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Originally posted by: Param-Sundari

Basically he trusts her not to cheat consciously.

But he also knows he's not her first choice and her emotional entanglement with ex he has witnessed first hand. So this was his insecurity taking centre stage.

This should have been explored before confession ideally.

Originally posted by: sheen97

Seems like gul will be using her classic trope haters to lovers and with the actors like SuMaan, I'm here for it. It will be fun to watch them having one up game. Both trying to defeat each other but can't ignore the feelings they have . This time we will get to see jealousy of both of them .

The angst, the intensity will be amazing to watch .

Omg yess !! That is literally what I am waiting for post leap. The angst, jealousy, sexual tension. Those moments in between. Everything is set for a good slowburn. Really hope the makers don't mess it up.

Originally posted by: lovereading14

Aryan was not the best of the lot, he is the best of the lot and is a great guy.

He is not salty, people are salty when they are annoyed/angry/irritated. Aryan is hurt. Because it was not today that he warned her for the first time. It has been time and again. Remember what he said in the car on the way to Malini's house? "Agar mein tumhe nahi leke jaata toh tum akeli chali jaati, aur tum akele ab kuch nahi karogi". Imlie has history of not listening to Aryan. Forget Aryan, anybody for that matter.

Remember when Aryan got shot? Narmada had lashed out ugly on Imlie. But the underlying message? Narmada had told them not to go. But Imlie was adamant, and because Imlie was ill aryan put his foot down and went in her stead. The point is Imlie did not listen then, Imlie did not listen now.

But what did Imlie not listening tell Aryan? Aryan feels like Imlie does not trust him. He told her he would save gudiya, she did not trust him to do that. She in her saviour complex makes plans, becomes Kairi, sneaks into Chaturvedi mansion and lies through it all. So much for 50-50 partnership eh?

Aryan has explained to her that they have to approach the gudiya problem the correct way. He has asked her to take care of herself and cheeku time and again. And she promised to prioritise herself and cheeku didn't she?

Galtiyaan sab se hoti hai. The miscarriage was NOT Imlie's fault. But Aryan's hurt stems from the fact that despite his warnings and his cautions Imlie's behaviour did not change. Her saviour complex drove her to the brink of death and cheeku to death.

Imlie is also hurt, Imlie also blamed Aryan. Didn't she? It is grief and the most natural way to deal with is playing the blame game which both of them are doing now.

Bringing AKT is insecurity, it is also a low blow with the sole purpose of hurting the other person. That in grief and trauma is a natural thing to do. That does not justify what he said. Of course not and that is where I find him wrong.

Aryan is still the man who did not flinch seeing AKT and Imlie in one room, the man who did not for one second question Imlie when he was presented with footage of Imlie and AKT secretly meeting at night. He trusts her, but he still feels that given a choice she will choose AKT. Over and over again.

We know that this is just Imlie being in over her head like she is most of the time. It is her saviour complex, her over the top mahaanta. She has alway prioritised others over herself. But Aryan never thought she would prioritise others over her own child. THAT is what has hurt him.

The only thing I don't get is why is Imlie blaming Aryan.

Originally posted by: handlerxsaviour

precisely. but it’s also quite interesting for this question to reappear at this point in their equation. this may be an unpopular opinion, but I’d really like for AKT (preferably someone else instead of Manasvi) to be reintroduced in the story post leap.

I want this too. AKT's shadow is still looming large over Arylie relationship. Imlie, while being free to choose, needs to choose Aryan once and for all. Now we know that she has chosen irrevocably and before Aryan sprung that blackmail wedding on her but Aryan needs to see that happen in realtime. Almost all of Imlie's desperation for Aryan demonstration has happened when the poor guy is lying unconscious somewhere.

Originally posted by: handlerxsaviour

you know, gusse mein bhi wahi nikalta hai jo already mann mein ho. clearly, what Malini said about Imlie being attached to Gudiya because of AKT stuck with him. the seed of doubt had already been planted and started to take form in his head from that day on, with/without him being conscious of it. which is why, I got the feeling that his bringing up of AKT had less to do with losing Cheeku in actuality, and more to do with his insecurity over Imlie’s feelings about AKT being reignited again. the problem though, is if this is true, the next question then would be whether Aryan ever truly trusted Imlie to be entirely over AKT. because no doubt can be planted in a mind that isn’t already somewhat conditioned and ready to accept it.

@bold: although Sundariji has already done a nice job in clarifying this one but I committed the same blunder in the morning for thinking this and someone beautifully answered for this, pasting their reply here:

I see all this in a different light. I think his claim about "I trust my wife" was about physical fidelity. Unlike AKT, Aryan never thought that Imlie could be unfaithful to her husband. Her marriage vows are sacrosanct to her. He never thought that Imlie would ever have an affair with AKT behind his back.

But in some corner of his heart, Aryan had thought that he was the second choice. He even mentioned that on their date night. "I know Imlie that I was not always your choice..." And that insecurity has reared its head again. I think he thinks Imlie still has an emotional attachment to AKT.

So what i got from their post: You are right the I trust my wife was for physical Fidelity which AKT accused her for. Now that I think abt it after having cooled down the impact of Aryan closing the door of AKT'S room hits well. I was mixing up 2 diff concepts of TRUST in a relationship here. Glad u cleared it for me❤❤

Originally posted by: handlerxsaviour

precisely. but it’s also quite interesting for this question to reappear at this point in their equation. this may be an unpopular opinion, but I’d really like for AKT (preferably someone else instead of Manasvi) to be reintroduced in the story post leap.

This is more popular opinion than you think 😂

Originally posted by: Bella250

The only thing I don't get is why is Imlie blaming Aryan.

Beats me too. But I think maybe because it is natural in grief to blame others, makes dealing with it easier.

Originally posted by: lovereading14

It is no secret that the makers will get him to apologise. He even should for bringing AKT into the conversation. But Imlie is no devi and definitely not in the right here. If we are comparing she should be tho one apologising!

Let everyone apologize to everyone. Everyone owes everyone an apology yeah ?! I never said Imlie shouldn't apologize. I said Aryan should.

@b: he should feel ashamed. Sorry is too short, too little.

Originally posted by: Param-Sundari

Basically he trusts her not to cheat consciously.

But he also knows he's not her first choice and her emotional entanglement with ex he has witnessed first hand. So this was his insecurity taking centre stage.

This should have been explored before confession ideally.

the confession and their love story was botched up completely that I am still perplexed by the CVs. that said, I think it is logical that the story goes this way and the memory ghost of aditya pops up. it needed to happen as this is a daily drama.

one of my relatives is a psychiatrist and she regularly counsels those who are considering second marriage after divorce. she once shared that when people do not address the issues in their first marriage and the role they played in it, those same issues will crop up again like a beast in the second marriage. at the same, there has to be way for the second marriage spouses to be able to address or talk about what happened in their previous relationship and the baggage they are bringing in order to move forward together. if they don't, there will be times when there is a comparison or some form the first marriage will appear like a ghost and cause problems. so both spouses need to be on the same page about what happened and talk about stuff. that is what happens in the real world.

so I have been waiting for the ball to drop for a long while and I am glad to see that we are finally seeing some semblance of reality and a genuine conflict between the two. without these kind of painful arguments, you cannot have true relationship growth.

Originally posted by: lovereading14

To add to that. Someone on this forum (I forgot who) made a very apt post about apne. It said agar Imlie ke liye sab hi itni asaani se 'apne' ho jaate hai and she is willing to go to any lengths for them. Phir apne hone ka faayda hi kya when everyone ranks the same?

That is the main prblem with Imlie. And while Aryans words might have been harsh, even wrong to a certain extent. Imlie's actions have been way worse. Over and over again.

Imlie aapne ke liye jaan chidkthi hai. It's not a competition ki kaun zyada kaun kam.

Yeah Imlie has been irrational. Many a times. But doesn't make Aryan a rational man. It's just that we tend to have tunnel vision sometimes.

I recall Aryan accusing Imlie of trying to sabotage his sister's wedding but don't recall people calling him out for that. Aryan ne bhi bohot kuch cheeze ki hai jo acceptable nahi hai.

You know why I love them ? They both are idiots. They are equally bad and two sides of the same coin. Both are perfect for each other.