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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: richa1792


This isn't Annika vs Shivaay. If Annika takes no action against him and she clings to her fake Sindoor and Mangalsutra, then she is idiotic as well. That was my whole point.

Gul showing that all this is normal, that it is okay. Annika was supposed to be independent and nayi soch and not believe in love. Suddenly she can't let go of force wala shaadi and sindoor. Om is supposed to be righteous and stand for truth, even if his family is in the wrong. But he is supporting Prinku in the crime that they committed. This is character assassination.

Gul cannot decide on a path. But this is her creative baby and okay, she can do what she wants with it. All we are asking for is not showing us things which are clearly wrong and then justify them. That is all.

As for the Shivika essence, I think any relationship, be it Shivika or Rumya or Om-whoever should be based on mutual respect and love and trust. Not abuse. Even if it is verbal or mental or physical. That is all.

I just don't understand, have you taken my words seriously of being an advocate here ???

Girl this is fiction.. if gul had intentions of defining what is crime and abuse and torture she would have probably produced SAVADHAN INDIA and CRIME PETROL and not romantic series..

I don't ANYBODY... NOT A SINGLE person is going to be a criminal after watching this... You wasting your time here and your friends tutoring us on CRIME and ABUSE will not put Shivaay behind bars or shut the show down.. people who watch it are still gonna continue doing it.. drool over his eyes, cry when anika/Shivaay cries, dance when they romance and discuss about everything they do... defining and redefining CRIME and ABUSE will not change the fact that Entertainment is a different world all together and Real life and REEL life walk parallel...
just like suddenly let go of a force wala shaadi... in the same way she cannot suddenly make two characters fall in love just like that.. but that happens in shows na? why not teach her the PROCESS OF FALLING IN LOVE then? Somethings are only for show business and let it stay there..because you law knowledge will neither change the world nor the show and the same people pointing out the criminal in Shivaay, the same people are gonna watch Shivaay romancing anika - wo bhi aakehne bhaad phaad ke... whats the use of all this? only one thing - i.e. My post is just crossing heights 😆
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And if at all anybody is learning how to be a criminal from the actions Shivaay just did ...please police me complain karo.. mere koi advocate nai hu..I am a researcher yaar 😛😛
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Posted: 8 years ago
I guess you are out of points, is that the reason you are mocking me and getting personal?
As you are a researcher, try researching the theory about 'life imitating art.'

Also, it's good to know that romantic series=abuse. That must really work out for you.

My 'friends' and I (though I don't know a single one of them) wont stop educating people or 'advocating' as you say, just because you personally are taking a guarantee that there will be no ill effects from this mentality. Because that is the first step. Educating people.

You know, there is a reason there are literary critics and theories all over the world trying to study poetry and fiction. They study them from Marxist perspective or a feminist perspective. Because literature of any age is a mirror to the society of that age. So, no. This isn't just fiction. But hey, what do I know? I am just a silly girl advocating here.

Just because I am putting forth my point of view, respectfully I might add, does not mean I am preachy or a lawyer.

But anyway, I wasn't trying to change your mind. I was putting forward my views. If you can't take that without getting personal, this is bye from me.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Anjum.

I call things like I see them. That's how I am. If someone violates another person, it's wrong no matter how desperate they are. This applies to both men and women, as it should.

I respect everyone's right to their opinion, and I don't make thing's personal. Not my style.
When people say "it's fiction", what they're implying is that fiction has no impact on our mentality, when it clearly does, hence the "at least he didn't go so far as raping" sentiment. I honestly cannot believe that anyone would say that. I've also seen a comment that "at least he threw her on a clean bedsheet". In what world does that make it okay to violate another human being?
Finally, I'm not one to shove my "opinion" down another person's throat. But when it comes to facts and giving people a reality check, I will when the alternative is to allow people to remain in their own bubble where abuse in a relationship is excusable as long as the people are in love. This only perpetuates the idea, and that is dangerous.
Seeing the discussion above, I'm genuinely worried that if one of you (God forbid) has abuse staring you in the face, you will misinterpret it as "passionate love".



I had really hoped I didn't have to reply to you but unfortunately I do coz of your "its fiction" statement...I felt it was referring to me since I replied to your comment using that specific word...everyone is different and not necessarily will take fiction so seriously..but yes you are right some people do and my comment was not to put them down..And please don't worry about us as I think most of us here can tell the difference between fiction vs reality and abuse vs. passionate love..and one more thing you are right in your opinion and I respect that...so hopefully we won't have to reply to each other in future 😊
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: richa1792

I guess you are out of points, is that the reason you are mocking me and getting personal?

As you are a researcher, try researching the theory about 'life imitating art.'

Also, it's good to know that romantic series=abuse. That must really work out for you.

My 'friends' and I (though I don't know a single one of them) wont stop educating people or 'advocating' as you say, just because you personally are taking a guarantee that there will be no ill effects from this mentality. Because that is the first step. Educating people.

You know, there is a reason there are literary critics and theories all over the world trying to study poetry and fiction. They study them from Marxist perspective or a feminist perspective. Because literature of any age is a mirror to the society of that age. So, no. This isn't just fiction. But hey, what do I know? I am just a silly girl advocating here.

Just because I am putting forth my point of view, respectfully I might add, does not mean I am preachy or a lawyer.

But anyway, I wasn't trying to change your mind. I was putting forward my views. If you can't take that without getting personal, this is bye from me.


You see there was NO "FEMINSIM" being discussed here in my post before you and the a few like you who are EDUCATING us here -started with it.. we enjoyed , we watched, we discussed and we posted - story ends, its not me who is making it personal because at the very beginning I have made it quite CLEAR, this is Shivaays POV and I personally felt HIS ACTION WAS WRONG BUT NOT HIS REACTION and I have been talking about that in my entire post... I haven't talked about his manhandling , yes I did say RAPE was an inappropriate word being used - girl don't make this a mess here.. you are already talking out of topic and cleary you haven't read my post, because if you had, you would have not been here Educating me or others ABOUT CRIME and ABUSE!

but yes educating people is a good job and you should carry on.. but where it is needed.. here we are enjoying plain entertainment and yes we will continue enjoying it.. WE understand Fiction and Reality to be poles apart and I would say.. lets keep it that way..

your points were never wrong but this is not the write place for your class - You are at the wrong forum or the wrong thread ! I hope we don't need to continue with this , because you have your thoughts and I have mine and they don't match.. so truce !
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: pritzz


Exactly. You understand it. You understand that this is fiction and should not be spilled into real lives. But there are billions of people in our country. Not everyone will understand it. Gul has created a product for our consumption and she has to make sure that it does not harm the public. Who is to say way other people take from such mentality?

I will not go into the debate about feminism with you as it seems your ideas and mine are different regarding that. Also, my class is now officially over.

Peace out.

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Posted: 8 years ago
pritzz what a reality check it was...anyways nice post hmm❤️
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: misspinkun

pritzz what a reality check it was...anyways nice post hmm❤️


Thank you 🥱🥱😳
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Posted: 8 years ago
I understand ur point that his ACTIONS were wrong not REACTION and he was in his true character but for once think if someone would have done exactly these things with u could u still fall in love with him?
NO! Never!
In real life we can never fall in love with a person like this,
But this is a show and we know ShivIka are gonna fall in love. So my point is GUL is giving wrong msg to everyone. She loves voilence! I have seen her obsession with voilence in QH.
This is not #nayisoch!
I respect ur POV and I totally agree that Shivay was NOT out of his character but at the same I didn't like what he did and said to Anika!
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Shobhna.jha

I understand ur point that his ACTIONS were wrong not REACTION and he was in his true character but for once think if someone would have done exactly these things with u could u still fall in love with him?
NO! Never!
In real life we can never fall in love with a person like this,
But this is a show and we know ShivIka are gonna fall in love. So my point is GUL is giving wrong msg to everyone. She loves voilence! I have seen her obsession with voilence in QH.
This is not #nayisoch!
I respect ur POV and I totally agree that Shivay was NOT out of his character but at the same I didn't like what he did and said to Anika!


I understand your point too and I 'do not' disagree with that...at all!

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