SaAz:We Can Join The Pieces Together - Page 5

Originally posted by: ecrivain

Jyo nice post ...n ur right there is no point mentioning the negatives

But the prob is there no motivation to watch it n write posts 😭

Gosh I want the show to end already cos untill it ends I won't be able to move on 😭n it's too much torture 😭..sorry but I don't Lile anything much ...

It' seems the cvs too are dishing out crap n wanna get over it

All of a sudden Zeenat decides she wants to b a widow...ARZOO is in hwe own world ..sahir has not got over the deal..Alvira has money n is tangled between Anam n zaki ...umm I think I shud stop

Was happy to be on this forum n make good Friends 😳

Shivya is roped in for a SP show ..maybe it's the same PH .lcos they have two shows with star now 😲

Originally posted by: jyoti06

If he fails in his promise ,then loosing to Zeenat will further haunt him as Zeenat will further taunt regarding his loss .. so this way he can never let go off his past na .. he needs to win this promise to let go off his past ...

Also the mistakes that he had comitted , he rectified it too .. Lucknow workers r nomore struggling .. they r happy that they got their land and factory back again .. so its not like he wins the promise at the cost of ruining lives .. and thats why he needs to win because he rectified his past mistakes and now noone is suffering because of him ..

Also I dont remember any other heinous deeds he comitted apart from Lucknow factory fiasco which he already rectified ... heinous deed is something where someone suffers at the cost of other person's pleasure .. Here I dont see anyone suffering 🤔 .,. Yes he forcibly married Aarzoo with manipulations but today she is happy in that same marriage and not really suffering ,isn't it .. Yes he changed those DNA reports of Zaki to stop that marriage but this actually resulted in blessing in disguise for both or else they would hv been stuck in loveless marriage for life , isn't it .. And Zaki is not even married to Sam ., he is enjoying his life as usual ... So whatever he did , as a result of that noone is suffering today ... And thats why I feel he should win this promise and not let the Evil (Zeenat) win ..

Originally posted by: allforlove

Very lovely post. Though I like each and every post of yours, I do not get the time to comment on all but wanted to for this one especially! I am so glad that you said there is really no point in finding faults now. The forum is so much critical now (not that it was not like that before 😆) but when the show was on, the debates and discussions mattered but now it has only seven days and they cannot do a miracle overnight. It was never great on logic to begin with and then they opened too many tracks and now they are closing at an alarmingly short notice (don't think they had more than five or six episodes to do that when they were told), so we cannot expect everything to be perfectly satisfactory now, of all times! It is actually all over the place and some things (if not most) will remain unsatisfactory even in the end I am sure. There is absolutely no point in hair splitting 😔 at this stage.

I had the same views ,. even if we try to tell them what needs to b done , no use as they might hv been a real hurry to finish the incomplete loops first without giving importance to the detailing bit .. And yeah from beginning itself , there were logical issues , its nothing new , I wrote in my other post too that our show was never a classic to begin with that we overnight expect brilliance in direction and writing dept ...as long as she touch on all the unfinished track and give them proper conclusion like they gave to Lucknow factory , it should b ok ..

I am just glad they are giving some good scenes to SaAz (however illogical they might be) and showing progress in their relationship and I am just watching for that. We won't get to see Sahir and Arzoo ever again nor will Hashad or Shivya come together (generally doesn't happen right?) 😭 - so I do not want to waste my energy cribbing about the logic or the story anymore - have done enough so long 🤢 It is not what I (or anybody else) expected to be sure, but what can we do now about that?? I just hope they close the very important loops (deal, promise, Zeenat, the present murder attempts) satisfactorily and the less important ones at least to the best extent they can - and I think they are trying. I don't have high expectations at all from the show now. Some good SaAz moments, some excellent scenes from Harshad (a breakdown and an apology to Arzoo, final confession that is pending, and also a stronger and more open acceptance of his love and need of her ) and their coming together finally nicely at the end is all that I am looking forward to. Literally keeping my brains out while watching 🤣

Exactly my thoughts .. no use crying over spilled milk now .. just take it whatever is given because we r not gonna see these briliant actors together again as TV world harldy repeats any jodi 😭 ... So me too trying to enjoy these SaAz moments keeping aside all the logical issues ... I hv stopped using my brains long back when this spooky track started 😆 , so dont want bring my brains back right now either 😆😆

The second reason I wanted to comment on this post is the way you have explained Sahir's reaction here:

For Sahir his actions always speak louder than words .. He dint waste time showing fake concern with an apology for the Lucknow factory because he knew that his one apology cannot undo his act .. Instead he silently decided to re-build the factory , a decision I feel he might hv taken months back already ; Siimlarly today too when he sees the broken coffee mug , he does not waste time showing his fears which might scare Aarzoo further , instead he brings the feviquick and joins it back with her help , thus indicating to her that he has learnt to b positive and optimistic in life from her only 😳 ...

Sahir might come out looking wrong to many because he does not try to justify or defend his actions much nor does he try to show fake regret in front of his wife just to please her ; Instead he gives his answers with his actions .. If he commits a mistake , he knows how to rectify it .. If he does somrthing good , he knows how to not take unwanted credit for it ...This is what sets him apart from the rest and we ourselves in this forum might b divided on whether Sahir is right or wrong .. This proves why Aarzoo today called him a puzzle

I do not think I have to explain this any more because you have done it perfectly already - and I am totally with you on this! He is not like any other character and he has to be understood too unlike any other. He has never been an 'ideal' hero and they have never tried to make him a role model for anybody - this was a story about flawed people who learn and grow with love and make themselves better. So, the only thing I am happy about the show is that they kept Sahir's characterization mostly intact until the end - he is the reason I watched the show and he is still there - so I am not going to keep complaining any more 😊

Exactly .. Sahir never really tried to b a role model to anyone or lecture them about good or bad because he himself knows that he is neither fully good nor fully bad ... he never claimed he is some Purshotam Ram or anything ... he is a flawed human who had his selfish traits if he wants to achieve anything but after falling in love with Aarzoo , he realised the difference between good and bad .. this is where I always say Aarzoo is his true love because only true love can inspire u to give up on your bad deeds 😳

So, finally, this is not quite the great show that I expected it to be but it is not one that I would quit too - am simply enjoying SaAz and will do so until the end

Exactly .. its still much better than many of the high trp shows 😳

Will miss reading your posts too - do you also write for other forums?? Do let me know - can at least read 😊

right now I m only writing here .. dont get much time .. but mayb after this ends , I m planning to write for itna karo na mujhe pyaar .. though I m not too sure about it .. lets see

Originally posted by: redviolet

She was shown to be happy for a few day but really in a modern society no woman would have been happy being in a polygamous marriage just after a few days. What they showed was not realistic perhaps it was the absence of time but they completely ignored the polgamy issue or used it in the wrong way. They actually used it to make Arzoo insecure when it should have made her further furious at Saahir for giving her this status.

Another thing, was the egg allergy thing was very heinous and he did it for the business deal. He treated someone's life cheaper than bussiness deal. This is heinous for sure. Taking a bullet does not redeem him completey for this act because I am pretty sure he would have done it any way if he didnt need the redeeming.

Arzoo and Zaki were both adults. They could make their own decisions. If they had made it was their chose and their lives to sacrifice. And once again he did it to con Arzoo into marrying him later forced her. This was all again for the bussiness deal.

Zeenat might further taunt him but he needs to stop caring about what Zeenat thinks. Why does it matter so much to him? If she is a woman of his past let her think what she wants. Plenty of people taunt us do we take it to heart that we start doing ridiculous things? I still believe he is fullfilling for all the wrong reasons. If there was better reason than I might have given it the nodd. Another thing why is he allowed to hold on to grudges for heart break? And he expects other to forgive him for the same?

Originally posted by: redviolet

She was shown to be happy for a few day but really in a modern society no woman would have been happy being in a polygamous marriage just after a few days. What they showed was not realistic perhaps it was the absence of time but they completely ignored the polgamy issue or used it in the wrong way. They actually used it to make Arzoo insecure when it should have made her further furious at Saahir for giving her this status.

I disagree here for two reasons ..

First we really dont hv much idea of this polygamy especially in Muslim Culture I feel because I can give u real life examples of a man staying with his two wives in a happy marriage for yrs .. one big example is Salim khan who is father of Salman khan .. he stays with both his wives for more than 25 yrs now happily under same roof without any issues .. both wives even appear together during festivals ... In this case toh Sahir does not even loves his first wife anymore but in real world , hving two wives in a Muslim community is common and many live happily too ..

Second I m just talking of what I see in a fiction and not judge it based on reality because this is fiction and not real .. if I want to compare these situations with reality , I will rather watch crime petrol over Humsafar na 😆 .. so in the show I see Aarzoo happy with Sahir which matters to me than anything else

Another thing, was the egg allergy thing was very heinous and he did it for the business deal. He treated someone's life cheaper than bussiness deal. This is heinous for sure. Taking a bullet does not redeem him completey for this act because I am pretty sure he would have done it any way if he didnt need the redeeming.

And he told this to Aarzoo .. right / .. she knows it ... its not like she is kept in dark about it ... even after that Aarzoo is happy today with the same man ,.. if the victim herself has no issues and understands him , who r we to judge here ... even in real life , its the victim who should hv the main say while deciding the punishment for a culprit ... And I do believe taking a bullet is redeeming simply because during egg fiasco , Sahir was there to save her , he had the injection in advance with him but when he took the bullet , was he sure Aarzoo can take him to hospital on time , there was no guarantee of his life at all .. right ?

Arzoo and Zaki were both adults. They could make their own decisions. If they had made it was their chose and their lives to sacrifice. And once again he did it to con Arzoo into marrying him later forced her. This was all again for the bussiness deal.

Again u r bringing the past issues here forgetting that Aarzoo herself today thanks her destiny for getting married to Sahir .. not once she regrets not marrying Zaki .. right ... Yes Aarzoo is an adult and this is where I m saying if she is happy , then who r we to judge her happiness here ..

Zeenat might further taunt him but he needs to stop caring about what Zeenat thinks. Why does it matter so much to him? If she is a woman of his past let her think what she wants. Plenty of people taunt us do we take it to heart that we start doing ridiculous things? I still believe he is fullfilling for all the wrong reasons. If there was better reason than I might have given it the nodd. Another thing why is he allowed to hold on to grudges for heart break? And he expects other to forgive him for the same?

It does matter .. why not ? He married her , stayed with her for 3 long yrs and suddenly finds out she thinks of him as a looser and was cheating on him for years ... this is terrible for any man .. there is a difference betwen plenty of outsiders taunting us and our own lifepartner or parents taunting us ...

plus he never forced Aarzoo to forgive him for Lucknow factory case .. did he ? .. if he expected her to fogive him then he would hv told her about re-building factory bit too but he dint .. it was Aarzoo's choice to forgive and forget ..

Originally posted by: tamsham

Are you talking about SAC? I think you seem to be seeing a different Sahir than all of us.. The best & most unique aspect of Sahir is that he doesn't expect anything from anyone.. and definitely not forgiveness.. Didn't you hear what he said to Aarzoo in the day before episode that this is the man I am.. flawed, wrong or whatever but I am just that.. a man & not God.. He doesn't expect forgiveness for anything.. For me HS is a show that dared to show a real character.. When they pitched this story as a perfect love story of Two imperfect people then this is exactly what they delivered.. Sahir & Aarzoo both are imperfect, flawed but so real.. No wonder people could not get this show.. Heck the show even divided the fandom.. Look how you expressed your displeasure with Sahir.. No wonder it didn't get TRP because we don't get real people.. We want either white or black.. We never get any other colour.. Esp Grey. And HS dared to do this which is why I love it. It will never be a 1000 episode show but it will be remembered as a cult classic. Hats off to 4 Lions & the writer. Wish the channel had the conviction to push it.. It would have been a pathbreaking love story. For me it still is.

Originally posted by: Soaps1

Lovely post

Its' for the specific reasons you have mentioned in the post Sahir for me will remain the strongest char in the show ... he was from day one a man of action and not words ... right, wrong, good, bad, evil ... he always believed in doing rather than lecturing or talking big! He has so many shades to him, an aura of mystery that just makes the character charming ... and despite of his hard exterior he has been a loving and caring person always, holding those who he cared for above himself, be it his selfish, good for nothing family or arzoo and her family! Speaks a lot about strength of character

I agree that CVs did manage to show lots of shades in his character from being mean and selfish to wicked to good to loyal ... the transformation of this character from first episode till today has been amazing .. also I do see his consistent character growth too .. who wolud hv thought 50 episodes back that one SAC will compliment a girl calling her cute and all ... things hv changed in his life and today he is responding to the beauty around him , thus feeling happy and relaxed ... the bitterness has slowly gone away from his life .. he no more eats burnt toast but relishes ice creams .. this is the growth that I loved in SAC 👏👏

I want Sahir to get the deal, I want zeenat to know what all she lost, not just monetarily but in terms of a gem that is Sahir

Yeah he needs to win this promise to set himself free from his past .. its not just to prove Zeenat wrong but its for his own self satisfaction too

But i really can't understand Alvira turning positive suddenly, it makes my head go round as a viewer and i feel cheated

I believe they had plans with Alvira but no time now , so just make her positive 😕

As for arzoo I do understand her dilemma, more so because Sahir is not someone who would boast about things not even in front of her or would present an image of himself that would please her ... so her confusion made sense ... though by now i do expect as a viewer she would understand him a bit better because she has seen a lot more of Sahir compared to what she had known of him at the time of marriage, may be she will eventually?

I think this depends on perspective .. if we seeing it from Sahir's POV , we expect her to understand him better by now but if we r seeing it from Aarzoo's POV , then one will expect Sahir not to hide anything from his wife now that they hv come so close and he too knows about her emotions attached to this factory .. its a two way street here .. both needs to hv same understanding of each other ,,,

And arzoo is such a drameybaaz, she is the one who decided to sleep in the office and in the morning was telling him may be you don't care but i do so lets go back 😆

no wonder he was like u r cute when u do this 😆

As for lack of logic in the show I am sorry but I can't help but say if there was not this much of illogical stuff the show won't be ending ... writers specially in last 2 months took viewers intellect for a wild ride and it cost them and us the show ... a beautiful story, well sketched char all ending because they did not bother to be a little logical mostly ... but any ways what's done is done!

But illogical stuffs only run for ages .. look at a show like sasural simar ka showing ichhadhari nagin or look at sony's 9pm showo only showing a ghost .. those do get trps .. so I dont think lack of logic is cause of low trps ... main reason was their time slot change where HS lost its loyal viewership of 10.30 .. at 10.30 it was doing good with 1.1 TVM despite all the illogical stuffs ..

Originally posted by: skanda12

@Jyoti:

I wanted to remind you of the way we both used to laugh that when the end of a serial is near even the kulgurus in the story will get shorter and shorter costumes as the production house tries to save money!😆😆😆😆😆

I guess its the story of all shows aaj kal 😆 .. yes I do remember it 😉😆

I fear to say this Humsafars is nearly in the same position! I have completely lost the story of why the lucknow factory was burnt, what the deal was in which Anam is curiously involved tangentially, and what the hell was that dialogue between the policeman and Anam, which was all over the place!

Factory was burnt to sold it in 100 crore I guess with which he can do the deal with this Australia company .. basically he needs 100 cr fund for this deal .. but now he dunno from where to get 100 cr because factory is no more with him ... But dunno how is Anam involved in the mystry 😕

Jyoti, I suspect a hasty patchwork is being done by the Creatives to finish the story in the next seven episodes!

Agreee

The only part that was lovely was the way these two sweethearts glued the mud pot together!

yeah their bonding is shown well ..

Meanwhile another bit that is killing me out of curiosity is whether this Kurti too doesn't know Zeenat is not in coma (looks like she doesn't know!) and what this Alvira is up to! Meanwhile in timely fashion Arzoo's mother is telephoning about the beautiful compensations Sahir is doing for having ruined their lives, so at least that is one end tied!

I agree , Aarzoo's mother did one good thing at least 😆 ... Kurti apa I dont think knows it ... coming to Alvira , I feel CVs initially had plans to make her negative but with no time left , they r trying to keep her positive only and so now she is becoming guaranter for the 100 crore loan that Sahir is taking

Meanwhile, if I see that cop's face again I may puke. Who is writing his dialogues ... it is sheer crap going round and round in circles just to make the audienecs feel at the edge of their seats as the shows is nearing its end? I think instead of this mystery they should just show Zeenat falling into the pool and dying, and the cop and Anam eloping and remaining 7 episodes just Sahir and Arzoo consummating!😆😆😆😆😆😆

That will b best end for sure 😆😆😆 .. but Zeenat cannot die unless he tells her side of the story or else our atma wont b shant either 😆

Otherwise my atma will not be in shanti!

Originally posted by: farzy2910

Great analysis Jyoti an thanks for the amazing collages Shweta 👏

I am glad that you ignoring all the negative aspects of the episode

I loved the Saaz scenes, they have been very cute lately

Anam's honesty is awesome. She says it like it is

I would love to see where the story goes from here. What made Zeenat chose the part that she is on currently?

I hope they manage to close all the loopholes by next week