What is an ABLA NAARI? POV on Why Anika Is NO Abla Naari![VB :pg 12] - Page 3

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Posted: 8 years ago
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I have a few questions that I need answers to.

1) Even if Om is wrong and a liar and a traitor of all sorts, how does that make Anika right?



2) For a woman who kept harping about her khuddari and atmasamman, how can she put up being insulted every now and then?



3) For the girl who told Richa that marriages which aren't done with your heart is a facde, why does she wants to stay in the same?



4) For someone who has always lived clawing her way into the life, why does she suddenly need a man to protect her?



5) For a woman who claimed she is used to fighting it back why is she taking things lying down from shit like Tia??


My question is how can anyone fall for a man who brought a woman to her lowest? Just because he is the good looking lead? For Anika, Sindoor and mangalsutra hold a lot of importance, are you trying to tell me that it is more important than one' self respect and dignity? Just because Shivaay will feel guilty tomorrow, Anika should forget it all and be the quintessential Mahaan Bahu? Is that it? Is that all left being a woman? Marriage is a big decision in one's life, yes, but it isn't that big that one will give up on one's self respect. Vermillion and Mangalsutra hold importance but should throw them away when they begin questioning your identity.



And Om is not even involved here. If he is wrong, then that doesn't escalte Anika into being right. Anika is a weakling who harps a lot and does nothing to substantiate her claims. Om might be a contradicting loony but atleast he can take a stand when required. Anika had options to herself yet she chose to suffer. That doesn't make her strong, that make a her stupid. And stupidity doesn't take to greater heights, it just pushes you down.



P.S. If you ask me then Shivika marriage is a milder version of the bogus proposal of a marriage that a rapist gives to the victim so easily playing with the integrity of a human!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: AngelicTomboy

@Bold - There is a difference between attempting suicide and trying to get away from the pain. I am not supporting Om in this. Am just giving a point here..

@Bold - Refusing to sleep in the same room doesn't mean giving back. And she did cry after the wedding. I think it must have skipped ut mind but she did cry hugging Sahil

@Bold - The first few episodes showed how as strong a character she was. Never taking shit from anyone, standing up for herself, giving takkar to Shivaay by arranging his wedding with the same money he had given her.. And now all she does is stay shut and does nothing other than crying and sulking..

P.S. I still don't know what is Om doing in ur post 😕


Trying to get away from the pain by taking drugs and attempting suicide twice...sorry I don't get the point! 😕

She cried seeing her brother fine...the moment u feel u have lost the most precious person of ur life, and seeing the person all fine some time later...that reaction was but natural...it was not just crying, it was her breakdown of seeing her brother fine and the huge decision she took and all that she had to go through, to save her brother's life!

@Red: I already said, she was arranging his wedding till 2 days back, just been a day...I told this to you yesterday as well and mentioned in the post too, that its been a day as per show's timeline and she can't be showing the Kali Maa avtar people are expecting from her...she is giving back in her own ways and its still very much in Takkar with Shivay! Once she is accustomed to the new place and relations and regains her strength back wen her brother comes, she will give back in a much better way! I don't see her crying everytime so don't agree with the point!

@P.S. : Just like I don't get the point of tagging Anika as an Abla Naari !
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Bang onn!! Neha...kya dhaansu post banaya hai!!!!👏 Love u always for picking the right point.
Nd about Abla Nari... perfectly explained!

Plus most importantly, Always screaming and shouting or hitting each other is not giving back, giving back can be done silently too which is more effective, like Anika does! She is giving back to Shivay with her Silent Treatment...Silence is the biggest weapon you can use on the people you love and who loves hearing you, even though u scream in anger or talk good things, those are the people who would do anything to hear u speak and wen you stop speaking, your silence kills them and drives them crazy! She is killing Shivay by being Indifferent to him! He declares it aloud, in open that he doesn't believe in this marriage and doesn't accept Anika as his wife...and she just says the same thing calmly, and his face becomes worth watching! He cannot bear her silence, her indifferent behavior and her rejection! Yes she is giving it back silently now, giving back with her strong words too...and will give back with more intensity in the coming days by making him realize the truth!

Gul long back said, Anika would refuse to accept the Oberoi Surname...that would be the biggest give back of Anika to Shivay, a hard blow at his Notions of Middle Class Girls marrying rich guys for money and trapping them for their Family Name and Fame!

@bold last night was thinking the same. She is giving it back silently. And especially when a person who talks a lott, suddenly goes in silence nd stop their rants... it becomes difficult for us to digest their silence. Nd that is what is happening nd will happen with Shivaay. He cant take it when she is quiet. Now it will bother him a lott that she isn't even considering him... she will ignore him nd it will kill him nd he will run back of her. Will try to talk to her on the basis of some or the other reason. Nd i will love to see Shivaay trying hard to get her attention.
Exactly...she will not accept his name..nd that will be an indirect salp on his face. Nit one but on both sides. He is arrogant nd proud about being an Oberoi. Nd thinks that everyone r dying for this name, power, fame, nd money. He thinks that only deserved people get this. So when she denies to join the "Oberoi" with her name..half of his arrogance will surely get cracked... ready to break any time. He will understand that being an Oberoi is not the only thing the whole world wants. He will see the true independance in her. He will see that she believes in creating a name of her own, through her hard work.
Amd once she achieves her goal, that day his arrogance will break.
Nd she will stand high in his eyes. And his thoughts regarding middle class marrying rich men for money will surely change. Nd he will too understand that Anika too was never one of them.

Yes! She will stay with him... nd will sooon throw her sautan out.
Anika's character is one of the best shaped characters as a female lead. Nd i love her character.
The sherni is silent now. It is wounded. As the wound heals slowly she will emerge more stronger than ever.

Once again beautiful post.👏
My rant is too over...
Waiting for the story to move forward in a better way.

Love Sharmi
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: poemssyndrome

See I have been pretty considerate about the points you have mentioned here. I understand what Anika is going through. I understand that it has been just 2 days since what happened with her happened.
But the problem I have with her is somewhere in her mind she still is clinging to the hope that Shivaay will respect her & their relationship. I don't have a problem with it. She is a normal girl with normal dreams & she has all the rights to have hopes.
It's just that he is a dumb brute & when he will disappoint her like he always does she will be shattered.
I just don't want her to forget what he did to her just bcoz he feels guilty & melted like wax. She needs to take a stand. She needs to stop getting directed by the Oberois & decide what she wants for her life like she always have.
I don't think she is a Abla Naari, I just fear she will turn into one.


Lastly Marriage is a beautiful bond two people share. But one thing that any marriage needs to function properly is respect. And I truely believe that instead of staying at a place where you are not respected, walking away is a better choice.




Anika is not clinging to any hope coz she has already said it aloud that she doesn't believe in this forceful marriage neither she accepts it...even if she has a hope, like u said, any normal girl would have...I gave enough reasons why she would want to save this marriage even if she says she doesn't believe in it!

Yes he would initially disappoint her...but he will realize too...he gives her divorce papers and stops her too...he doesn't let anyone point a finger at Anika by declaring he was the one to ask her to take Tia's place...he is very much confused and there is a battle between heart and mind!

She will take a stand I believe...once she regains her strength she will...by not accepting the Oberoi Surname she will ! She needs to be given time I believe!

As for respect...she has been brought into this house after she respectfully walked out...the eldest member of the house stopping her from leaving everytime and elders of the house asking her to do the rituals instead of the 'declared-DIL' is respect !
Respect is wat Tia is losing everyday, every moment by staying in the house without a marriage and still wanting to do the rituals even after being denied of it!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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bang on post neha
love u for this
what all u pointed are absolutely true
anika koyi abla vabla nari nahi hai she is strong a fighter woman
fighter woman ki yeh matlab nahi hai she will have to fight with other always 😆 ladako ladki bolaki tab log usseh .anika does believe in the institution marriage like any other indian girl so i don't see what is her fault in wearing MS and sindoor .yaar bina koyi wajah seh iam not getting why all r bashing anika .she is still fighting back abhi is totally broken because she never expected that shivaay will blackmail her threatened her to take her lil brothers life whom she love like anything and that blast all these have gr8 infact so naturally any normal person will be shattered agar woh readilly next fight karna i mean back to old self doing all things i will tell she is not human out of world alien hai .and anika our sherni is slowly returning back kal ki episode the way she showed tia her place asking her to go to her real sasural and all wasn't she our anika .kabhi kabhi khamooshi bhi kaam karthi hai guys SSO keliyeh thisis the best treatment ignore him he will become totally crazy because of her ignorance .and iam sure tia anika ko uski jagah dikani ki khoshish khud expose jayega .i really wish this tia get exposed soon get the hell out of OM
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

Annika was shown as a very strong person. Therefore in the current situation you would expect her to stand strong and demand respect from Shivaay and the Oberois. She is living in Shivaay's house, fighting for her Sindoor rights when Shivaay himself has introduced another woman as his wife to society. Yes, she loves him. But he doesn't respect her. NO relationship can survive without respect. There is no point "hanging on" and asking to be given respect as his wife when he just used her.


As for Om, I dont understand why HE has to be brought into an issue of Annika being an Abala Nari or not? People are talking of Self respect here. Om's issues have nothing to do with self-respect. He is a product of a dysfunctional marriage. It is easy to judge someone, but the fact remains that a person can be traumatized by their parent's relationship, by his father's mistress being thrown in their faces. It can drive someone easily to depression.I know a guy who had a similar situation to Om. He actually did drugs for awhile too. He's fine now, but in his early 20's he went through a lot of angst. Different people have different circumstances and ways of dealing with it. Some people are over sensitive, so find it harder to handle conflict. Om is damaged. As for hiding the truth of the accident with Priyanka, he has clearly suffered for it, because it is contrary to his nature. The guilt drove him to drugs. It DOES happen to people in real life too. What they have shown is realistic. If Shivaay can behave in a borderline criminal way for his love of family and family name, why can't Om do the same for his sister? Why is it Raas Leela for Shivaay and Character Dheela for Om? Why bring him into a topic that had no relevance to Annika at all? The two characters and their situations are not comparable in any way.


Not just in India, but in other parts of the world also girls/ women will not let go of their marriage easily. But neither should a woman denounce her self-respect totally so she can save her marriage. Because in the end you will loose yourself! Once you lose yourself there is nothing left. Married or not!



@Bold: That's wat she is doing, standing strong, not backing off even wen he introduced Tia as his wife coz she doesn't give any importance to his rants on Naam Khoon and Khandaan!

I already mentioned a couple of times, but saying again that she kept her self respect intact by leaving his house immediately after Muh-Dikhayi...he had to come and ask her to come back...she again left his room and he had to come and ask her to get inside the room...she will walk out wen he gives her divorce papers and he himself will stop her...so her self respect is gone nowhere and he is everytime back tracking on his own words ! The guy is losing respect and not Anika! His whole family is looking down upon him including his own mother who supports Tia over Anika!

Om had to be brought coz of the label of Abla Naari given to Anika...and in the show, I do not find another best example of an Abla Mard from the leads! Depression is one thing, but wen Om is put on such a high pedestal of being a follower of truth, the person who can go against his own family for siding by truth, but has done nothing substantial till now in the show to prove his claims, why is so much expected from Anika wen she is actually fighting and not running away, taking drugs or trying to jump off a cliff? Even if we agree that he attempted suicide coz of depression, hiding such a big truth, actually a crime from the world and throwing out a gf from a long live-in-relationship without giving her a chance to speak is no Mardaangi imo!

I would myself come up with a post wen I see Anika being a doormat and losing a self respect and losing herself for this relationship...as of now, I see her fighting for the right...hence no Abla Naari or no character assassination in my pov!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bsangama

Great piece of analysis on Anika .
I totally agree Anika is not abla she is tolerating the hard things that life is throwing on to her .
Let's see what lies in future for her she is fighter hope she rise and give it back to sso and walk with dignity


She is tolerating and also, fighting for the right :) Exactly, she will rise and walk with dignity and SSO will be the one dying with the guilt of how wrong he had been with her, for a misunderstanding that he actually never tried to resolve !

Even Anika's slap could not make him realize how wrong he was in thinking that about her, and I forgot to mention the slap but that was one more stand she took for herself, the moment Shivay uttered those disgusting words against her!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Crazy4Mayur


Anika is not clinging to any hope coz she has already said it aloud that she doesn't believe in this forceful marriage neither she accepts it...even if she has a hope, like u said, any normal girl would have...I gave enough reasons why she would want to save this marriage even if she says she doesn't believe in it!

Yes he would initially disappoint her...but he will realize too...he gives her divorce papers and stops her too...he doesn't let anyone point a finger at Anika by declaring he was the one to ask her to take Tia's place...he is very much confused and there is a battle between heart and mind!

She will take a stand I believe...once she regains her strength she will...by not accepting the Oberoi Surname she will ! She needs to be given time I believe!

As for respect...she has been brought into this house after she respectfully walked out...the eldest member of the house stopping her from leaving everytime and elders of the house asking her to do the rituals instead of the 'declared-DIL' is respect !
Respect is wat Tia is losing everyday, every moment by staying in the house without a marriage and still wanting to do the rituals even after being denied of it!

There are no two views in the fact that the elders in the Oberoi mansion respect her. She came for Dadi & like I said I get it. I understand everything about her inclination towards following Dadi's will.
The thing here, buddy is the fact that she is not married to these elders. She is married to Shivaay Singh Oberoi, who definitely doesnot respect her. Staying with him, trying or expecting to have a relationship with him, or feeling sad when he declares that he has nothing to do with her is where I feel Anika should modify her steps. I probably hope ( and hope is the word here) she does that when everything going on sinks in her mind well & she understands where she stand.
Again I might seem absolutely practical over here when I say this but when you cannot give up on the things that connect you to a man( whatever it is in you religion- wedding rings, mangalsutra, sindoor, bangles) you are subconsciously hoping something from that marriage.
And about Tia, I like that Anika is being indifferent here. Tia obstructed her path twice & it took her lot of provoking to get a reaction from Anika. I just hope Anika behaves like that towards Shivaay too. Because no matter what he deserves everything karma is gonna throw at him now onwards.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: lucky_princess

Bang onn!! Neha...kya dhaansu post banaya hai!!!!👏 Love u always for picking the right point.

Nd about Abla Nari... perfectly explained!

Plus most importantly, Always screaming and shouting or hitting each other is not giving back, giving back can be done silently too which is more effective, like Anika does! She is giving back to Shivay with her Silent Treatment...Silence is the biggest weapon you can use on the people you love and who loves hearing you, even though u scream in anger or talk good things, those are the people who would do anything to hear u speak and wen you stop speaking, your silence kills them and drives them crazy! She is killing Shivay by being Indifferent to him! He declares it aloud, in open that he doesn't believe in this marriage and doesn't accept Anika as his wife...and she just says the same thing calmly, and his face becomes worth watching! He cannot bear her silence, her indifferent behavior and her rejection! Yes she is giving it back silently now, giving back with her strong words too...and will give back with more intensity in the coming days by making him realize the truth!

Gul long back said, Anika would refuse to accept the Oberoi Surname...that would be the biggest give back of Anika to Shivay, a hard blow at his Notions of Middle Class Girls marrying rich guys for money and trapping them for their Family Name and Fame!

@bold last night was thinking the same. She is giving it back silently. And especially when a person who talks a lott, suddenly goes in silence nd stop their rants... it becomes difficult for us to digest their silence. Nd that is what is happening nd will happen with Shivaay. He cant take it when she is quiet. Now it will bother him a lott that she isn't even considering him... she will ignore him nd it will kill him nd he will run back of her. Will try to talk to her on the basis of some or the other reason. Nd i will love to see Shivaay trying hard to get her attention.
Exactly...she will not accept his name..nd that will be an indirect salp on his face. Nit one but on both sides. He is arrogant nd proud about being an Oberoi. Nd thinks that everyone r dying for this name, power, fame, nd money. He thinks that only deserved people get this. So when she denies to join the "Oberoi" with her name..half of his arrogance will surely get cracked... ready to break any time. He will understand that being an Oberoi is not the only thing the whole world wants. He will see the true independance in her. He will see that she believes in creating a name of her own, through her hard work.
Amd once she achieves her goal, that day his arrogance will break.
Nd she will stand high in his eyes. And his thoughts regarding middle class marrying rich men for money will surely change. Nd he will too understand that Anika too was never one of them.

Yes! She will stay with him... nd will sooon throw her sautan out.
Anika's character is one of the best shaped characters as a female lead. Nd i love her character.
The sherni is silent now. It is wounded. As the wound heals slowly she will emerge more stronger than ever.

Once again beautiful post.👏
My rant is too over...
Waiting for the story to move forward in a better way.

Love Sharmi



Thanks Sharmi 🤗

I would seriously want to see a day wen Anika stops talking at all, goes mute for a day and Shivay goes crazy trying to make her speak...her silence has a greater effect than his harsh words !

I am really waiting for wen Tia would be exposed and Shivay would want to declare Anika as his wife but she would refuse...and refuse his surname, n like Gul said, start her own work leaving the grand Oberoi business and Surname...to make a name and identity for herself!

However much he would hate her guts, but somewhere deep down, he admires her guts, her independent nature, honesty and her self respecting behavior! That is why wen Daksh misunderstanding started, he hit her with words like khuddari, imaandaari and independence!
He will love her for who she is and as she is...that would be his acceptance and transformation !

Loved ur rant too😆 and Anika is the calm before the storm as of now, one wrong thing that Shivay may do to her now would bring the same Sherni out 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

Annika was shown as a very strong person. Therefore in the current situation you would expect her to stand strong and demand respect from Shivaay and the Oberois. She is living in Shivaay's house, fighting for her Sindoor rights when Shivaay himself has introduced another woman as his wife to society. Yes, she loves him. But he doesn't respect her. NO relationship can survive without respect. There is no point "hanging on" and asking to be given respect as his wife when he just used her.


As for Om, I dont understand why HE has to be brought into an issue of Annika being an Abala Nari or not? People are talking of Self respect here. Om's issues have nothing to do with self-respect. He is a product of a dysfunctional marriage. It is easy to judge someone, but the fact remains that a person can be traumatized by their parent's relationship, by his father's mistress being thrown in their faces. It can drive someone easily to depression.I know a guy who had a similar situation to Om. He actually did drugs for awhile too. He's fine now, but in his early 20's he went through a lot of angst. Different people have different circumstances and ways of dealing with it. Some people are over sensitive, so find it harder to handle conflict. Om is damaged. As for hiding the truth of the accident with Priyanka, he has clearly suffered for it, because it is contrary to his nature. The guilt drove him to drugs. It DOES happen to people in real life too. What they have shown is realistic. If Shivaay can behave in a borderline criminal way for his love of family and family name, why can't Om do the same for his sister? Why is it Raas Leela for Shivaay and Character Dheela for Om? Why bring him into a topic that had no relevance to Annika at all? The two characters and their situations are not comparable in any way.


Not just in India, but in other parts of the world also girls/ women will not let go of their marriage easily. But neither should a woman denounce her self-respect totally so she can save her marriage. Because in the end you will loose yourself! Once you lose yourself there is nothing left. Married or not!


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