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Posted: 8 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: vivacious_gurl


Shivaay Is very much in character... He has feelings for her but they rnt deep enuf to change his beliefs yet... Shivaay has always been manipulative and shrewd businessman... So even now he wants to eat the cake n have the pie too... When anika spoke about Ansh n shivika... Ppl thot He imagined their kids... Yes He did.. But at that time thot bout kids with her was kind of michmichi for him as his NKK is too ingrained... N Yes he doesn't know anything about her and her past...the truth about ppl is when they start liking someone... They get into relationships... But if they feel the person doesn't suit their standards n isn't in the belief structure they have, they do break up n marry someone else who suits their std... In such relationships the focus is on me... My needs... N Not the other person's feelings and need...

Billu's love at the moment is selfish... While Anika's is selfless... She is getting trampled on from all angles but she is letting it be done just coz she is hopelessly in love but she too can't see a future coz she is scared of Billu's obsession with NKK... She too fears when Billu will know that she is an orphan brought up in an orphanage how will he react... She already can see that her treatment may not be very diff from what pinky gives her... So she knows whr she stands... She is staff... N it is hurting her that after all this, she is still just staff even to Shivaay... Shivaay may hv given her pinky promise that he will make everything right but he doesn't know everything right for anika wud b for him to accept her as she is as his wife infront of all... Give her that desired respect in society...


He doesn't think about her feelings at all.. He is Ofcourse playing with her emotions but thinks it's only fair coz he has feelings..She asked for a name to this relationship as Kalavati... He dint give one n dint think it's necessary for him to explain his feelings... That showed anika what he wants.. Ek time pe do nav pe savaar hai Billu...




Agree with your points in bold👍🏼


However, I don't think Shivaay will treat Anika like Pinky does at any point...I really don't think it matters to him now if he finds out that Anika is an orphan...how is that any different from the current situation where he doesn't know anything about her khoon khaaandaan? Her being an orphan would still be the same thing...a person with no NKK...so I don't think that changes anything...Shivaay already knows all this and has already openly shown how much he needs her.


I'm not sure if the issue is about his feelings not being deep enough to change his beliefs...I think he hasn't really been tested yet to that extent for the full depth of his feelings to come through...that will only happen if he feels he's losing her or has lost her and all his shrewd manipulations and blackmails also aren't able to help him keep her by his side...He needs to experience true helplessness to actually realize if/if not he can overcome his belief system.


Also, it needs the right set of circumstances in terms of him getting to know more about her, actually seeing the world that she's lived in more up close to get some perspective...aisa nahin hai ki he will overnight stop considering NKK important...his belief system needs to be reconciled with his love for Anika...that is what remains to be seen.


I'm also beyond tired and bored of this lame wedding track and I'm waiting to see if the story shifts pace to NKK after this...otherwise this limbo mode isn't going to work.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: -Khush-

Thanks for the link girl--- watched it! Actually liked the scene pretty well! It also highlighted how people in this 20-30 age bracket feel as he put it--- everything seems to be a struggle, we get hell bent to prove the world wrong and when that happens we see that these roadblocks were just a stop sign in the journey! Lol at him saying how O complicates such stuff with shayaris... How I wanted to hear one :( oh well - some good musings abt life 😆



LOL even I wondered for a second if Om will do some shaayari there...this is the first time since DBO started ki thoda bahut normal Om dekhne ko milaa...but shaayari seems MIA for now...I guess his pativrata patni Gauri will inspire him to do shaayari again. 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#33
Timely post & very well reasoned out points.

Only one thing I have to add...the mother of children dialogue was a practical one & I honestly don't see what's so offensive about it.😕 Leaving aside everything...incl the childish jealousy games & Shivaay's hypocrisy. It's only fair to Anika that he's at least being transparent & honest wrt. his feelings about the situation.

He wants to be a romantic but he knows he can't be one. Tough dilemma for Billu.😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: iProprioceptor

Timely post & very well reasoned out points.

Only one thing I have to add...the mother of children dialogue was a practical one & I honestly don't see what's so offensive about it.😕 Leaving aside everything...incl the childish jealousy games & Shivaay's hypocrisy. It's only fair to Anika that he's at least being transparent & honest wrt. his feelings about the situation.

He wants to be a romantic but he knows he can't be one. Tough dilemma for Billu.😆


but shouldnt he be honest with anika about it too and not just Om? if there is no future, just let her go, she was walking away from him a week ago right, why didnt he let her?
he is clearly manipulating her and doesnt care about her feelings while everything has to be as per what he wants😆

no issues with the dialogue either, just the timing of the two shows is mumbled jumbled up now 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#35
Err... did I miss something in the show today? This is not about the episode is it?!! Why am I always missing out on things!?
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Posted: 8 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: PurplePantsuit

Err... did I miss something in the show today? This is not about the episode is it?!! Why am I always missing out on things!?


hahaha dear! watch dbo ka obro scene - everything will make sense. basically shivaay accepted he has feelings for anika but nkk came back - one of his dialogues really stung the fandom - i cant see her as mother my children and all 😉😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: PurplePantsuit

Err... did I miss something in the show today? This is not about the episode is it?!! Why am I always missing out on things!?


The scene was in DBO, not IB, so that's probably why...Shivaay just popped outta nowhere at a train station just before he had this "heart to heart" with Om😆😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: ThithliDhost


When he is very clear that there is no future , why play farak farak? Why give the girl hopes for a future together? Why chase her down, just to throw the NKK at her face?

She is willing to let go of this relationship. She is willing to give him his freedom back.. Why hold her back, especially when u know u will never accept her and will have no future with her ?

Why take away the chance of a future from Annika?
Annika will never be good enough for him. What more can she do to make him overcome his NKK? And why should she?

Annika (KKT) was very upset that she could not give him children. Agree, may be this was all a play act by Annika but still , Shivaay cannot take away the Khushi of motherhood from her .. May be it is not imp to him, if he never has children, but what about her?

SSO is being very cruel. He is once again deciding for her.. Being selfish. He is just playing with her emotions.. SAD!!!


Still don't know what this is about but read through the first page of comments in this post. (It's exhausting going through your posts, AY, I tell you!)

Very short comment on this one: Shivaay can THINK that he is deciding for her. But ultimately, Anika does what she chooses to do, no?

The only place/time that he had her mentally tied up was that mad rush of Boom. There he was Machiavellian, deliberate, focussed in his planning and attack. She had no space and time to think that Shivaay Singh Oberoi can never ever kill anyone -- if for nothing else but the disaster that it would be for his firm and his family, if he did.

Right now, though? I think she knows that he won't do a thing to hurt her, really. Not after, as he said, _everything_ that they have done for each other. Example, her response to his looking for his beloved 'chaku'.

Now, he will not do anything. She also knows that he is in a real bind about her. How can she not? It would take a blind AND deaf person to not be aware of the self-torture that he put on display in front of her, so many times. And she is neither blind nor deaf. And even if she was, her Shivaay sensors would pick it up! 😆

I am convinced that she is staying because her heart wants to. She _wants_ to.

The question is how long is she going to stay for him, and tolerate the incredible amount of hate that she gets from his mother. She knows that she will always have the love of the rest of the family (those that matter anyway). She doesn't have to be in Shivaay's house to get it. But in his house, there is constant friction of the village idiot.

Interesting story. Quite grown up. Still want to watch it.

If ONLY they could tone down the pre-historic saas-bahu loudness of the episodes!

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Posted: 8 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: NYCForever


hahaha dear! watch dbo ka obro scene - everything will make sense. basically shivaay accepted he has feelings for anika but nkk came back - one of his dialogues really stung the fandom - i cant see her as mother my children and all 😉😆



Originally posted by: Noteworthy


The scene was in DBO, not IB, so that's probably why...Shivaay just popped outta nowhere at a train station just before he had this "heart to heart" with Om😆😆


Huh. DBO == Dil Bole Oberoi? I have to watch that too?? Darnit.

😆

Okay. Will go watch.

Apologies if my response to ThithliDhost's post was completely stupid.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#40
I have no problem with track nor his beliefs. Some ppl want to stick to certain beliefs even if goes against their personal wish. But what he expects from anika. Just be around him till he gets bloodline wali wife? Why doesnt he tell this to anika. To maintain the same bloodline he will have to marry someone in future. Tab tak anika be with him without any real relationship?!!
What is the fark drama. I hope fark drama is because he found out memory loss is fake and this is some twisted way to make her to confess its fake.
But i keep oscillating between thinking its fake or real. Yday episode anika almost exposed shivaay's necklace chori.😆😕


Also the inconsistencies which scenes are relevant to story line and which were added for trp or to fool fans.😆 shayad scene by scene dekhna hoga without connecting with other scenes.😆

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