separation...my take

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Posted: 8 years ago
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hello,every 1

this is what i think of the whole separation track ...it was my reply to Asya's posts whom i always love to read...her posts always give me new prospective into tracks


as far as the question goes y is it Annika's burden to tell? i totally agree...she wouldn't be able to live with the guilt of breaking him apart and she shouldn't...however,such (as u said) a man that lives in the illusion of NKK...to break him after everything they both went through isn't right at all

maybe if she would have left without a trace and just wrote some dramatic note would have been better...her reasoning might be correct but her actions aren't

with everything she's doing...she's proving to him that the bubble he lives in is truth (like the time she accepted his money in the rain...he looked disappointed that she proved him right)

plus...Annika's insecurities are part of this too...she's always one foot in...one foot out...ready to jump off this relation the moment something goes wrong (even after giving many reassurances)...that jungle track's arc was to ASSURE HER THAT ONLY THEY CAN BREAK THEM...& THAT HE WANTS THIS RELATION & SO DOES SHE

him shouting at her or yelling or ect doesn't justify her insecurity at all...i think she too doesn't think of herself as his family too,maybe cause she doesn't know yet what it means to belong to one...she's insecure not because of his actions but because she's scared of pain of being left ...so she takes the first step to leave...always

although i don't like the idea that shivika's separation would be her vacation from the family problems but i guess its the bitter truth...if pinky & everyone had appreciated what she did to the family we wouldn't be in this miss...but one thing for sure...she won't be at peace...not because she's mahan or she's in love...it's because she thinks of them as family despite what they think...love isn't about what the other side offers it's about what u give

as for shivaay:
shivaay without NKK isn't just a husbad ...he's a brother,a son and grand son too...i really believed that if they continued without separation then shivaay might have lost his faith in NKK but annika doing all of this will only bring him back to a rougher,colder and more tortured version

coming to shivaay's main issue:

he needs to have ABSOLUTE TRUST in Annika,...she needs really to become PART OF HIS FAMILY...i was wondering if the whole prinku marriage video showed any 1 other than annika would he have believed??no he would have paid more attention

he thinks of her as his family ..yes...if u tell him to choose between hurting her and them he wouldn't choose (already proved it)...he'll stand by her side without evidence against his family(Rudra's wedding) THE ONLY PROBLEM HERE IS THAT HE IS EFFECTED BY HIS MOTHER...emotional blackmail always works

on the other hand, even if OmRu were to accuse pinky in front of shivaay he wouldn't have believed them (when om lost faith in tej when tej & shakti went to jail ... they both started yelling at eachother ...which means shivaay at least acted with her the same as with his brothers when it comes to accusing)

and i think SHIVAAY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH...NO HUMAN BEING CAN...so i never blamed him for running away from the truth

finally,i don't like the idea of Annika being able to move on with a clear conscious while shivaay would be beating around the bushes trying to understand what he did wrong...shouldn't she be in guilt for breaking THEM...i know she had no choice but still

p.s: about aditi, i don't think shivaay will be in a relation with her...maybe just friends??? i don't know y but i felt that way

pps: sorry for the long essay... i just feel sad for ML most of the times😆😆 they're never shown mahan ...even in parallels Annika gets excuses and sympathy while the poor guy gets bashed all the time...😆😆😆

sorry the fan girl in me can't stop herself😆

do share ur opinios u guys & no bashing plzz😆😆😆my poor heart can't take it😊😊

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: EnasZ

hello,every 1

this is what i think of the whole separation track ...it was my reply to Asya's posts whom i always love to read...her posts always give me new prospective into tracks


as far as the question goes y is it Annika's burden to tell? i totally agree...she wouldn't be able to live with the guilt of breaking him apart and she shouldn't...however,such (as u said) a man that lives in the illusion of NKK...to break him after everything they both went through isn't right at all

maybe if she would have left without a trace and just wrote some dramatic note would have been better...her reasoning might be correct but her actions aren't

with everything she's doing...she's proving to him that the bubble he lives in is truth (like the time she accepted his money in the rain...he looked disappointed that she proved him right)

plus...Annika's insecurities are part of this too...she's always one foot in...one foot out...ready to jump off this relation the moment something goes wrong (even after giving many reassurances)...that jungle track's arc was to ASSURE HER THAT ONLY THEY CAN BREAK THEM...& THAT HE WANTS THIS RELATION & SO DOES SHE

him shouting at her or yelling or ect doesn't justify her insecurity at all...ithink she too doesn't think of herself as his family too,maybe cause she doesn't know yet what it means to belong to one...she's insecure not because of his actions but because she's scared of pain of being left ...so she takes the first step to leave...always

although i don't like the idea that shivika's separation would be her vacation from the family problems but i guess its the bitter truth...if pinky & everyone had appreciated what she did to the family we wouldn't be in this miss...but one thing for sure...she won't be at peace...not because she's mahan or she's in love...it's because she thinks of them as family despite what they think...love isn't about what the other side offers it's about what u give

as for shivaay:
shivaay without NKK isn't just a husbad ...he's a brother,a son and grand son too...i really believed that if they continued without separation then shivaay might have lost his faith in NKK but annika doing all of this will only bring him back to a rougher,colder and more tortured version

coming to shivaay's main issue:

he needs to have ABSOLUTE TRUST in Annika,...she needs really to become PART OF HIS FAMILY...i was wondering if the whole prinku marriage video showed any 1 other than annika would he have believed??no he would have paid more attention

he thinks of her as his family ..yes...if u tell him to choose between hurting her and them he wouldn't choose (already proved it)...he'll stand by her side without evidence against his family(Rudra's wedding)THE ONLY PROBLEM HERE IS THAT HE IS EFFECTED BY HIS MOTHER...emotionalblackmailalways works

on the other hand, even if OmRu were to accuse pinky in front of shivaay he wouldn't have believed them (when om lost faith in tej when tej & shakti went to jail ... they both started yelling at eachother ...which means shivaay at least acted with her the same as with his brothers when it comes to accusing)

and i think SHIVAAY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH...NO HUMAN BEING CAN...so i never blamed him for running away from the truth

finally,i don't like the idea of Annika being able to move on with a clear conscious while shivaay would be beating around the bushes trying to understand what he did wrong...shouldn't she be in guilt for breaking THEM...i know she had no choice but still

p.s: about aditi, i don't think shivaay will be in a relation with her...maybe just friends??? i don't know y but i felt that way

pps: sorry for the long essay... i just feel sad for ML most of the times😆😆they're never shown mahan ...even in parallels Annika gets excuses and sympathy while the poor guy gets bashed all the time...😆😆😆

sorry the fan girl in me can't stop herself😆

do share ur opinios u guys & no bashing plzz😆😆😆my poor heart can't take it😊😊

I agree most of your points except the last part where Shivay gets bashed every time .. up until now whatever bashing he got is justified but this time alon he is not entirely at fault..n this is the only time Annika is seen at fault
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I agree with most of your point but for me (point1) not annika and nor shivaay at fault or (point2) both are at fault here.
Both not at fault:

Both are not at fault because for annika she can not see shivaay's breakdown or shivaay in pain.
If we know something that would heart our loved one then we try to protect them that truth rather than telling them the truth, causing the pain and then later helping them to overcome the pain,
Out first instinct is to protect from coming pain. Annika was the one who has seen worst of Shivaay because of his NKK obsession. Annika has seen that how much pride is to be SSO for Shivaay. Annika has seen that his family is strength, he loves his mom way too much. All this she has seen and have known in these months. She very well knows that Shivaay will be completely broken, his pride will be gone and he will be in so much pain. I agree that she can be there in his side and tell the truth but do you think for someone like annika who loves shivaay so selflessly, she will be able to see him in so much pain, in such broken state. She does not want him to go through that pain so she gave up to pinky threat.
If she would have gone without doing anything then shivaay would have found her and would demand answers from her which she can not give it to him. Only way that shivaay will not look for her is when he will hate her so she did this. Shivaay is not at fault because when it comes to his brothers he acts very quickly and be it anyone on receiving end.

Both are at fault:
For me Shivaay is more at fault. (sorry I don't want to hurt anyones feeling here). SHivaay can sense annika, he can see sense when she is in danger but he can not see that something is bothering her, that she has been going through emotional torture all this while. Whatever she said after the jewellery scene, each word was truth but shivaays reasoning was like my mom is like this only she says these things but will not harm anyone.

For annika. she could have found some other solution rather than using his weaknesses but I think karma is a bitch and whatever Shivaay did in wedding, she is doing it now. But even here the question she asked was true, yes not at this stage but at the stage when that truth had come then this question was legit valid that if Om is najayaz he wouldn't mind but her NKK mattered.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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No one will comment on the post because whatever happens its always shivaay's fault.Lol!

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Agree! 👍🏼

Atleast I won't blame Shivaay for Kicking out Anika from OM and his life because this time he is not wrong. 😆

It's Anika's actions (I know her intentions were to save Shivaay from getting shattered) which led Shivaay to do this.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Nice post... 👏 ... Shivay at no fault on this issue... Anika at fault , as she wanted to do it, and she is the one executing the plan to be thrown out, she didnot listen to other family members either...


Somehow based on yesterday's episode i felt... both Pinky and Anika are stubborn to prove their points ... Poor Shivay will take the brunt out of this

Either way he will be hurt, knowing the truth or not... Anika is hurting Shivay, equally as Pinky is hurting him...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: angel_nonu

I agree with most of your point but for me (point1) not annika and nor shivaay at fault or (point2) both are at fault here.

Both not at fault:

Both are not at fault because for annika she can not see shivaay's breakdown or shivaay in pain.
If we know something that would heart our loved one then we try to protect them that truth rather than telling them the truth, causing the pain and then later helping them to overcome the pain,
Out first instinct is to protect from coming pain. Annika was the one who has seen worst of Shivaay because of his NKK obsession. Annika has seen that how much pride is to be SSO for Shivaay. Annika has seen that his family is strength, he loves his mom way too much. All this she has seen and have known in these months. She very well knows that Shivaay will be completely broken, his pride will be gone and he will be in so much pain. I agree that she can be there in his side and tell the truth but do you think for someone like annika who loves shivaay so selflessly, she will be able to see him in so much pain, in such broken state. She does not want him to go through that pain so she gave up to pinky threat.
If she would have gone without doing anything then shivaay would have found her and would demand answers from her which she can not give it to him. Only way that shivaay will not look for her is when he will hate her so she did this. Shivaay is not at fault because when it comes to his brothers he acts very quickly and be it anyone on receiving end.

Both are at fault:
For me Shivaay is more at fault. (sorry I don't want to hurt anyones feeling here). SHivaay can sense annika, he can see sense when she is in danger but he can not see that something is bothering her, that she has been going through emotional torture all this while. Whatever she said after the jewellery scene, each word was truth but shivaays reasoning was like my mom is like this only she says these things but will not harm anyone.

For annika. she could have found some other solution rather than using his weaknesses but I think karma is a bitch and whatever Shivaay did in wedding, she is doing it now. But even here the question she asked was true, yes not at this stage but at the stage when that truth had come then this question was legit valid that if Om is najayaz he wouldn't mind but her NKK mattered.


i agree with the first point about them not being at fault...i totlaly understand Y they will do what they will do...she loves him too much to be the reason of his pain ... he's hurt too much that i know he'll say wrong things but it's basic human reaction...words in anger are never meant...not most of the time at least

@bold : i think his biggest mistake is turning away from the truth because he simply CAN'T HANDLE IT ... i think the lack of an apparent enemy is the reason for him not investigating her worry although i expected him too

even when he sees her arguing with his mother (& her reasons are fine) but no one would have thought (not even him) that his mother would stoop sl low
till ponky her self announced she wasn't his mother ... every 1 kept saying how unlike mothers and terrible actions she's doing ect,ect

it's un expected enemy ...that's my point

@red: actually she kind of had no other way...although she's breaking him deep down bt ponky cornered her...the right move was letting omru or jhanvi break the news to him...neither leaving him nor being the one to face the guilt of breaking him

my only problem is my fear of how much she breaks him...i hope she didn't break beyond repair
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: pickachu

No one will comment on the post because whatever happens its always shivaay's fault.Lol!


🤣... u just made me laugh ... ok to be honest many people feel shivaay is the innocent one here
his only fault is fearing to face the truth (which i again say is human only)

i think the most intersting part about this separation that it's no one's fault ...YET IT'S EXPLORING BOTH SHIVIKA'S WEAKNESS

shivaay's lack of absouloute trust in Annika's ...Annika's lack of feeling of belonging & fighting for what is rightfully her place & rightfullly hers...Annika's insecurities

i think the whole MS falling indicates this ... the point of this separation is a day when shivaay would trust her enough...know her enough that the slightest change in her eyes would alert the SSO in him to take actions

a day when some 1 tells annika to leave him (NO MATTER WHO THAT IS) she'll just have shush them up knowing that she matters AS MUCH AS HIS FAMIY...aday when they become HER FAMILY TOO ...a day when she'll be the one to save her MS from falling and breaking

finally,although is illegitmacy is about shivaay loosing his nkk, but this separation to make sure that annika's insecurities break ... so that when the re unite...it's for a life time❤️
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shooting.Star

Agree! 👍🏼

Atleast I won't blame Shivaay for Kicking out Anika from OM and his life because this time he is not wrong. 😆

It's Anika's actions (I know her intentions were to save Shivaay from getting shattered) which led Shivaay to do this.


i think every 1 is balming him for not picking up her worries...which is kind of correct because it's not like him not to want to get to the buttom of things

however, my only execuse is the lack of obvious enemies in his life ... he feels everything is fine...maybe annika's tension is due to somthing in home but not something this big


@bold : i wouldn't either ... she knows him and she pressed all the right buttons
it's the equilivant reaction of such an action


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: neeli123

Nice post... 👏 ... Shivay at no fault on this issue... Anika at fault , as she wanted to do it, and she is the one executing the plan to be thrown out, she didnot listen to other family members either...


Somehow based on yesterday's episode i felt... both Pinky and Anika are stubborn to prove their points ... Poor Shivay will take the brunt out of this

Either way he will be hurt, knowing the truth or not... Anika is hurting Shivay, equally as Pinky is hurting him...


she didn't want to do it...but she knows it's coming...i just would have prefered if she let OmRu break the news to him...instead of leaving him in all this wondering what went wrong

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