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Posted: 10 years ago
#51
So are we back discussing his first wife and morality yet again 😕😕 If we discuss it then the show was dead for many of us. How much dark story we as a viewer are ready to tolerate is a bigger question here?

Looks like we need to revisit what is the definition of friendship, parenting and spouse

Friday was a disaster. It reminded me of the episode where car parked downhill went back. Technicals need to pull up their socks as leads acting can only go so far. Creepy Sahir is yet tolerable but Mom like Nausheen🤢 no words.

Sush have a safe trip. Just dropped in to wish you.

Shweta as always your collages are beautiful.
Edited by BHAVII - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: -Sush-


Hi Jay...I think one thing we can count on Gul for...is not to rush emotions...I think she will do justice to any recovery...if they go down that path...

I am finally with you about revelation of the past...that one clip of Zeenat saying that he is an artist not a businessman...doesn't indicate much....

In Rebecca, the past came out much later...but the wife was dead already...In most other cases...without revealing the past...it seems unfair to assume that the marriage had virtually ended between the two...and that she had abandoned him and the relationship...

Calling some one an artist and not a businessman...is that really an insult? Some people would take that as a compliment...😃

I am not familiar with maker's past work so no idea how good it'll be !
Well we at least agree on one thing in each post it seems 😆
I am not saying they should reveal entire past in one episode, no I am fine by siply revealing little bit more abt whole Zeenat issue. It doesn't even has to be in front of Aarzoo, have Sahir recollect some memories so we can start understanding this guy little bit better !

As far as the clip they have shown, well to me it seems like normal interaction between hubby-wife. I see no insult or any other emotion there to be frank !!

I simply wish after so much build up and intensity it won't be big fail and also abt time at least little bit more is shown !
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Posted: 10 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: BHAVII

So are we back discussing his first wife and morality yet again 😕😕 If we discuss it then the show was dead for many of us. How much dark story we as a viewer are ready to tolerate is a bigger question here?


Looks like we need to revisit what is the definition of friendship, parenting and spouse

Friday was a disaster. It reminded me of the episode where car parked downhill went back. Technicals need to pull up their socks as leads acting can only go so far. Creepy Sahir is yet tolerable but Mom like Nausheen🤢 no words.

Sush have a safe trip. Just dropped in to wish you.

Shweta as always your collages are beautiful.

When did you guys had morality discussion as you know I'll be able to put a spin on it 😆
Yes first please define all you listed by societal terms and few even as legal !!

In that scene you know my problem with creepy Sahir 😆 and mother - god do they even know what it is in this show properly ? 😕
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Posted: 10 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: -Sush-


Sush,

We all fall into the same trap...it is difficult not to..😳
I got over my initial shock of a very much alive, comatose wife...but even now I feel they should have made her dead...but the larger picture has to be seen...

One of the reasons I'd attribute to the low trp would be this immorality issue..the other stronger one being chakor...😉😆

It is just the way RR died for me when Paro catapulted into eye locks and dhak dhaks too soon after she became a widow...could never connect with the story after that..so I can imagine what HS must be to people who cannot relate...

Couldn't help commenting on this..😳


Calling some one an artist and not a businessman...is that really an insult? Some people would take that as a compliment...


But it is not just one dialogue...the first thing that strikes me is what made such a jovial young man into the shark he is now...what sucked the life out of him and made him so dark...

Another fantastic scene was where Sahir looks into Zeenat's lifeless eyes and tells her vehemently that she has to live...

More than the immorality, what is shocking for me is the thirst for revenge...
If I hate someone and they were on their deathbed, I would let go of the grudges...I think any normal person would do that...Being comatose is a worse fate..I would only feel sympathy for them...or at least be neutral..to harbour hatred in such a situation...it is very unhealthy...and scary...it is like... nothing moves this guy any more...he is not even HUMAN!

😲😆

I said this elsewhere...the point is not what she did to him...every man doesn't react to betrayal the way Sahir does...people learn to let go..avoid the person...

SAhir is wired in such a way that the same situations affect him a hundred fold more than it would a normal person..
Be it love...or hatred..or self loathing...he is super sensitive...also explains the self mutiliation scenes...and the danger he put Arzoo through...especially the egg allergy...for a while, he thought she was dead...even that didn't stop him from going on...

Brings back the same Q...What heroic qualities are there in this hero?🤔
Is he in need of psychiatric help...most definitely, yes...😕

😆

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Posted: 10 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: chicksoup



I was discussing this show with someone else as I cannot seem to understand why he is so enslaved to the promise he made to her. His past might have been bitter? The first thing the other person said was exactly this. She has been in a coma for 7 years. It says some where she is 29 now so she missed out on most of her youth one the most beautiful parts of life. She has been made to suffer more then enough for whatever she might have done to him. Any one's heart would melt after seeing someoen in such a state. But Saahir is different. He still feels her words more than her current condition? How evil could she have been? You post are always bang on.

Edited by redviolet - 10 years ago

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Posted: 10 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: redviolet


Thanks, Red...

Actually, I ended that thought abruptly...

This, I find is apt for Sahir.

"The loss of innocence is inevitable, but the death of innocence disturbs the natural order. The death of innocence causes an imbalance and initiates an internal war that manifests differently in each individual, but almost always includes anger, withdrawal and severe depression."
B.G. Bowers, Death and Life

It must have been a huge blow for him...because his trust was childlike, until she shattered it.
It is the difference between gradual loss and sudden death of innocence...

Most of us lose it in bits and pieces..he held on trusting...until the glass tower he lived in came crashing down...that makes his loss bigger than any of ours...

...How appropriately the Baba had counseled Arzoo...like she was an angel being sent to retrieve a lost child...😳

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Posted: 10 years ago
#57
Hi Sush and everyone here - a Very Happy New Year!
Amazing collages Shweta!
Now coming to the show, I took a break because the self mutilating thing was one of the things i am not liking! Watched wed-fri episodes in one go on Sunday. I didn't like a lot of things and felt a huge disconnect with a lot of scenes. Some were so misplaced. Was the music suppose to be that eerie when Sahir is talking to Arzoo on the bed? I am not expert on this but the camera angle made Sahir look weird in that scene, almost like an obsessive lover. Why was Zaki on the bed and not on a chair taking care of Arzoo. That whole scene could have been beautifully done but that did not come across good from any angle!😕
However, I do like Zaki and Zara pairing as well. Hope they develop this further!
I am patiently waiting for things to unfold but I will soon run of patience with the show if they don't buckle up. The story is not connecting with me. I have a list of things they still need to focus on - past, zeenat, his first marriage, Alvira's motive, Alvira's other son - Anam's husband, KA's connection, etc etc to name a few!
@ Sush - Enjoy Europe, if your on my side of the pond (in London), have sent you a PM.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#58
Hi guys...
Please do not look for a Sushpective...I am taking a break...
Love
Sush
Edited by -Sush- - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: -Sush-

Hi guys...

Please do not look for a Sushpective...I am taking a break...
Love
Sush


Have a good trip Sush.. Enjoy 😃

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