About SSO and OUR Double Standars- Lets Flip our Thoughts - Page 14

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: NYCForever

hahhaha pritzzz i was missing your posts!

and what a comeback post 👏

as i have been saying in a few of my comments, i have no problem with the track and the way things shaped up but i do have a problem with the way gul and her writers are over glorifying this as if they wrote a master piece or something! her insta comments didnt sit well with me but as Khushi aptly pointed out, may be she is just building it up as she knows the fans are hyper, so, yes, i will believe that!

coming to the epi- i agree and have said this before - Anika is too meddlesome! she falloows raita but never smetoos it 😆 and thats exactly what she did with that pravchan yesterday! for some reason, no one found it annoying but i did - i was totally with sso when he told her to shut up and stop questioning every decision of his! didnt like the manhandling part but she did bring it upon her!

yeah, read a few comments on rape and those equally confused me! he doesnt have it in him to do it, he is ruthless with his words and eyes (haaye what eyes those are)! i think people correlated it to the pool scene and came up with that conclusion - not sure what happened in the pool scene (have seen it but in VMs etc as i was not watching the show back then)

all in all, i am liking the drama! but @are yaar, gives such a comic spin to things that i saw some scenes as comedy as well 😆😉



@NYC 😳😳😳 I am so happy someone did 😆🤗
#bold 2 aaja lag ja gale mujhse... kyuki mujhe bhi bada hain? laga tha! 😕 aise bol rai thi jaise shaadi ka 10 saalo se experience ho.. bhai uske dialogue pe jo hassiii 🤣 richa ko Stephany bol diya... or ab khud Stephany ban gayi par kyuki heroine hai to tranformers part 100 hoga or wo chakka i.e wheel ban jayegi 🤣

arey pool scene was angry romance 😆😆😆
and parso ka episode was nowhere near romance yaar it was pure dominance and gussa villain wala gussa




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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: vivacious_gurl


Lady u hv got it sooo wrong... What is right for someone Amy be totally wrong for someone else... Anika gave the right advice as per her... Did she even think for a second why Shivaay has done what he has done... No she can't... Coz Frankly uski haisiyat hi nahi hai toh understand the magnitude of impact the run away bride can do to his family and reputation... Coz she herself has no family name to protect...

Shivaay had done what he cud hv best done in that situation... If at all anika shud hv thot about the man and his family... Instead thinking about that girl... Yes that girl called for help... Even if she said she will die rather than marry like this... Well well lady u agreed n hence u hv the contract in hand... Shivaay had not forced that richa... Anika had no business meddling in his affairs... Yes she did tell herself she shudnt meddle... But meddle she did in the end.. Whatever the reason...

I don't condone violence in any form... So anika slapping Shivaay was as much wrong as was Shivaay's physical abuse...

When Shivaay has done no mistake in past Anika has thrown dung at his car... Even in temple.. Anika wasn't in queue... Shivaay went in vvip style n did his puja... But no anika has to interfere n break his car's windshield... She has always taken panja even when not needed... N she has accepted that to sahil in past that it was her mistake...

Anika has always been interfering about what she thinks is right... She doesnt understand what is right for her may be extremely wrong for someone else as the situations for two ppl can nvr be the same...

What she faced from. Shivaay was burnt of her own doing... A guy on verge on destruction did what he knew wud help stop that destruction... Anika ne raita phailaya toh sametna usse hi padega... Im kot justifying him using sahil or his man handling her... But then her slapping him also wasn't justified... Her giving advice to someone with whom he had a deal to save his family's reputation also wasn't justified...


I don't know how to explain this, but what Shivaay did was a crime. A criminal activity. It makes him a criminal. My ideology might be different from yours but I don't think you are supposed to see a crime as subjective. Even a crime of passion is a crime. It is wrong. I have said it before and I'll say it again. Doing the honorable thing is not interference. Someone asks for help, you help them. Simple as that.

As for Annika's aukaad, I don't think you have to be a billionaire to have basic human decency. In fact, if anything, the show proves that the more money they have, the more they forget honor. Be it Om and his hiding of a crime or Shivaay and his actions.

On other note, I agree with you regarding Annika slapping Shivaay. Violence is wrong, no matter who propagates it.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Damn Prithu your post looks like World War III zone as read thru comments here 🤣
But I totally agree with you regarding SSO and much needed explanation...I would make my own post and do the same exact thing you and Geetu did 😳 As you both know I am busy with exam so won't be able to do it But here I am writing my own opinion and I would be really thankful if people can stay away from my comment if they can't support it 😆 Damn this disclaimer should have been on the top but nevermind hopefully they get the point 😆

I loved loved Shivaay in last 2 episodes just because his character was kept so intact...yes he manhandled her, pushed her, threatened her but what do you expect from him for whom khoon, khandan has always been the number 1 priority from day 1...he was wrong and he has never been purely right anyways so I wasn't expecting anything else...If he was wrong, Anika was wrong too by deciding the matter for him...it was none of her business to interfere in his matter...just on a side note everyone knows here how much I love both Anika and Shivaay and feminists please stay away from my comment...please...both were at fault so why only Shivaay gets all the bashing is my concern...his reaction was not appropriate but it was normal human reaction to Behave like that...when it comes to Family, some people will do anything and everything to protect their reputation so in this case I am with Shivaay...he manhadled her yes, he torrured her yes but he didn't beat her up or rape her...had Anika not got involved in all this, she wouldn't have to go thru all that stuff everyone is talking about...both have their natural reaction to the situation and that's it...If we have been watching Gul"s show, it is just another usual thing you will notice in male lead...they will always be shown manhandling female lead..so nothing new here 😆 I don't want to give long speech here..in short i loved your post and Shivaay and thank you for posting it 😳

Disclaimer: to those who don't like my comment, if you can't agree with my comment, then please stay away from it as that will save you and myself time and energy which is very much needed to come to this forum nowadays 🤣
Edited by Frozen.K - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Frozen.K

Damn Prithu your post looks like World War III zone as read thru comments here 🤣
But I totally agree with you regarding SSO and much needed explanation...I would make my own post and do the same exact thing you and Geetu did 😳 As you both know I am busy with exam so won't be able to do it But here I am writing my own opinion and I would be really thankful if people can stay away from my comment if they can't support it 😆 Damn this disclaimer should have been on the top but nevermind hopefully they get the point 😆

I loved loved Shivaay in last 2 episodes just because his character was kept so intact...yes he manhandled her, pushed her, threatened her but what do you expect from him for whom khoon, khandan has always been the number 1 priority from day 1...he was wrong and he has never been purely right anyways so I wasn't expecting anything else...If he was wrong, Anika was wrong too by deciding the matter for him...it was none of her business to interfere in his matter...just on a side note everyone knows here how much I love both Anika and Shivaay and feminists please stay away from my comment...please...both were at fault so why only Shivaay gets all the bashing is my concern...his reaction was not appropriate but it was normal human reaction to Behave like that...when it comes to Family, some people will do anything and everything to protect their reputation so in this case I am with Shivaay...he manhadled her yes, he torrured her yes but he didn't beat her up or rape her...had Anika not got involved in all this, she wouldn't have to go thru all that stuff everyone is talking about...both have their natural reaction to the situation and that's it...If we have been watching Gul"s show, it is just another usual thing you will notice in male lead...they will always be shown manhandling female lead..so nothing new here 😆 I don't want to give long speech here..in short i loved your post and Shivaay and thank you for posting it 😳

Disclaimer: to those who don't like my comment, if you can't agree with my comment, then please stay away from it as that will save you and myself time and energy which is very much needed to come to this forum nowadays 🤣


I'm sorry but I have to comment on this post, despite you asking people to stay away. I want to remind everyone here that if someone puts their hands on you when you do not want them to, that is assault and you have every right to defend yourself against them. No one has any right on your body but you. If someone grabs you, you can defend yourself and you can also press charges against that person.
What Shivaay did was a CRIME. Annika slapping Shivaay was also a CRIME. But one crime does not justify the other. And surely, a crime cannot be excused simply because it did not reach the level of rape.
That's all I'm gonna say here.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Anjum.


I'm sorry but I have to comment on this post, despite you asking people to stay away. I want to remind everyone here that if someone puts their hands on you when you do not want them to, that is assault and you have every right to defend yourself against them. No one has any right on your body but you. If someone grabs you, you can defend yourself and you can also press charges against that person.
What Shivaay did was a CRIME. Annika slapping Shivaay was also a CRIME. But one crime does not justify the other. And surely, a crime cannot be excused simply because it did not reach the level of rape.
That's all I'm gonna say here.


I think when anika was ok with it and finally ended up hugging the same man.. I don't think us arguing here will send shivaay behind bars.. coz neither Anika wants that nor she will ever do that 😉. Whatever he does we all know Anika has given some right to shivaay and she never his touch as dirty nor she can ever... Harsh ho na ho, rude ho na ho , she has faced his fierce shades and will keep facing them.. coz it's ONLY SHE who can cool him down and for her to learn that she has to know the shades and as much as we know SHIVAAY can never hurt her... so crime is ruled out and so is the slap !
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: pritzz


I think when anika was ok with it and finally ended up hugging the same man.. I don't think us arguing here will send shivaay behind bars.. coz neither Anika wants that nor she will ever do that 😉. Whatever he does we all know Anika has given some right to shivaay and she never his touch as dirty nor she can ever... Harsh ho na ho, rude ho na ho , she has faced his fierce shades and will keep facing them.. coz it's ONLY SHE who can cool him down and for her to learn that she has to know the shades and as much as we know SHIVAAY can never hurt her... so crime is ruled out and so is the slap !


Annika was devastated,. She thought her brother had died. In that situation, you could have Krusty the clown stand infront of her and she would have hugged him. She had just had enough. I don't think she hugged Shivaay because she had tenderness for him. She didn't care who she hugged. Her world was over. What did it matter anymore?

Also, just because someone you know and love does something illegal, does not make it okay. Just because you love them shouldn't mean that you should be okay with their actions. The debate here is not about Shivaay Singh Oberoi. He is not the subject. The subject is showing such misdemeanor on television of a lead hero and making it seem like it is okay. This is the reason that men everywhere are entitled. The reason they think that they only hve to propose to a girl and say bollywood dialogues and she'll say yes. And if she doesn't, they'll just stalk her because it always works in movies. The point here is that we are saying it's enough. Women don't like such behaviour and in real life no matter how bad of a Stockholm syndrome someone has, that does not make it healthy.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: richa1792


Annika was devastated,. She thought her brother had died. In that situation, you could have Krusty the clown stand infront of her and she would have hugged him. She had just had enough. I don't think she hugged Shivaay because she had tenderness for him. She didn't care who she hugged. Her world was over. What did it matter anymore?

Also, just because someone you know and love does something illegal, does not make it okay. Just because you love them shouldn't mean that you should be okay with their actions. The debate here is not about Shivaay Singh Oberoi. He is not the subject. The subject is showing such misdemeanor on television of a lead hero and making it seem like it is okay. This is the reason that men everywhere are entitled. The reason they think that they only hve to propose to a girl and say bollywood dialogues and she'll say yes. And if she doesn't, they'll just stalk her because it always works in movies. The point here is that we are saying it's enough. Women don't like such behaviour and in real life no matter how bad of a Stockholm syndrome someone has, that does not make it healthy.


Agreed whatever you say.. but that's what you think.. here we are not stating our POV's why can't you all understand that, we are pointing out SSO and Anikas Pov here...You tagged him as a criminal and The girl who has gone through all this TORTURE AND ABUSE as we can see.. she is not even able to throw the mangalsutra and rub out the sindoor from her maang... kyu? Bhai she had to wear those because she was threatened of her brother being killed.. if she was sure HE IS THE MONSTER you all are tagging him as.. the first thing after she reached home - throwing away the "Nishani of sso" away from her- that's the least she could do... now please don't say that she is bartiya naari and Uske liye ye sab maiyne rakhta hai... NO .. aaj agar wo pyscho se shaadi karti and pata chalta he is such a cheapo.. she would have destroyed every little part of her skin that he would have touched... She knows shivaays she knows what he is in and out... just that she never imagined she would face this... Bhai isiliye nai roi kyuki shivaay was assaulting .. she cried because SHE COULDN'T BELIEVE "SHIVAAY" can do this... ye samjh jao to bass SSO or anika ko samjh jaoge...

If not.. there is no use arguing.. you are watching from an Angle where you will never know the essence of shivika and their relation coz they both are powerful people.. for them.. everything is and always will be extreme
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Anjum.



I'm sorry but I have to comment on this post, despite you asking people to stay away. I want to remind everyone here that if someone puts their hands on you when you do not want them to, that is assault and you have every right to defend yourself against them. No one has any right on your body but you. If someone grabs you, you can defend yourself and you can also press charges against that person.
What Shivaay did was a CRIME. Annika slapping Shivaay was also a CRIME. But one crime does not justify the other. And surely, a crime cannot be excused simply because it did not reach the level of rape.
That's all I'm gonna say here.



And I had specifically asked to stay away if you don't like my comment 😆 But that's okay so let's discuss what we gonna do with Shivaay for his CRIME..so should we put him behind the bars? Is that what you think we should do 😆 I am pretty sure everyone in this forum remembers what is assault and what is not 😆 This is a fictional show...so even if I agree with you on this, what exactly you and I can do to Shivaay? You can ask anyone in this forum even though I am a crazy fan of Shivaay, I have always gave him left right when needed to...so please don't think since he is my favorite, things will be different for him...I simply stated what my opinion is and I am not here to teach anyone anything and I am not among those who like to shove my ideas down anyone"s throat...I respect your opinion and I would expect same from you...there is no point of arguing when we are not getting paid to do so 😆 And I have learnt a lot about definition of CRIME from you today and thank you for that. I really hope I don't have to reply to you again in this post 😊
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: pritzz


Agreed whatever you say.. but that's what you think.. here we are not stating our POV's why can't you all understand that, we are pointing out SSO and Anikas Pov here...You tagged him as a criminal and The girl who has gone through all this TORTURE AND ABUSE as we can see.. she is not even able to throw the mangalsutra and rub out the sindoor from her maang... kyu? Bhai she had to wear those because she was threatened of her brother being killed.. if she was sure HE IS THE MONSTER you all are tagging him as.. the first thing after she reached home - throwing away the "Nishani of sso" away from her- that's the least she could do... now please don't say that she is bartiya naari and Uske liye ye sab maiyne rakhta hai... NO .. aaj agar wo pyscho se shaadi karti and pata chalta he is such a cheapo.. she would have destroyed every little part of her skin that he would have touched... She knows shivaays she knows what he is in and out... just that she never imagined she would face this... Bhai isiliye nai roi kyuki shivaay was assaulting .. she cried because SHE COULDN'T BELIEVE "SHIVAAY" can do this... ye samjh jao to bass SSO or anika ko samjh jaoge...

If not.. there is no use arguing.. you are watching from an Angle where you will never know the essence of shivika and their relation coz they both are powerful people.. for them.. everything is and always will be extreme


This isn't Annika vs Shivaay. If Annika takes no action against him and she clings to her fake Sindoor and Mangalsutra, then she is idiotic as well. That was my whole point.

Gul showing that all this is normal, that it is okay. Annika was supposed to be independent and nayi soch and not believe in love. Suddenly she can't let go of force wala shaadi and sindoor. Om is supposed to be righteous and stand for truth, even if his family is in the wrong. But he is supporting Prinku in the crime that they committed. This is character assassination.

Gul cannot decide on a path. But this is her creative baby and okay, she can do what she wants with it. All we are asking for is not showing us things which are clearly wrong and then justify them. That is all.

As for the Shivika essence, I think any relationship, be it Shivika or Rumya or Om-whoever should be based on mutual respect and love and trust. Not abuse. Even if it is verbal or mental or physical. That is all.
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Posted: 8 years ago
I call things like I see them. That's how I am. If someone violates another person, it's wrong no matter how desperate they are. This applies to both men and women, as it should.
I respect everyone's right to their opinion, and I don't make thing's personal. Not my style.
When people say "it's fiction", what they're implying is that fiction has no impact on our mentality, when it clearly does, hence the "at least he didn't go so far as raping" sentiment. I honestly cannot believe that anyone would say that. I've also seen a comment that "at least he threw her on a clean bedsheet". In what world does that make it okay to violate another human being?
Finally, I'm not one to shove my "opinion" down another person's throat. But when it comes to facts and giving people a reality check, I will when the alternative is to allow people to remain in their own bubble where abuse in a relationship is excusable as long as the people are in love. This only perpetuates the idea, and that is dangerous.
Seeing the discussion above, I'm genuinely worried that if one of you (God forbid) has abuse staring you in the face, you will misinterpret it as "passionate love".

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