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Originally posted by: -simirck-

Hello every1! I hav a question related to vishnuji.
Ram and Parshuram both are believed to be two of the avatars of dashavatar of vishnu. But they both appear at the same place at the same time. Aren't they the purna avatars of Vishnu? Then how is it possible? Plz answer this one for me. Thank u!

Hi, Simrick, welcome to Mythological Masti Forum.

I may not be able to give a complete answer to your question but here's what I know:


The list of Dasavataars varies - some include both Krishna and Balarama as avatars of Vishnu. As Krishna and Balarama, they both lived together for ages. Some versions include Mohini as one of the 10 avataars, some versions say its Buddha and some say its Balarama.

According to Valmiki Ramayan, all four brothers (Ram, Bharat, Lakshman and Shathrugan) together are avataars of Vishnu (Ram -1/2, Lakshman - 1/4, Bharat and Shathrugan -1/8 each - if I remember right). Also, there is a story that says Parashuram passed on His divine powers to Ram after their meeting. Parashuram is said to be blessed to live forever and He would be Kalki's guru when Vishnu takes his 10th avataar.

The word 'avataar' means 'descending from far away'. It may mean that the God Himself personally descends to the Earth (they all live high above). Some avataars like Vamana, Parashuram, Ram, Krishna, Buddha / Balaram (as in some versions) and Kalki (He will also be born in the future) were born with flesh and blood to human parents. It could mean that these avataars were really human but possessed the ability to understand, think and process as much information as a God could. They were special as they were born with the talent and skill to comprehend the ways of a God and hence were avataars. Thus one avataar can meet another avataar.

Sorry, if it sounds too vague or far-fetched. This is just my opinion. The real reason could be much different. 😊

Samana

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

Reshma

There actually was a thread where it was discussed - when the Mahavir Hanuman show ran on Colors, there was a thread on that, and starting from the last post on pg 1, they delved into this question. Here is that thread - I think all 5 pages of it were devoted to that question.

Doubts & Discussions about Hanuman Mythology

Thank u vrish ive explored all the pages.. and ive got ma answer and still believe that Hanuman belonged to a vanaar tribe👍🏼

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

Another thing - after Rama's rajyabhishek, did Hanuman settle down in Ayodhya, or return w/ Sugreev to Kishkindha? The serials - particularly ASR - show him as being in the company of Rama, but Valmiki's Ramayan says nothing about him being there until Rama's Ashwamedha Yagna, and after that, Rama's Mahaprayan yatra. So did Hanuman go on to serve Sugreev, and after him, Angad?

Hanuman did not live in Ayodhya after the coronation. He left with Sugreev and served him till Sugreev left the Earth along with Ram. After Ram left the Earth, I don't know if he served Angad or spent the rest of his time meditating in forests and caves till he met Bheema. Incidentally, does Valimiki Ramayan mention the war between Hanuman and Ram? Also, does anyone know when the Vaanar Reign come to an end? As far as I recall, there wasn't a Vaanar Kingdom when Krishna lived. I had assumed that Hanuman could have lived in Kishkinda till the Vaanar Reign existed and then left to live in the forests.

No, the Rama-Hanuman battle wasn't there in Valmiki, Kamban, Krittivas, Tulsidas, et al. It may have been there in the Ananda Ramayan, but I'm not sure.

@Vibhishna, thank u so much. Different texts give different avatars as dashavatar. I had even read once that buddha wasn't considered as one of the dashavatar and was added much later.
@Vrish, oh so his 6th avatar ended and the 7th began. That's interesting. Hadn't heard that one before. Thanks.

Simrick... Samana? I didn't know you had changed your username . . .

About the 6th and 7th Avataar of Vishnu, it was said that the entire Tretha Yuga would have one taraka mantra -- the name of Lord Vishnu's avataar. Both His 6th and 7th avataar was named Rama. I don't know the exact source for this but it was one of the stories I used to read randomly much earlier. It was like Shiva was explaining (to Parvati or some sages, I don't recall) that the entire Tretha Yuga will be saved by this one mantra / name- RAMA.

As for the question about Vibhishan sending gifts or wishes for Yudhishtra's Ashwamedha Yaga, all I've read about was how the brahmans who came to the yagya were treated and looked after. I don't remember any kings who visited or sent Yudhishtra when he started the yagya. I thought, the kings accept or deny the supremacy when the horse crosses their borders and not before that. It seems unlikely that any king will prematurely declare his defeat / loyalty before the horse is let loose.