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TBDRESS

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Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#201

BTW if banner 23 and 24 are basically the same, isin't that considered cheating??? How can they still be eligible for voting?

Before someone accuses me of calling someone a cheater, this question is purely directed towards the mod's. I would just like a clarification here.

Edited by Walden - 12 years ago

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Saumya

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Posted: 12 years ago

#202

Originally posted by: Walden
BTW if banner 23 and 24 are basically the same, isin't that considered cheating??? How can they still be eligible for voting?
Before someone accuses me of calling someone a cheater, this question is purely directed towards the mod's. I would just like a clarification here.

I don't quote get you there. How is that cheating? Its possibly by the sane person. Multiple entries were allowed.

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TBDRESS

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Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#203

Originally posted by: _saumya_
I don't quote get you there. How is that cheating? Its possibly by the sane person. Multiple entries were allowed.

So during yesterday's discussion Sano said this: "Cheating doesn't mean when only Mids can vote for some specific banners, it's also considered cheating when members vote for the exact same banners without making any change which makes you think how's this possible?"

So it seems like they have a broad definition for what constitutes cheating. I'd say including 2 banners in the contest which are exactly the same (except for some minor changes) should be considered cheating (this is my opinion). Especially because mutliple voting is allowed. You're a mathematician...wouldn't you agree that these 2 banners have been included just to increase the probabllity of this banner winning?

So the point is, if the mods are willing to defer these kinds of actions (which in my mind also are meant to game the system), why are they so concerend with group voting?

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Saumya

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Posted: 12 years ago

#204

Oh yes! I thought you were referring to multiple entry submission by the same user.
You very well know when to rub my professional side. 🤣 even though its least related to pure maths.
This is optimisation theory.

But yes, even a naive person can conclude that much.

That's actually a very good point.

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Heema22

@Heema22

Sparkler

Posted: 12 years ago

#205

I just went though the whole thread! I hope moderators take some action to give justice to people who are fighting for it!

Everyone is going and talking in circle! Point is very clearly made by TM and many other supporters.points are very clear that voting and election process was not fair and authority was not fairly used .So why people are having so much problem with it. Why cannot people understand the problem and help of the TM to get fair voting on the forum? That all she is aking for and I am in full support of her!!!! I think we need answers from higher authority by now and not later.

I am quite disturbed to read some of the accusations. "Sour grapes? " " You are fighting because your friends did not win? " " you cannot ask this question because you did not vote? Insulting great Author like Henry David Thoerau? ( BTW who ever insulted him problely never read his book . Because he changes your opinion about injustice ,makes you think fairly . It helped me in my life ) How absurd!!

I voted. I had no idea , who made these banner nor I asked around to find out to influence me for voting! I thought every one made great banners. Some of then were out standing and did not make second round!! I think everyone of them had put in great efforts and invested energy in the show . Because of 24 people were involved and many voted for 5 choices second round should have been public voting. This is vey simple!!

Some of the remark I read , I find them very insulting !!

some one who did not vote cannot have opinion about injustice for fair voting?

TM , who has great valid points and spend so much energy fighting for justice and She is accused of many nasty thing ?

Why during second voting every one is voting for banner on 1 ? I personally think 3 and 4 is perfect !!

PLESE every one remember this prayer ?" Dusaron ki Jay me pahele Khud ki jay Kare" This might help you see the point that TM is trying to make so we will have fair voting system!!

Appu . You have my support and great respect for fight for great cause. I think this will help other forums too. I hope they come and read it !!

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TBDRESS

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Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#206

Originally posted by: Sano88
Well, i'm sorry to say but if you wanted us to go with all the votes which were there in the frst voting round, then that would have been called cheating. Clearly the voting round had many same votes by many people which forced us to keep BC voting round in DT section. if we'll keep the voting round again in this section (for the 28) banners, it's obvious that cheating will take place. Actually, it's not about the system, it's may be you're not happy that one of your favourite banner didn't made to the second round. You can go to the gms for the moderator taking part in the BC but it will not help as it's allowed.

I'm sorry Sano but I am having a difficult time understanding this logic:

If we keep all 28 banners up for a 2nd vote...cheating will happen

But if we keep only 4 banners up for a 2nd vote...cheating will not happen

How do you come up with this conclusion?? How is cheating related to the number of banners?? I really don't follow!

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TBDRESS

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Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#207

Originally posted by: _saumya_
Oh yes! I thought you were referring to multiple entry submission by the same user.
You very well know when to rub my professional side. 🤣 even though its least related to pure maths.
This is optimisation theory.

But yes, even a naive person can conclude that much.

That's actually a very good point.

Serioulsy I'm very confused

Like you said, including multiple submissions that are all basically the same is an obvious form of cheating to me (i.e trying to manipulate the system in your favor!), but mods have no problem with this!

But they are concerned with "group voting" which they can't even prove other that saying that people were voting for the same banner (keep in mind I didn't even vote- so have nothing to prove or defend)

Jo cheating saaf saamne hai (in my opinion), we are willing to ignore??