years ago

#141

Originally posted by: _Aliza_

Very interesting takes here. I'm loving the logic. However, I don't want to trust the writers this easily.😆 neither do we 😆 but we are just people on the forum trying to make sense of this madness so that we can sleep at night ...lol 😉

So basically we're supposed to look for all the tracks which were left open, and bring into light all the 'loopholes' cause they may not have been one at all.😆 But I find it hard to believe that CVs have been dragging one main plot, adding layers to it for months. 😆 when did Shivvay say the ML track seed was sown?? If you look back at that episode it will shock you that it had been planted that long ago

I just have one question.😳 What do you think is the 'arc' here finally, cause at the end of the day the 'arc' is what all this is about. yes it is .. that is the point of this whole exercise, right? 😉

PS: I will be happy and satisfied if it turns out the way you're predicting, cause it's too hard to digest what they're showing us right now. maybe not to the 'T' but this is the rough idea about what I feel is really happening

ETA: If it goes your way, the merger at this juncture makes sense too. The Oberois plotting together. They may end up showing that Om was aware of what Gauri was trying to tell him as well and Rudy figured out that Bhavvya was an undercover cop ... there is the net in the Promo then

ETA 2: Got the arc. 😆 😳

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asya34

@asya34

Dazzler

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Posted: 8 years ago

#142

Pearl, thanks for starting the thread. you are most welcome and don't thank me ... I am enjoying this thread as much as you all 😊

I personally love Anisa and your posts the much. U don't believe me but i had gone through all 874 pages searching for Anisa and ur posts in the last one month. I had come across both ur posts only in feb 2017. so ent back and read all ur posts. lol ... I started posting much after Anisa ... I have been mostly a silent reader on the forum in the past

This has been by far the most intriguing plot in the history of IB. hope the writers go this way. they may not go exactly this way but I think some of it might turn out this way ... remember they have kept the plot very very vague and closed as they know they are dealing with an intelligent audience who can unravel their plot in the matter of a night if they sleep on it... hence the very very sketchy and random scenes that are throwing us off and the non stop emotions that are stopping us from thinking about the real track ... the over load of emotions and crying stops people from looking past that to what is really happening because we then only 'feel' not 'think'
Writers magic dust you may call it 😆 it puts you under a spell

pls let the writers see this thread. tweet them. atleast then they can get some idea as to how to move forward with the story rather than changing tracks every now and then lol ... GulNeet might shoot themselves if they read this 😆

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asya34

@asya34

Dazzler

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Posted: 8 years ago

#143

Originally posted by: maan-chahatgeet

👏wow!
just wow!reading this has been overwhelming
This is the best thought story till now.
Yes if this comes true, Ishqbaaz breaks all barriers n stands tall beating it's own self as the best show ever in the history Of Indian Television.
This piece that you wrote has moved me so emotionally I can't even tell you.
Thank you Pearl for starting this thread.uts been best read so far:)
you are most welcome Thwisha (love that name but I told you that already, right? 😉) ... it beats getting all emotional about the track and frustrated about all the scenes that are half baked and not making any sense ... this way on this thread we can 'hash' it out, speak our frustrations, ask the questions, get them answered and in general try to make some sense of this madness instead of just getting frustrated ... 😆

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malose

@malose

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Posted: 8 years ago

#144

Hi Peral
First thanks for this thread
I have been rewatching the show all weekend and You can actually see that when pinky saw that annika means something to shivay she started hating her so I think this was coming that she maid annika leave shivay
I don't know if you read harnets interview but she was talking about that shivays growth is finished and he has made his retemshin and that it's annikas time to start to grow and stop having insecurities but I think this interview was before they started to do damage control and changeout the track because it didn't work with the audiences
The belev that they are really doing a damage control and change the track little bit and I think to to gain back the lost trp the makers going to and change the game and make it as it was shivika game but I don't think that was the original track

oh and i forgot is it me or shivay sems like he is regretting that he threw annika out that way and that he didn't think and get angry

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ramz21

@ramz21

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Posted: 8 years ago

#145

I have been silently reading this thread!So many logical theories that are interesting but trust me writers & gul do not have brains to think logically!They wouldn't have thought half of these theories too!

There is a new interview of harneet where she clearly states shivika separated due to internal conflicts pinky just acted as a catalyst!Shivaay's nkk & anika's insecurity led to the separation!This separation was needed to come back stronger!She also states that shivaay has been redeemed & his journey from heartbreak back to love will be intense and beautiful! Now this interview clearly indicates that the separation is real!

Now let me share my theory!

The separation,angst is real! Shivaay realizes that he threw her out & she didn't bother to come back & explain coz she has always done that! So he keeps a tab on her & makes sure she doesn't get a job at all!He probably goes to her chawl every night just to get a glimpse of her!The cvs have not made this clear though!He wants her to come back & answer his questions! One fine day he gets to know about samar's visit to the chawl & the possessive hubby that he is wants to buy the chawl so that his visits can be regular & he doesn't have to hide,also keep that samar away from his wife!The dargah scene he misunderstood her to have moved on!He is hurt!He probably knows she wouldn't do that but he gets a reason to hurt her,taunt her he does it!As he walks back to the car the engagement voice over keeps lingering in his mind & just then he gets the news that samar has bought the chawl!

There u go he goes crazy,smashes things & gets himself locked up!The sso surrendering himself is shocking to anybody,the police would have called someone from his family that was rudy! Shivaay knows what the reaction will be,he expected the news to reach anika & knew she would come running else their brothers would certainly bring their bhabhi for their bhai!Anika cannot bear shivaay's hate for her,decided to leave!That's when somebody stops her,it's definitely rudy!Omru get the OM for anika!Shivaay comes back & I am.Sure khanna must have informed him about house papers!

Everyone start attacking shivaay & shivaay is like it's only going to affect my life!He knew what's happening but pretended! Then he sees her chandni & there she comes!He was absolutely calm,composed,smirking as though this is exactly what he wanted! She says it's my house & you all have to do what I say & he smirks,walks away ignoring pinky's drama!

So this means he wanted her back,she is there,now he will keep her away from samar,also he will extract what he wants slowly(the answers to her behaviour that day) They will play all the jealousy,farak padta hai games using rohit,ragini & samar! When the truth is revealed,ragini & co will turn permanent villains!

Ps: I don't know if it made sense but just shared what I felt! He sure knows she played a game,he just wants answers and the truth from her now,which he will extract eventually!

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EnasZ

@EnasZ

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Posted: 8 years ago

#146

i am loving this thread...not getting bored of reading it

reading @bs123 & @real12 & asya's comments i'm really starting to believe this is all a master plan

my only prolblem (if this is the fact) is AniOmRu...can Annika really be acting her tears and crying and hugging shivaay's clothes for the sake of drama

even OmRu's out burst was geuniune...i would like to belive that shivaay kept the 3 people he loves the most out of this plan just to keep them safe

bbut what about shivaay's heart attack??u think he would have been this effected by being seperated from Annika if she was part of the plan {it also explains shivika's angst)

p.s: gosh i hope this becomes true and it's all shivaay's plan...but without AniOmRu

yaar some one should really tweet harneet this thread..u guys might give her great ideas...i really want to see this stuff play out😭😭😭

someone should write a story about this {the plan without AniOmRu} ...pretty please asya😭😭😭

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bs123

@bs123

Explorer

Posted: 8 years ago

#147

Asya, your thread is just extraordinary, fantastic, mind-blowing!!! :) Thanks for coming up with a topic that compelled so many silent readers like myself to participate. I really hope the CVs end up connecting all loose ends and come up with a good climax.

Now, a lot has been said and many amazing theories have been proposed with a lot of supporting details to go with them.

I was wondering if we all could now zero in on some of the more nitty gritty details from the episodes that have not yet been mentioned, which would help go with Asya and real123's theories about the separation being a drama.

For those who would argue that we might just be reading too much into everything and the CVs wouldn't have thought that far, I think it would be a fun exercise to do anyhow.

I'll just list a few nitty gritty details that I could think of off the top of my head right now. I haven't really re-watched many of the pre-separation episodes like some of you may have so you'll probably be able to come up with a lot more.

1. Shivaay not looking into the mehndi fiasco that Pinky blamed Annika for when someone clearly appeared to be harming his family.

2. The long shots that were emphasized when Pinky reveals Shivaay's illegitimacy. Probably meant someone was listening? I felt they focused on that quite a bit.

3. Both Shakti and Pinky asking Shivaay, "what was the need for the re-marriage preparation".

If Pinky's drama is genuine, her concern is understandable, but why Shakti?Shouldn't he be happy for Shivaay like the rest of the family members. He clearly wasn't pleased with Shivaay's decision here. However, Shivaay cuts both of them off saying it is necessary. It's possible that Shakti doesn't understand the purpose of the remarriage preparations when there is an impending separation. The purpose of Shivaay's proposal could have been to indirectly tell Annika that he loves her and show her how much she means to him. If the separation were to have happened in any other manner, I don't know if Shivaay would have been able to give her that almost confession. I think she got the message and discovered the full extent of his feelings. It's bittersweet, but maybe that's why he did it if we go with the theory that it was a master plan.

4. Pinky and Shakti want to have a discussion about something the very next day after the separation.

I think there was definitely something there that the rest of us have not keyed into yet.

I am actually genuinely curious about what some of you think regarding the full family not being involved in the plan. Isn't it possible that only some of them are involved? I can't imagine Dadi being in on it and Tej seemed clueless when the illegitimacy truth was first revealed to him by Jhanvi, but played along when she blackmailed him. I still like to believe that Annika doesn't know about this since her shock at the illegitimacy truth, OmRu kasam, the angst, and separation felt very real.

It seems that something is going on in Annika's head while something else is going on in Shivaay's. What do you think?

Edited by bs123 - 8 years ago

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bs123

@bs123

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Posted: 8 years ago

#148

Originally posted by: EnasZ
i am loving this thread...not getting bored of reading it
reading @bs123 & @real12 & asya's comments i'm really starting to believe this is all a master plan

I really hope it is! :)

my only prolblem (if this is the fact) is AniOmRu...can Annika really be acting her tears and crying and hugging shivaay's clothes for the sake of drama

I don't think she's acting. I actually think she is not aware about the real reason behind the separation. She was even planning to leave the city if OmRu didn't stop her!!

even OmRu's out burst was geuniune...i would like to belive that shivaay kept the 3 people he loves the most out of this plan just to keep them safe

I think so too. I feel that Annika and OmRu are not a part of this master plan and have their own thing going on where they are trying to hide the illegitimacy truth from Shivaay and bring back his emotions.

However, I don't think he's lost his emotions at all. That's just a selective facade. He still gets angry, sad, and happy, but these emotions are channeled differently. He was angry because of losing the Samar chawl deal. He was sad and hurt when he was watching Annika that night at the chawl. he was happy when he realized Om was going to become a father and lovingly consoled Gauri when she was worried about Om not coming out of coma. He was amused when Annika reentered OM and sarcastic when met her at the dargah. Lol! He was even happy when he met Advay :P

bbut what about shivaay's heart attack??u think he would have been this effected by being seperated from Annika if she was part of the plan {it also explains shivika's angst)

Again, I think the angst is real and Annika is unaware. This would also explain why Surbhi/writers cried.

p.s: gosh i hope this becomes true and it's all shivaay's plan...but without AniOmRu

yaar some one should really tweet harneet this thread..u guys might give her great ideas...i really want to see this stuff play out😭😭😭

someone should write a story about this {the plan without AniOmRu} ...pretty please asya😭😭😭

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swash2

@swash2

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

#149

For all we know, Dadi is not really Dadi but Mrs.Malhotra with a mask! Just acting out with some stuffed oillows! Real Dadi is either locked up in basement or under Om's room!

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shalu

@sxj126

Inactive

Posted: 8 years ago

#150

OMG what have you started

Even I think there is some drama going on:

Firstly, Annika's dialogue to Tia regarding Shivaay being with her always is a big give away.

Then, Annika always saying NKK is SSO's gurroor n it'll break him so she'll do this for him can also imply that she has to prove him legitimate n whole family are players in this game. OmRu never like these kinds of plans where Annika is in danger or their marriage is in danger like in ML track, when SSO was signing divorce papers Rudy was very scared so Annika gave the Kasam to do it. The only person who could've been troublesome in this was Tej n he could easily foil their plans so OmRu smartly involved Jaanvi n she blackmailed Tej to play along.

Also, Pinky teaming up with Kamini was a little too much. We can see how much she hates Kamini but still she helped her to get Prinku married n sent Prinku to her house without even asking Jaanvi as till then Jaanvi wasn't a part of the plan.

Also, right after Shivaay proved Ranveer is changed man they had a dil boley Oberoi moment in sangeet
Last time they had a family moment when the whole family was against Mahi. So I think this was a real war cry from them.
Kamini came home next day to taunt Oberois immediately after Annika left n taunted that Oberois never go for divorce, may be she was just making sure that divorce really happened or not.
But I feel Annika being Annika went one step ahead without informing Shivaay n joined Samar for job, SSO was there behind Ragini when she was telling her brother to hire her. I feel the reason Shivaay is not talking to Annika now n is really angry is because of her putting herself in danger by going to Samar. So he directly didn't go to get her but sent OmRu to get her.

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